hey last time folks, some dude just tells me i,m being judgemental, i, a hypocrite, i,m saying i,m right your wrong? whatever. all this started when i was replying to thepost about''last-days'' yah i,m a believer, but i sure as hell, ain,t better than no-one. in fact i,m a friggin sinner being worked on.s0 nice try , you who judged me. frankly i don,t give a rats ass, what you think of me. all i was saying is lotsa prep. & a prayer aain,t gonna hurt nobody. but the[word] stands by itself.believe it or not there is the GOD factor in this life,flame on , as many times as i,ve been in life or death situations, you ain,t gonna tell me prayer didn,t help. and too all the intellectual shmucks, who correct my spelling. like the good book say,s JESUS died for all..what they do with it is ther business.

-- al-d. (catt@zianet.com), June 09, 1999

Answers

Al-d,

People correct your spelling because without grammar you appear ignorant, and nobody likes talking to an ignoramus. But in regards to your topic, I actually think you refered to the forum as "god- haters". Judegmental? Hmmm,... a trifle.

So let's be nice, calm down and try and explain to us what it is your trying to say. Just what life and death situations have caused you to become such a religious juggernaut? And, how can we explain to you, nicely, that this topic is the ultimate no winner. It's just an endless question of faith, you got it or you don't. You can't instill faith in people.

-- (workathome@atl.ga), June 09, 1999.

Sorry 'bout that typo in Judgemental, don't "judge me".

Oh and btw Al-d, can you tell us why you need ELEVEN different threads to explain to us how you feel? Not like there is a shortage of threads but still, it's sort of monopolizing the forum, no?

-- (workathome@atl.ga), June 09, 1999.

i didn,t mean to imply this is a god haters forum, even tho there is such a critter, i used to be one.no offense intended, but if the shoe fits that ain,t my problem. before i realized i was spiritually lost, i was a boozing violent mo-fo. been in more jails than motels, so how the hell am i gonna judge anyone, if it wasn,t for GOD,S grace i,d still be all screwed up, now i,m only a little screwed up. go ahead, jump on that. so i ain,t book educated, learned life in the streets. called>reality. call me what you will, but i believe the>man/GOD>JESUS. I AIN,T NOBODY,S JUDGE, don,t wanna be. so flame away...i,m crackin-up. hey i bet ed y. wouldn,t kick me to the curb, cause i don,t spell perfect, and ain,t p.c. literate. all you snobpunks come on out in the boonies with me for couple weeks , then talk your crap.

-- al-d. (catt@zianet.com), June 09, 1999.

You still haven't said anything that makes sense.......

-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), June 09, 1999.

Mr. Cook

Ditto, Ditto.....

-- Wondering (wh@t.he.sed), June 09, 1999.

Don't mind Robert. We have a bunch of people, some that have been here a long time, that still haven't said anything that makes sense... <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), June 09, 1999.

Can you please open up what must be a very small mind and get it this time? PLEASE take your God agenda someplace else. You have certainly spent alot of time here today on a bunch of crap only you and people of like mind would enjoy. The people on this forum are not here to hear your version of the bible.

-- BiGG (supersite@acronet.net), June 09, 1999.

al-d- better check your meds- you proably forgot a dose or two.....

-- anita (hillsidefarm@drbs.com), June 09, 1999.

al-d,

Look in the good book at Phillipians 2:10-11. In spite of what some folks are saying to you here, it says the day will come when every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. The book also has some instructions about pearls that you might want to check up on.

-- Sharon L (sharonl@volcano.net), June 09, 1999.

Oh i don't really mind him speaking (anybody is certainly free to do that, as long as the ACLU doesn't catch you doing it!); I just wish he'd make sense about the message he wishes to put forth.

If he wishes to discuss religious issues - I won't stop him or edit him - but if nothing he says makes sense, how does he expect to convert others. A valid message, correctly presented to others, will get heard; and some of those hearing it, may decide to believe.

A message rendered incoherently becomes invalid, distracting (preventing) others (who can can present it correctly and usefully) from making what is (perhaps) the same point to the intended audience.

Apply this lesson to teaching (converting ?) other people's religions. They won't listen (shouldn't listen) if they can't understand you.

Apply it also for anybosy who wants to discuss Y2K issues (many observers believe the dear Paul Milne "lost" many in his intended audience by being too obnoxious (slightly understanding the case here), many others believe G. North "lost" many people by stressing a strident "10" scenario - leaving little room for 5,6,7,8's.)

-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), June 09, 1999.

the a.c.l.u?? let,s see american civil [LIBERTIES] seems like alot of good men died defending, our rights, my father included. so you don,t like my message, so ,so, i ain,t crazy about some of snotty-ass messages i,ve been seeing on this forum last 4 months, flame away, bubbas, lets see who FLAMES LAST.READ ALL MY MESSAGES BEFORE YOU JUMP IN MY DOO,DOO

-- al-d. (catt@zianet.com), June 09, 1999.

Apparently your message is Burn in hell with the rest of humanity. I'll write that down and send it to Hallmark. Maybe they can use it this Christmas.

So anyway, what is this about, Jesus or the A.C.L.U, your confusing me.

-- (workathome@atl.ga), June 09, 1999.

nice try w.a.home in ga. read the post before mine, some clown said he [gives me permission] but i need to sweat the a.c.l.u. and your thingee about i hope everyone burns in hell, is lame,lame. i wouldn,t wish that,not even on slick willy. ok. lasdt time i get the message this ain,t bible answer man time, chill out.hey i love all folks, but i don,t have to kiss-butt to get along.any how enuff is enuff, i mispelled on purpose. if your so freaked out about y2k, it ain,t my fault.we,re all gonna die sooner or later, it ain,t about 'when but how.

-- al-d. (CATT@ZIANET.COM), June 09, 1999.

from originall question: {snip}

JESUS died for all..what they do with it is ther business.

{end snip}

Is that what you were trying to say? Hell you didn't need eleven threads to get that across to us "intellectual shmucks".

-- (workathome@atl.ga), June 09, 1999.

No, dear sir - the anti-christian lawyers association doesn't seem to want to want anybody saying anything they disagree with nowdays....if you re-read the original text of the founders' speeches, you'll find even Pat Henry impassioned "give me liberty or give death ..." can actually be read much as the form of prayer crying for the freedom of speech Democratic (socialists) politicians are determined to take away.

Watch what they do, watch who they sue, watch who they support, dear sir, you'll find the aclu is determined to remove freedom from those who disagree with their stance. But defend with a religious verve anybody who supports them.

They'll send money to Gore when he preaches from a pulpit, asking for donations in democratic churches that are collected in the collection basket - they'll defend violently a crufix submerged in urine as "art", but demand a list of the ten commandments be removed from a courthouse wall.

They'll loudly proclaim Gore a leader when he cries for a closer religious-state cooperation but cry also for the murder Barr, Starr, and Heston as religious zealots, citing these for hatred because they declare their real love forothers. They'll say on the House floor that it is obscene to call for fidelity in marriage, to call for a man and wife to love each and marry before bringing a baby into the world, and they'll claim the Bible is obscene for requiring marriage at all, but the aclu sees no link between betrayal of the country by its President for money - because the money was needed to defeat the religious right, and the collapse of honesty in its citizens.

-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), June 09, 1999.

wow, hey robert. you called me sir, whats up? ithought you said i ain,t makin sense, anyhow i totally agree, the a.c.l.u. are 2 faced as hell, as a matter of fact i think they suck.they pretend to be for ALL peoples rights, except christians, oh well bro. its just a sign of the times, don,t get me wrong i ain,t into the shove religion down throats stuff, you can,t legislate righteousness.BUT HECK if the gays can come outta the closet, why not everyone. come on flamers it,s been a whole 30 minutes.

-- al-d. (catt@zianet.com), June 09, 1999.

NOTE TO LOVING CHRISTIANS WHO WANT TO KILL US: Look, we're for peaceful co-existence. We're not really that far apart. You worship the Vindictive Crybaby SchoolMarm Jesus -- many Subs worship the Live-It-Up, Hell-Raisin', FIGHTIN' JESUS. You worship a dead guy on a stick, we worship a chopped-off head that gets hit with a stick. Isn't there some common ground? (The Founder of Christianity wans't as asqueamish as his modern fan club. He was compassionate towards the weirdos, sinners, and victims of his day, and he was also PISSED at the NORMALS of his day. And, like "Bob," he didn't want to KILL them, but merely to LEAD them, as a shepherd leads his flock. Keeping them happy until the slaughter. The Harvest...ahhh, yes... THE HARVEST!!!)

NOTE TO ALL WHO WOULD DENTY THE TRUTH OF "BOB" DOBBS: There is nothing lower than a debunker. The debunker is the most despicable parasite in Creation -- worse even that the Critic. DEATH to EST debunkers! DEATH to UFO debunkers! DEATH to WRESTLING debunkers! DEATH TO ALL SUBGENIUS DEBUNKERS!!!! WE WILL BURY YOU IN "DE BUNKERS!!"

-- ! (!@!.!), June 10, 1999.