What ever happened with GA State Rep Grindley E-Mail

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In early July, a thread was started regarding an e-mail from GA State Rep Grindley, anything ever come of it? E-mail described 3 weeks of outages.


-- MarktheFart (quke@ix.netcom.com), August 03, 1999


Original post which refers to Rep. Grindley:

3 weeks of power outages?

-- Sylvia (kklewin@cycom.net), August 04, 1999.

Posts regarding Grindley comments:

E-Mail from GA State Rep. George Grindley Refers to Three Weeks of Power Outages

Rep. Grindley letter Challenged

Grindley Email Confirmed to My Satisfaction

Rep. Grindley's response


Additional posts which refer to Rep. Grindley's comments:

Stupid Reporters Take On Koskinen Forum

Utilities Say They're Y2K Ready, Though Blackouts Expected

-- Sylvia (kklewin@cycom.net), August 04, 1999.

Well, I tried the link thing. Let me work on this.

-- Sylvia (kklewin@cycom.net), August 04, 1999.

[I would love it if someone would critique my HTML.]

Non-technical version:

E-Mail from GA State Rep. George Grindley Refers to Three Weeks of Power Outages http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0013Mm

Rep. Grindley letter Challenged http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0014NE

Grindley Email Confirmed to My Satisfaction http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0013c3

Rep. Grindley's response http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0014aG


Additional posts which refer to Rep. Grindley's comments:

Stupid Reporters Take On Koskinen Forum http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0011JW

Utilities Say They're Y2K Ready, Though Blackouts Expected http://greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0011fE


Georgia House of Representatives, George Grindley, Jr. http://www2.state.ga.us/Legis/1997_98/house/gash035.htm


-- Sylvia (kklewin@cycom.net), August 04, 1999.

Last but not least, here is the letter which I sent to David Sunfellow, after I was supposedly "debunked". (This is the first time I'm putting this on the Yourdon forum.)


Letter to David Sunfellow
(published comments by Steve Davis of Coalition 2000)

David Sunfellow
Founder & Publisher
NewHeavenNewEarth (NHNE)

eMail: nhne@nhne.com
Web: http://www.nhne.com/

July 11, 1999

Dear Mr. Sunfellow,

I hope that you will follow up on this story. Rep. Grindley was extremely nice, and sincere during our conversation. I feel sure that he would readily consent to speak with you, or respond to a written inquiry. Several others who were involved in the Yourdon discussion group have succeeded in reaching him quite easily. In the past few days, he has confirmed the content of the letter with only a minor correction, as to who actually made the statement regarding three weeks of power outage.

I think it is interesting to note that although Rep. Grindley is now stating that John Koskinen did not personally make that statement, he confirms that it is nonetheless correct.

Who did make that statement? Was that person speaking on behalf of Mr. Koskinen?

We know from the Clinton scandal that words, statements, and intent, must be carefully interpreted.

Rep. Grindley is the Chairman of the Y2K Taskforce in Georgia. If he tells me that his state is required to prepare for three weeks of power outage, that is the significant concept.

He most definitely told me that it's likely that the national power grid will be pre-emptively "isolated" to prevent complete collapse. As someone from the Yourdon discussion group noted, this in itself could be the reason for the three weeks of power outage to some areas, especially areas which buy their power from other generating areas. Here is the quote from the discussion group:


You know, I have to wonder if this 'three weeks' isn't what they are PLANNING TO MAKE HAPPEN around the end of the year.

Think about it, if they have to break up the grid to prevent a total collapse then it will take at least a few days to break it up, a week or so to see which systems are failing, and another week or two to put back together whatever is still working. Sounds like three weeks (at the inside) is inevitable to me...


-- TECH32 (TECH32@NOMAIL.COM), July 07, 1999.



As I have noted, Rep. Grindley made many statements to me, which he did not include in his letter, some of which I have still not made public. I took careful notes during our conversation, and I perfectly recall that he said he has a three month supply of food and water, because at that moment my heart stopped.

I understand the sensitive nature of this issue, and the significance to our economy. However, I have come to the personal belief that more disclosure is necessary.

Unlike you, I live in an area where the temperature in January is usually below zero. It is sometimes difficult to keep our home warm, even with our furnace running nearly constantly. This may explain to you why I decided to make my letter available to others, because I see this as a life and death situation about which the majority is oblivious.

I don't wish to sleep in a school gym shelter with one thousand other people, leaving my two cats to literally freeze in our house. I'm sure a lot of other people would appreciate the knowlege that preparation is necessary. Three weeks without power is a long, long time. It has been well established that government agencies and private corporations are preparing for worst case scenarios.

I sincerely hope that you will contact Representative Grindley. I perceived that he is compassionate and honest, and is attempting to do his part to encourage preparation. In your position, you are a perfect conduit of this knowledge, to reach people somehow without unduly frightening them.

Yours Truly,

Sylvia Klewin

(I hope that you will make my response available to those who may now doubt Rep. Grindley's authenticity, or mine.)

-- Sylvia (kklewin@cycom.net), August 04, 1999.

Let's try again.

3 weeks of power outages?

-- Sylvia (kklewin@cycom.net), August 04, 1999.

Three weeks of power outages?

E-Mail from GA State Rep. Refers To Three Weeks of Power Outages

Rep. Grindley Letter Challenged

Grindley E-Mail Confirmed to My Satisfaction

Rep. Grindley's Response

-- Sylvia (kklewin@cycom.net), August 04, 1999.


I think the problem arose from trying to copy things over from word processing.

(This issue may have been beaten to death, but I didn't like being called a debunked urban myth.)

-- Sylvia (kklewin@cycom.net), August 04, 1999.

This is from the website of a Y2K author who contacted me.

Georgia Representative says Federal Government Deliberately Misrepresenting Y2K Status of Power Grid

-- Sylvia (kklewin@cycom.net), August 04, 1999.

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