Paging Yourdonites For Chat On Various Subjects : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread

Some of us want to chat together conveniently once a week or so on selected subjects of practical interest. Firearms and family defense. Prioritizing remaining preps. Gardening. Y2K community support. Managing our relationship to the banking system. And more.

If you are interested, email me and I will put you on a list, notifying you of our "seminars." Obviously, email addresses must be authentic. However, I will not reveal your email address to the list at large.

I reserve the right to accept or reject all requests for participation, based on my decision about the character of the person making the request. No trolling of any kind will be permitted during chat sessions.

I note that chat sessions can be cut-pasted for future reference, so this will offer some of us a chance to build up our own prep archives and to ask questions "on the fly". Wherever possible, seminars will be steered by Yourdon "experts" on the subject.

-- BigDog (, June 02, 1999


I'm in. Be happy to do gardening/food related and participate in other discussions to do with frugal living and being prepared for any emergency.

-- Old Git (, June 02, 1999.

That sounds good to me, I'm in.

-- Nikoli Krushev (, June 02, 1999.

hey, Nik, gotta send me your email address! NO ONE is going to get it from me and the chat session will hide it.

On the positive side, the chat sw we will use (very easy to download) is registered with AOL and trolls can be tracked if necessary after blocking them during the session.

Re some possible add'l subjects:

ham radio

newbie preps

NWO and geopolitical issues


A word to newbies and lurkers: you are very welcome, though I may reasonably probe your "bona fides". If you know a regular on the forum personally or through correspondence, say so.

A word to all: apart from smashing trolling, there is nothing "secret" about this. Just another form of community-building and mutual support.

If participating people want to cut-paste pieces from a chat session and post on Yourdon as a thread, cool.

-- BigDog (, June 02, 1999.

BTW, Old Git is already "on" to help steer a gardening "seminar" and Arlin will do one on firearms and family defense.

-- BigDog (, June 02, 1999.

Perhaps start a PRIVATE forum here on Greenspun BigDog? It seems to work the same, except a PASSWORD is needed to "log on." Just a thought. <:)=

-- Sysman (, June 02, 1999.

BIG DOG... I am the weapons and arms safety canine...


waggin' the tail vigorously....

The Dog

-- Dog (, June 02, 1999.

Sysman -- good question. I would think the new moderator is probably weighing things like private forums as a supplement to TB2K. As a Yourdon user, I'll support whatever is decided on that score.

This is apples and oranges to that:

"Chat", like "email" and "forums", stands on its own as a separate form of Internet media.

Plusses: real-time, serendipitous conversation, control of trolls, just plain fun.

Minusses: can be slow, conversations can lag, takes a lot of time, have to connect when the conversation is actually happening.

I see this as "both-and", not "either-or", though, as I said, chat material of use (and there'll probably be reams of it) can be posted here as a thread without too much hassle, thus sparking still more conversation.

I'm a fan of email, forums and chat, so what the hey?

One more thing on the overall drill:

1. I will provide instructions on getting and installing the needed software.

2. I will provide schedules for each seminar and interested folk will RSVP ahead of time.

3. I will invite the specific participants at the stated time.

4. Chat on subject.

5. Post interesting results to Yourdon if someone has the time/energy/motivation and if the participants agree.

This idea is different strokes for different folks, depending on what they're interested in.

-- BigDog (, June 02, 1999.

Please add me in.

-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Kennesaw, GA) (, June 02, 1999.

Add me in too! E-mail is real!

-- Libby Alexander (, June 02, 1999.

Hey Big Dog add me in too, thanks Daryll

-- Daryll Smallwood (, June 02, 1999.


-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (, June 02, 1999.

Add me too, please.

-- Cary Mc from Tx (, June 02, 1999.

Ooh! Ooh! Me, too!

-- Arewyn (, June 02, 1999.

Count me in B.D.

-- FLAME AWAY (, June 02, 1999.

I'd love to get involved.

-- Doug (, June 02, 1999.


Add me to the list

-- homer (, June 02, 1999.

Sounds great, BD. Out me on the list.

-- pshannon (, June 02, 1999.

Please include me. I am not a big contributor but I do appreciate all I learn from you. Never too old to learn new ways and gather information that is helpful. I enjoy checking your posts and have much left to learn. By the way, the name is Dot.

-- Old Gramma (, June 02, 1999.

Same here.

-- Rickjohn (, June 02, 1999.

Please add me. I work in retail, so maybe I can keep you informed as to what the general public is or isn't buying.

Thanks. Marcy

-- Marcy (, June 02, 1999.

Big Dog-

I'm interested. I could contribute on gardening and canning if you still need that sort of info. This is me:

Thanks for your efforts. Linda

-- newbiebutnodummy (, June 02, 1999.

Please add me to your list. I have been reading for over a year and have posted occasionally. This forum has been vital to my preparations for the Year2000.

-- Jean (, June 02, 1999.

Please add me to the list. Thanks

-- (, June 02, 1999.

I'm in!

-- Steve (, June 02, 1999.

I'm in Big Dog.

-- Mike Lang (, June 02, 1999.

I am interested also BigDog. E-mail address is real.

-- Dian (, June 02, 1999.

I'm in! Any chance we can get anyone to talk about "grass roots community organization"?

Mike ===================================================================

-- Michael Taylor (, June 02, 1999.

Just had another thought...any chance we can get real "inside info" into these chats? Since the chat room is essentially private I would think that the information discussed could be kept confidential.


Mike ==================================================================

-- Michael Taylor (, June 02, 1999.

I'm in for the haul Big Dog.

My expertise is it electrical, electronics, and control systems Glad if I can help>

Bob P

-- Bob P (, June 02, 1999.

count me in. email address is real.

-- j.stang (, June 02, 1999.

Please include me too. Nice to see Old Git at the *top* of the list, after all she was through over the last weekend. ;-)

-- Gordon (, June 02, 1999.

Please add me. I'm still depressed after Ed's leaving.

-- Bob Watson (, June 02, 1999.

Count me in :-)

-- Tim (, June 02, 1999.

I'd love to participate and be able to contribute something, since you all have given so much to me. I'm an RN and would be happy to share in q&a about healthcare and medicine. Be more than happy to research any healthcare topic.

Thanks for the opportunity BD

-- Carol (, June 02, 1999.

I would like to be a participant in your group.

-- Sharon L (, June 02, 1999.

Sounds like just the kind of information that I am interested in. Please add me to your list.

-- Mad Monk (, June 02, 1999.

Can't promise more than a lurk, but I'll be there.

-- Anita Evangelista (, June 02, 1999.

Me, too! Neighborhood Empath. Glad to help with newbie preps, community outreach discussions.

Faith Weaver

-- Faith Weaver (, June 02, 1999.

Big Dog,

This sounds interesting, please add me to your list.

mb in NC

-- mb (, June 02, 1999.

The response has been great, both online/this thread and off. I'm jazzed by the opp'y to do something fresh together. Don't forget: your email has to be genuine. One of them on this post has bounced. Email me privately with your real email if you want. Once again, I won't share it and the chat software won't transmit it to others.

Back to everyone individually and together by email in the next day or so.

While you can certainly continue to post here (since I get your replies sent to me), you can also email me directly instead of posting here if you would rather do that.

-- BigDog (, June 02, 1999.

Big Dog,

I'd be happy to co-facilitate a seminar on newbie preps-- if I'm needed. Of course, put me on the list for notification of all seminars.

Sincerely, Stan Faryna

-- Stan Faryna (, June 02, 1999.


Please include me! :-)

-- Scarlett (, June 02, 1999.

Sign me up, BigDog...

-- Nabi Davidson (, June 02, 1999.

Big Dog I'd be glad to help out.I'm just about done with my preps. I'm an old farmer with 50 years experience and i've been lurking for a while.Joe

-- Joe Rexer (, June 02, 1999.

Missed you last Wednesday, Sport. Please make sure I'm on your list for next time.


"Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us." -- Jerry Garcia

-- Hallyx (, June 02, 1999.

Please add my name to your chat list ! Thanks !

-- reed moore (, June 02, 1999.

Whoops. I guess I meant yesterday. My, how time flies.


"Time is what keeps everything from happening at once." ___(seeking attribution)

-- Hallyx (, June 02, 1999.

Me too! Me too!

-- Wink (, June 02, 1999.

Count me in. brett

-- brett45 (, June 02, 1999.

Yes, I would like to help.Been reading since 1996. Writing and lecturing-health care. Thank you.

-- Ruth the Moab (, June 02, 1999.

Would like to participate. Have lived in wilderness for over a decade and work in ag sector. marsh

-- marsh (, June 03, 1999.

Me too, please! *big smile* I need to learn a lot & may have a few things to contribute as well.

-- Sammie Davis (, June 03, 1999.

Count me in too!!! Allison

-- Allison Mesnard (, June 03, 1999.


-- Chuck, a night driver (, June 03, 1999.

Yes please.

-- Will (, June 03, 1999.


Where do we get this software... <:)=

-- Sysman (, June 03, 1999.

me 2

-- anita (, June 03, 1999.

Count me in too please!

-- ExCop (, June 03, 1999.

I'd love to join in too!

-- Sheila (, June 03, 1999.

I listen much better than I type (and far more often too)but I would consider it an honor to be a member of your group.

Count me in, subject to your approval, and no hard feelings on my part if not accepted.


-- sweetolebob (, June 03, 1999.

Count me in, with the proviso that the AOL s/w is "older" Mac compatible.


-- Diane J. Squire (, June 03, 1999.

I'd like to be included. Been a homesteader and fairly self-reliant for 7 years now in practice and for 20 years in theory.


-- Debi Breitbach (, June 03, 1999.

Diane, Per AOL: System Requirements for Mac version of AIM 2.x

Macintosh with a 68030 CPU (68040 recommended) or Power Macintosh MacOS 7.1 or later MacTCP 2.0.6 or Open Transport 1.1 (OT 1.1.1 recommended) 4 megabytes of free memory, 5 megabytes of free disk space 640x480 256-color display Internet connection

Have not verified. Have not used AIM (I'm a ICQ sort of person :-) but version 2.x is reported to contain the buddy chat software. Will download and install soonest free moment - email me if you have any Mac specific questions that I can help with.

-- Tweak (, June 03, 1999.


Macintosh with a 68040 CPU (running OS 8.0). Has any Mac user "tested" this?


-- Diane J. Squire (, June 03, 1999.

Thanks, Tweak. If you could report back to the thread on your experience, would be helpful to some others (Leska also has Mac, Pat Shannon, I believe and anyone with a brain). Unlike me, though I still have the first Mac model (bought by moi on the first day they became available).

As a sometime writer, I was blown away. Funny story: was working for my father-in-law, a big-time IBMer at the time who had just left. We did a proposal on the Mac (you'll recall, it was easy to tell at the time), sent to IBM CEO and the like (huge CASE proposal). To make it "worse" my otherwise then-IBM bigot father-in-law told them they should all get Macs!

We didn't get the project. Typical of my father-in-law, may he rest in peace, he figured that was their problem and their loss.

He was right.

-- BigDog (, June 03, 1999.

See also...

Paging Yourdonites About Possible Chat Subjects 000u8R

-- Diane J. Squire (, June 03, 1999.

Count me in ---- It's so great to see so many of those who have been around for a loooong time, wanting to be involved....

-- Carlie (, June 03, 1999.


Per Apple Tech Note 30363, OS 8.1 will run on a 68040 with a minimum of 12 Meg of real RAM. 20Mb recomended. See for the whole story.

I have a couple of old IIci with 040 cards working as DNS and gateway servers. Still running 7.5.5 on them since I don't need all the goodies in 8.1. I'll post a message in our user group BBS and see what others say about 8.1 on a 040.

Feel free to email me with any other Mac questions. Address is correct.

-- Tweak (, June 03, 1999.

Add me to the list,please E-mail is real

-- Char (, June 03, 1999.

Thanks Tweek,

It's 8.0 that I run, not 8.1.


-- Diane J. Squire (, June 03, 1999.

Please include us!

Thanks for your effort. Abjuring the Relam,

Deo Vindicie!,


-- brother rat (, June 03, 1999.


-- Good Idea (take it, June 03, 1999.

Top again!

-- Old Git (, June 04, 1999.

Me too, please.

-- David Palm (, June 04, 1999.

Great Idea. Please add me !

-- John (Galt) Standen (, June 04, 1999.

Add me too please.

-- A. Secrest (, June 04, 1999.

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