F.Y.I.,

Rick has the same problem we do with a certain troll.

He asked me for the ISP here so he can contact the ISP provider. He's had it too.

Why The Power Will Fail In 2000

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0010xS

Asked by Worried Utility Worker (worried@eusa.com) from 209.75.196.105 on June 28, 1999.
Postings from 209.75.196.105 in the TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) forum Doing a reverse DNS now: 209.75.196.105 maps to ... sirrah.anonymizer.com

It links to...

A few of the names coming in on that sirrah.anonymizer.com ISP are:

Dan Webster (dan_webster@flashmail.com) on 1999-06-30: Response to Electric Utilities "Y2k Ready" List

Rodeo Rosie (fatch@nce.sucka) on 1999-06-05: Response to Mitch Ratcliffe Kicks doomer ass!

Dan Webster (cantsp@m.me) on 1999-04-29: Response to Cowles vs Dan The Power Man

And imitating ME... as a Sysop...

Answered by Time Bomb 2000 Sysop (y2ktimebomb2000@yahoo.com) from 209.75.196.104 on June 08, 1999.
Postings from 209.75.196.104 in the TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) forum Doing a reverse DNS now: 209.75.196.104 maps to ... ascella.anonymizer.com

The Super Polly/ SuperTroll of De Bunker fame uses the same sirrah.anonymizer.com a lot.

It's all interconnected... Super Polly & Dan Webster. Also uses all these anonymous ISPs...

209.75.196.105 maps to ... sirrah.anonymizer.com
209.75.196.104 maps to ... ascella.anonymizer.com
206.55.157.107 maps to ... www.idzap.com

A Super Polly post at De Bunker showing the idzap ISP...

Re: It's useless BUT watch them hang themselves!
Tuesday, 29-Jun-1999 19:03:04

206.55.157.107 writes:

http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb237006&MyNum=930697384&P=Yes&TL=930674169

And...

Hi there, mama
Wednesday, 30-Jun-1999 17:34:32

216.200.158.129 writes:

http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb237006&MyNum=930778472&P=Yes&TL=930674169 Red handed is right. They can bitch all they want about "handle stealing". I did not make those posts. And I have no idea how I would change the date like that.

Diane "just shag me baby" hates my guts, and will do whatever she can to get "the group" to delete me on site. She failed once so I guess this was her second try.

Super Polly

###

Told Rick Id help in any way necessary, to stop this trasher.

Diane

-- Anonymous, July 04, 1999

Answers

I think it's safe to say that it's common knowledge that all ISPs have Terms of Service which (far as I know prohibit disruptive behavior. Because this IS such common knowledge, I think a standard complaint letter should go immediately to the appropriate ISP. It's kinda like the Israelis--not too many people mess with them because they know the penalty is swift and sure. I don't know this, but I suspect we have a reputation for being soft on trolls, hence they come and bother us.

Kick off the campaign by complaining about Andy Ray! Definitely deliberately disruptive.

Might be appropriate too to regularly swap troll info with the sysops you communicate with, warn them as soon as a new one shows up, send them copies of complaint letters.

Someone said on the forum today that they had asked people from other forums to post here but they had taken one look at the troll arguments and not come back. . .

What can I do? Would you like me to collect all Super Polly's posts from Der Boonkah for you, if you haven't already done so?

-- Anonymous, July 04, 1999

What we need is the title, date, the specific InsideTheWeb.com URL link and the number codes.

Then he can check his records.

Gotta run, will get back to this later.

Diane

-- Anonymous, July 04, 1999

For the record...

Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 10:13:29 -0400
From: Rick Cowles rcowles@waterw.com
Reply-to: rcowles@waterw.com
Organization: Not Very
To: sacredspaces@yahoo.com
Subject: Can you check somethin' for me?

Diane,

Can you go to the thread titled "Why the power will be fail in 2000" from Worried Utilitiy Worker (Mr. Pooles hoax thread), and let me know what IP address the original posting was made from? I'm tired of his crap and am going to take some action; I just need to know if the IP address on the Yourdon forum matches the IP address for the same message on the euy2k.com forum.

Best,

Rick

-- Anonymous, July 04, 1999

IDZAP--One of the anonymizers Super Polly uses. (Sent to Rick Cowles).

For the record...

On or about June 9, 1999...

Sent ID Zap an e-mail I forgot to make a copy, but this is what I sent, from the bottom of one of their return messages:

> Dear IDZap,

> Could you please either send me or point me to a policy statement that protects a moderated forum from being trolled by someone using your service?

> Thank you,

> Sysop
> Time Bomb 2000 Forum

From: info@idzap.com (IDZAP Admin)
To: "TimeBomb Forum Moderator Sysop" y2ktimebomb2000@yahoo.com
CC: info@idzap.com
Subject: RE: IDZap Policy Statement Request
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:53:25 -0700

Could you provide some more detail?

What did the "someone" do?

Thanks.

IDZAP staff

Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:34:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: TimeBomb Forum Moderator Sysop y2ktimebomb2000@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: IDZap Policy Statement Request
To: IDZAP Admin info@idzap.com

They are consistently flamming, trolling, agitating, heckling, and occasionally using obscene comments.

So,

Do we have and rights?

Thank you.

Sysop

From: info@idzap.com (IDZAP Admin)
To: "TimeBomb Forum Moderator Sysop" y2ktimebomb2000@yahoo.com
CC: info@idzap.com
Subject: RE: IDZap Policy Statement Request
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:39:14 -0700

Thanks for your message. We can understand that you are unhappy. At the moment, we do not have a policy statement on what people should and should not do. We will need to think about this carefully. We will probably put up some policy guideline. However, we do not see ourselves in the censoring business.

Thanks.

IDZAP staff

From: info@idzap.com (IDZAP Admin)
To: "TimeBomb Forum Moderator Sysop" y2ktimebomb2000@yahoo.com
CC: info@idzap.com
Subject: RE: IDZap Policy Statement Request
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:54:15 -0700

I would like to let you know that we have just put up a policy page

http:// www.idzap.com/compinfo/policy.html

There is a link to the policy page from our home page. Thanks for your suggestions.

IDZAP staff

IDzap anonymous browsing policy

The IDzap free anonymous browsing is provided free of charge to the public. By using this service, you agree to be bound, without any limitation or qualification, by the following Policies.

 You agree not to use a robot, such as Reget, GetRight, Go!Zilla, or any similar programs, to download content continuously in an unattended or attended basis.

 IDzap is not responsible in anyway for any damages or losses, either directly or indirectly, arising from your use of the free anonymous browsing service, or by your inability to use this service.

 If you post messages through the IDzap service, or send email through the IDzap service, you agree not to send anything that is unlawful. You agree that you will not use this service to:

 harass, threaten, or abuse others.
 invade the privacy of others.
 infringe the copyright and/or intellectual properties of others. < br>  impersonate another person or entity.
 spam the Internet.
 do anything illegal.

 The IDzap free anonymous browsing service is provided "as is". There is no warranty, expresses or implied, of anykind. IDzap does not warrant that the contents retrieved through the IDzap browsing service are error free.

 You agree not to use the IDzap free service to post or email commercial messages.

 There is no guarantee that the IDzap free anonymous browsing service is available when you need it.

 IDzap has the right to terminate the free anonymous browsing service at anytime for any reason.

 IDzap reserves the right to deny service to anyone and/or any machine/IP address at any time for any reason. IDzap reserves the right to change any or all parts of this Policy statement.

IDzap reserves the right to take any necessary actions to enforce these policies.

-- Anonymous, July 04, 1999

For the record...

Subject: Re: The Trolls & IDZAP Policy
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 15:45:53 -0700
From: "Diane J. Squire" sacredspacesfs@earthlink.net
Organization: Sacred Spaces
To: Rick Cowles rcowles@waterw.com

Rick,

If you haven't seen this thread, you should. The attempted actions of this jerk may not only effect TimeBomb 2000, but anyone with a greenspun forum!

"Doc" Paulie tells about effort to remove TB2000 from MIT server

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id= 0012Bg

(The Super Polly troll a.k.a Worried Utilitiy Worker tauntingly posts at the De Bunker site)

(I) and My research team is happy to help "collect" info (proof), as needed.

Diane

BTW, F.Y.I. ... IDZAP...

[Enclosed the above post]

-- Anonymous, July 04, 1999