Well Victor Chernomerdon (sp?) said in response to Clintons proposal for 90,000 American ground troops, (not exact) "We are closer to nuclear war at this moment than at any time in history."

On a brighter not India and Pakistan are at it again, swapping artillery rounds over Cashmere. And India is seeking an alliance with Russia. Can somebody please add up the total population of India,(Which has the worlds fourth largest navy and 2 deep water aircraft carriers) Russia-(who has more nukes than the rest of the world combined), China (take a while to count here), N. Korea (pissed off and hungry), and Iraq (remember us? we remember you.) I think we should have choosen allies a little sooner. Looks like we are outnumbered and outgunned about 3 to 1.

-- Nikoli Krushev (doomsday@y2000.com), May 27, 1999.

Nik et al,

I heard a VERY interesting program on the Radio yesterday - check it out on the www.sightings.com archives - it was Dr. Coleman talking to Jeff rense.

I have been trying to work out all theses alliances for a long time now, as has Nik and others.

Now what Jonathan Coleman had to say (and I respect the guy - he's been around a long long time and is usually on the money) is that essentially (and you're going to have to listen to the program - well worth it), is that if the USA so much as sends one grunt into Yugoslavia the Russians will respond immediately and we will have the opening salvoes of WW III being fired. the Russians are spooked - the Generals are only just being held back by Yelstsin now, but if the USA attacks on (Russian- as they see it - their borders) Yugo. soil they cannot be restrained. the Russians know about this US/Chinese alliance.

Dr. Coleman is predicting that sooner or later WW III is going to happen. Listen to his reasoning.

The sides will line up like this

USA - Britain - China

v

Russia - Japan - Germany

Now you need to listen to the programme to work out why this may indeed be so. If Dr. Coleman is right, then the technolgy "leak" to China begins to make sense.

As a by the by he also said the stock market bubble was being artificially sustained by the fed and their fiat money system and will be collapsed in the blink of an eye, at will, when the time is right. He sees several more months before this will happen - subject to world events.

I'm going to listen to the show again as quite frankly it was all a little too much to take in in one fell swoop.

Later,

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), May 27, 1999

Answers

Andy,

Curiouser and curiouser. Went to site. Don't have sound card. Japan and Germany !?! If you have time, would you offer more tidbits?

-- R. Wright (blaklodg@hotmail.com), May 27, 1999.

Uh, Andy, I think the fellas on drugs. Try Russia, China, N. Korea, India, Iraq, Lybia, Yugoslavia, Belorussia, and Cuba VS. United States. I bet I'm closer than he is. I'll check out the program though.

-- Nikoli Krushev (doomsday@y2000.com), May 28, 1999.

Nik,

no he's not on drugs he's perfectly serious - that's whay I want some opinions from you guys - Mr. Wright, there may be a transcript of the prog. on the site, usually takes a day or two to surface.

Dr. Coleman has two or three books at Amazon.com - one of them is "tyhe origins of WW III", written in 1983 I believe, wherein he predicted the same lineup of forces.

Also he has a web site and published a monthly newsletter, similar to Stratfor...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), May 28, 1999.

Andy,

War does make for strange bedfellows, no doubt about it.

I can't understand how our government can't see that sending in 90,000 American troops along with another 90,000 other NATO nation troops would make Russia nervous. Or, maybe they do understand this?

I can see how China would side with us during a fight. We're a huge trading partner to them already. But, it's tough to figure how Japan and Germany can fall into bed with Russia. I'll try to listen to the program, work is crazy right now which is a good thing!

As for the market bubble being artificially sustained I think this is absolutely true. When Long Term Capital got bailed out it was clear that something was strange in this "free market economy". Today, as I watched CNBC, they were interviewing a guy...darn his name escapes me...a big wig in Europe...when a reporter asked him how Y2k would impact Europe and the Euro CNBC quickly cut away. Strange!

Thanks for the heads up.

Mike ==========================================================

-- Michael Taylor (mtdesign3@aol.com), May 28, 1999.

Andy,

I listened to the program. Toward the end he said the 60M piece on y2k was spin. That y2k disaster is all hype. It is hard for me to believe his other stuff when he makes that statement. He sounds credible and right on a lot of things. But he didn't explain how these two alliances will come together. It is a mystery to me. I agree with Nik. Although he may not be on drugs, I'll have to get an explanation.

The one thing about the Russian/China axis is that China has to be ver careful. They will never trust each other. China has to think that if they help Russia attack the U.S., what would keep Russia from then nuking China to keep China from developing all these stolen secrets? Coleman has bought into the idea that the NWO elite is in control, the committee of 300. To bring about their NWO they have given these nuclear secrets to CHina so she can nuke Russia after Russia nukes us. I don't buy that scenario. Nyquist seems closer to the truth. b

-- BB (peace2u@bellatlantic.net), May 28, 1999.

No offense, but there is just NO WAY that the U.S. will be on the same side as China. That is like Britain & Germany being allies in WWII, when to a great degree their rivalry defined and caused the conflict.

my website (new articles on it as of last night): www.y2ksafeminnesota.com OR http://y2ksafeminnesota.hypermart.net

-- MinnesotaSmith (y2ksafeminnesota@hotmail.com), May 28, 1999.

Back in the 70's I trained it from Athens to Belgrade on my way to Vienna. Yugoslavia was beautiful. Belgrade was an uninspired city of boxes with windows. The terraine was such that in MHO, if we send two of our men into the area to fight, kiss them good-bye immediately. We cannot sustain a ground war in Yugoslavia. They will win. We will lose. Rome couldn't win with the Slavs 2,000 years ago, Hitler couldn't do it 50 years ago and we won't be able to to it today. Isn't it in June that the Bilderburger meeting takes place in Spain? When all the big boys get together and decide what will happen, and when? I am sure that this group will have our best interests at heart.

-- Richard Westerlind (Astral-Acres@webtv.net), May 28, 1999.

BB et al,

thanks for your comments - missed his remark on y2k, however on a lot of other questions he refused to answer saying he was not informed enough.

curiouser and curiouser...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), May 28, 1999.

According to the CIA World Factbook 1998 the following countries have x amount of people for certain situations :-) Where otherwise indicated these are 1998 estimations. China : males military manpower fit for military service - 197,553,118
males age 15-49 military manpower availability - 359,057,859
males age 15-64 population - 431,164,591
females age 15-64 population - 404,513,208 India : males military manpower fit for military service - 154,925,081
males age 15-49 military manpower availability - 263,765,005
males age 15-64 population - 310,995,355
females age 15-64 population - 288,344,336 Iraq : males military manpower fit for military service - 2,941,014
males age 15-49 military manpower availability - 5,247,809
males age 15-64 population - 5,794,336
females age 15-64 population - 5,662,163 North Korea : males military manpower fit for military service - 3,449,880
males age 15-49 military manpower availability - 5,704,690
males age 15-64 population - 7,089,039
females age 15-64 population - 7,406,901 Russia : males military manpower fit for military service - 30,098,346
males age 15-49 military manpower availability - 38,585,841
males age 15-64 population - 48,138,173
females age 15-64 population - 51,366,412 Combined Totals : males military manpower fit for military service - 388,967,439
males age 15-49 military manpower availability - 672,361,204
males age 15-64 population - 803,181,494
females age 15-64 population - 757,263,020 Total Age 15-64 Population - 1,560,444,514 Regards, Simon Richards

-- Simon Richards (simon@wair.com.au), May 28, 1999.

Richard wrote,

"Rome couldn't win with the Slavs 2,000 years ago, Hitler couldn't do it 50 years ago and we won't be able to to it today."

How ironic. You have to appreciate the poetry of it all, don't you?

Mike ===================================================================

-- Michael Taylor (mtdesign3@aol.com), May 28, 1999.