Has anyone seen a contingency plan that will pass the laugh test? Most say we will do it manually, assign extra personnel, have a generator, or extra cash etc. Has

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any Federal Agency come up with a realistic plan? For example what will people who rely on social security checks do when the check does not arrive? How can social security process payments if the Internal Revenue Service can no longer collect taxes. The budget surplus does not exist. There is no pile of cash available to distribute. I have heard nothing lately that the US Treasury has fixed the FMIS system that pays most Federal checks and payments including social security, Federal salaries,Federal pensions, veterans benefits and payments to the States for healthcare expenses, medicaid etc. etc. If this system fails, it will have a tremendous impact on the economy. Do the politicians really believe that there will be elections in November 2000 after the economy has collapsed? If the refineries, pipelines etc. do not work, the power generators will fail for lack of fuel even if everything else is 100 % compliant. With all of these potential problems,and record low farm prices, the recommendation is to store 3 days of food. This is almost criminal deception of the general public. The incumbent politicians will not be popular if there are elections in 2000. Why would the Democrats support Hillary? Neither she or her husband have done much to recognize and fix the problems and as stated before, fellow Democrat Senator Monihan tried to raise the alarm to the President in 1996 and was ignored. Now she wants his seat. How ironic. A competent liberal being replaced by a ???? The Republicians probably want her to run. With her knowledge of cattle futures etc. she can reduce the deficit and help Algore reinvent government, the internet and honest government.

-- Moe (3stooges@amazed.gom), June 24, 1999


Simmer down, Moe. I've already announced *several times* MY intention of hanging them ALL. We got it covered big guy. BTW....how much rope do YOU have?

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 25, 1999.

If this were a middle eastern country, rope would not be the instrument of choice. It's strange that in the only country that touts it's 'freedoms', it's the politicios that are enjoying more and more freedom. The general populace is so apathetic regarding our leadership that their opinions can be swayed by a late night comic. God help us that we have come so far and fell so low.

-- Lobo (atthelair@yahoo.com), June 25, 1999.

Hey Lobo, don't get me wrong...I'm always open any other inventive suggestions *aside from* the quick and "never knew what hit 'em" types.

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 25, 1999.

Will cont. would you like to get with me and play hide the generator?

-- Y2K Pro (2@641.com), June 25, 1999.


I empathize with your sense of betrayal.

But if there is one thing you must now understand it is that you are soely responsible for yourself, your actions, and your future welfare.

The Government was instituted to provide an environment in which its citizens could thrive if given free will. That, my friend, has been whittled away and may even be lost.

Do what you can now to limit your losses.


-- Thomas G. Hale (hale.tg@att.net), June 25, 1999.

Speaking of the general populace's opinions being swayed by a late night comic, New York City mayor Rudolph Guiliani was on Letterman tonight. He said he was going to form an exploratory committee to figure out if he should run for Senator...

...from Arkansas!

Love the "Run, Hillary, Run!" bumper sticker on the front bumper idea!

And to answer your question, Moe, well... um... don't know!

Got non-hybrid seeds?

-- (dot@dot.dot), June 25, 1999.

Hi Will...I dunno. Methinks that the ancient Chinese had lots of good ideas. Actually, the worst thing we could do to the politicians is vote them out and make plain citizens of them again. They wouldn't last ten minutes if they actually had to work for a living.

-- Lobo (atthelair@yahoo.com), June 25, 1999.

How much rope do you need? Kauai has a lot of sisal growing here. The original plan was to grow it for cordage for the sailing ships. Shipping went to steam, and the sisal is growing all over the island (unused). We could probably produce a fair amount of cordage. Why, reinventing the cordage industry could help us overcome the coming depression.

-- Mad Monk (madmonk@hawaiian.net), June 25, 1999.

Hi Monk.

Don't laugh. I know you said it jokingly but think about it. You may have just found yourself the niche you need post-y2k.

If the general populace starts hanging politicians and newscasters after y2k, you will be overrun with orders. After all, you certainly wouldn't use an OLD rope on a politician, would you? (might break too soon!!)

-- Lobo (athelair@yahoo.com), June 25, 1999.

I believe that everyone's main contingency plan is to ignore y2k as long as they can while hoping that problems are minimal. Maybe the military is taking this thing seriously. No one else is.

The (academic) institution where I work is undergoing refurbishing of some buildings, with a great shuffling of offices being planned for.... the year 2000. I listen to the plans, nod my head & think, "Most likely none of this will actually happen."

The institution is expecting business as usual. I'm not. It's as though I have found a cosmic lump, & no one else believes it's there.

Strange days.

-- what if (the@system.fails), June 25, 1999.

I think, *if* we have an election in 2000, (I fear we may not) the results will reflect the lack of leadership we are currently experiencing. People who were honest about the problems faced will be in the strongest position to benefit. The list of who gets thrown out and who gets elected will be directly related to what's going on right now. Someone like Jesse Ventura would stand a strong chance.

You know, that War College scenario showed one chart that had an after-effect as "new leaders". I hope they're right, and that they're better than what we've got now.

-- Mommacares (harringtondesignX@earthlink.net), June 25, 1999.

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