IRS is Toast? : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread

Per the request of Ray, I am reposting this as a new thread.

With regard to the IRS

I am a CPA by trade, and work as a controller at a mid-sized construction company, in addition to this. Earlier this year, one of our companies had a 940(federal unemployment) overpayment. The IRS sent their usual letter....apply or refund. I called the IRS and asked to have the overpayment applied to 1999 form 940. The IRS representative came back on the phone after a 10 minute absence, telling me thatthe overpayment HAD to be refunded, as they can't post any payments to tax forms with DUE DATES after 1/1/00. Accordingly, I assume that this is the case for all areas of tax....1120, 1040, etcand this being the case, the IRS cannot apply ANY estimated tax payments to any form DUE after 12/31/99.

Got pens and paper?

Southside ED

-- Southside Ed (still@home.fornow), July 29, 1999


Southside Ed, many thanks for starting this thread. Hopefully we can get confirmation from other folks that have had a similar experience.


-- Ray (, July 29, 1999.

If this is true this is good news indeed!

***Where are we going and why are we in this handbasket?****

-- LM (, July 29, 1999.

Not long ago I was told by a 20-year veteran IRS employee that the IRS hasn't a prayer of getting its sprawling computer systems Y2K compliant. Not the vaguest chance.

-- cody varian (, July 29, 1999.

Why do they need D.C. hotel rooms for a period of 1-2 years?

-- e (, July 30, 1999.

My financial strategy at the moment is based on the fact that I believe that there will be no IRS next year - not a snowball's chance in hades.

If we maintain our infrastructure, if it's a 4 or 5 or 6 max, if the gubbmint survives (just), they will still have a simple database of taxpayers - they will have to declare an tax amnesty and institute a simple flat tax.

I don't see "they" have any other choice.

-- Andy (, July 30, 1999.

Hear ya go, fresh off the press at Yahoo Y2K news, Commissioner: IRS Over The Y2K Hump... <:)=

The Internal Revenue Service has put the "biggest part of the most serious risk" behind it as the agency nears the final testing stage of its Year 2000 remediation effort, according to IRS commissioner Charles Rossotti.

Rossotti, who spoke Thursday at the National Press Club, said testing of converted systems is underway and that the last phase of testing is slated to begin Oct. 1. The "tax system will continue as the century changes," he said. By the time it wraps up the conversion, the IRS will have spent nearly $1 billion in bringing its systems into Year 2000 compliance.

That kind of investment, however, has prevented the agency from replacing computer systems that date to the mid 1960s. "In recent years we haven't implemented any new systems, as we consumed most of our technology resources fixing the Y2K problem," Rossotti said.

'Accelerated' Progress In 2001/2002

But Rossotti predicted that in 2001 and 2002 the IRS should experience an accelerated rate of progress. The agency already is establishing a long-term plan for replacing its antiquated computers. Much of that work will fall under the IRS' Prime Alliance contract, which was awarded to Computer Sciences Corp. (NYSE:CSC - news) late last year.

Rossotti calls the upgrade "the biggest, toughest computer business systems replacement project that I have ever seen." But Rossotti is no stranger to managing systems integration tasks; he was a top executive at integrator American Management Systems Inc. (Nasdaq:AMSY - news) prior to joining the IRS in November 1997.

In other remarks, Rossotti said that the IRS will create more options for filing tax returns via the Internet and "put a process in place" for dealing with small businesses that may be unable to file a return because of Y2K glitches. He says he will make sure the agency deals with such cases in appropriate ways without making Y2K an excuse for not filing on time.

-- Sysman (, July 30, 1999.

e (,

That's an interesting bit of news that I have not heard before. I tried your link, but am unable to retrieve the document. Can you C & P it here?


-- RUOK (, July 30, 1999.

[Commerce Business Daily: Posted in CBDNet on July 29, 1999] From the Commerce Business Daily Online via GPO Access []

PART: U.S. GOVERNMENT PROCUREMENTS SUBPART: SERVICES CLASSCOD: X--Lease or Rental of Facilities OFFADD: Department of the Treasury, Internal Revenue Service, 6009 Oxon Hill Road, Suite 700, ATTN: M:P, Oxon Hill, MD 20745 SUBJECT: X--LEASE OR RENTAL OF FACILITIES (HOTEL) SOL TIRNO-00-LRHCSF DUE 081199 POC POC: Anthony Brown, 202-283-1315; CO David Scarce, 202-283-1402 DESC: The Internal Revenue Service anticipates awarding a contract for various types of meeting space and guest rooms. The procedures in FAR Part 12, Acquisition of Commercial Items, will be utilized for this procurement. The contractor selected may offer one or multiple hotels in Washington, DC. The contract will require the hotel to provide, on an as needed basis, the following: Meeting rooms w/or w/o guest rooms; guest rooms w/ or w/o meeting rooms; audio visual equipment; business center services; parking; and other related hotel services. The contract will provide for a performance period of up to two (2) years. The base year will run 12 months from date of issue and one option year, also of 12 months duration, if exercised. MANDATORY REQUIREMENTS: To be eligible for contract award, the hotel must meet the following mandatory requirements: (1) The hotel must be compliant with Hotel/Motel Fire Safety Act of 1990, 15 U.S.C. 2201 et.seq. (Public Law 101-391) and must hold a FEMA Certification Number (See FEMA at:http//;(2)The hotel must be compliant with the Americans with Disability Act, 42 U.S.C. Section 12101 et. seq. (ADA). (3) The hotel must have one of the following quality ratings: 1st class or higher per the Official Hotel Guide; Two stars or higher per the Mobile Travel Guide; Three diamonds or higher per AAA; or Three crowns or higher per the OAG Business Travel Planner. (4)The hotel MUST be located in the city of Washington, DC within four blocks of a subway station or provide scheduled or on-call shuttle service to and from the nearest subway station; the hotel must be located within a 10 minute ride (as measured by an average taxi) from the IRS Headquarters Building, located at 1111 Constitution Ave., NW. (5) The hotel must be connected to an automated reservation system, SABRE or equivalent, which is Y2K compliant. (6) The hotel must be unionized. It is the intention of the IRS to conduct Site Visits of all hotels within the competitive range. LINKURL: Not Applicable LINKDESC: Not Applicable EMAILADD: or EMAILDESC: Contract Specialist or Contracting Officer CITE: (W-210 SN360936)

-- e (, July 30, 1999.

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