What do the credentials P.E. stand for? No text...greenspun.com : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread
-- Shari (email@example.com), May 26, 1999
-- Puddintame (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 26, 1999.
-- (@ .com), May 26, 1999.
Shari, my guess is that they were referring to Professional Engineer. This is a certification awarded at the U.S. state level by an official board. Typical requirements would be a bachelor's degree in engineering from an accredited college/university, 5 years of relevant (provable) work experience after receiving the degree, paying > $50.00, and passing an exam given only a few times a year. P.E. is commonly used as the abbreviation; there is an equivalent one for geologists called Professional Geologist, but its use is less universal. Hope this helps.
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-- MinnesotaSmith (email@example.com), May 26, 1999.
Puddintame and Minnesota, thank you for answering 'professionally'!
-- Shari (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 26, 1999.
How about Poopy Excrement?
-- (@ .com), May 26, 1999.
We have only a P.E. at our local Health Centre, writes Rx's. He's there with 1 Rn. and Office Manager. I'm happy with him, Wife thinks He's fine.
-- && (&&@&&.&), May 26, 1999.
Excuse me &&&&&...&&&&
YOU are referring to a PA,which is a horse of a WHOLE nother color. The PA is a Physician's Assistant, which takes 2-4 years plus 6-12 months of internship and a year or so of residence (depending) to go out and practice.
-- Chuck, a night driver (email@example.com), May 27, 1999.
Chuck, I wonder if && is English? He does have that spelling quirk; to wit, "Centre." There's no telling what PE means in UK. Probably "phoney euro."
-- Puddintame (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 27, 1999.
<< Professional Engineer. This is a certification awarded at the U.S. state level by an official board. Typical requirements would be a bachelor's degree in engineering from an accredited college/university, 5 years of relevant (provable) work experience after receiving the degree, paying $50.00, and passing an exam given only a few times a year.>>
But what KIND of Engineer? Am familiar with M.E., E.E. etc., but not PE.
-P.H.E. (professional home engineer)-
-- (wifeofME@home.com), May 27, 1999.
Public Enemy? (aka Bill whassisface)
Linda, who will not allow that man's name to be said in her house
-- newbiebutnodummy (Linda@home.com), May 27, 1999.
Okay but what does C.E.T. stand for?
-- Ken Seger (email@example.com), May 27, 1999.
-- not this time (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 27, 1999.
C.E.T. is a Certified Electronics Technician.
P.H.E. -- Being a P.E. is independant of the engineering discipline ( such as ME - Mechanical Engineer). The professional registration process with a state is actually a licensing process. A P.E. is issued a seal by most states that is used by the P.E. to approve or indicate that engineering drawings have been reviewed.
It is not a rubber stamp or honorary title. And it is not as cusory as MinnesotaSmith wrote. Professionally registered engineers are required to maintain currency in their discipline through a minimum number of educational credits every year. They are subject to board review for their competency and ethics. They are also subject to legal liability for their actions and decisions as Professional Engineers.
An engineer desiring a P.E. license doesn't just decide to pay $50 and take a test. First they register as an Engineer in Training ( E.I.T.) and work with the state governing board to satisfy criteria established for their discipline during the 'training' process. They also must pass a background and ethics review in most states before their nomination for a P.E. certification is voted on by the state board.
-- PNG (email@example.com), May 27, 1999.
Assuming things. Original (BS) was in nuclear engineering, minor in mechanical engineering and physics. Registered in TX and GA (based on nuclear section of the test, after 10 years practical experience in building/re-building, defueling, maintenance planning/scheduling/budgetting, repair and testing of the power plants for Navy - some additional operating experience "simply" running them.) MS in Industrial Engineering - Quality Assurance option (TQM, Process Improvement, Industrial Process Controls, Software Testing). 12 years software design & development, testing, training. CAD project mgr in chemical and refinery, subs & ship design, nuclear power, conventional power plants, computor chip manufacturing lines, pulp & paper plants, super collider project (until shutdown), warehouse and manufactoring layout. Limited food processing and shipping, some warehouse experience also.
-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Kennesaw, GA) (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 27, 1999.
Thanks for trying. I am sure my husband will understand what you said :)
Alas, I don't, so....tell me....as the Mgr. of the Manufacturing Engineering Dept., what is the difference, Robert, between you and the hubby? Is it better to be a PE than an ME? I'm really trying to understand, guys.
Don't bother with this if you haven't got the time.
PS...PNG...how's the Y2K climate over there?(And thanks...REALLY)
-- P.H.E. (wifeofME@home.com), May 28, 1999.
There is a fundamental difference in the degree of responsibility assumed by the PE, regardless of position in the company hierarchy or "source" of the training and education. A manager (at any level) is responsible to his boss for getting the assigned duties of his section of the company done.
This could be any duty, any "group" of tasks, and and any size "job" (small, medium, or building the Grand Coulee Dam) actually - the manager is responsible to his boss for getting the assigned tasks done. He has no legal responsibility to the public, and has no higher moral or professional duty to make sure the task(s) are completely correctly and safely than the manager's personal ethics. This is not any reflection on the quality of the individual manager, and there is no inherent that any given manager or engineer is not qualified or less qualified, of course. Its just that no "manager" has a legal professional responsibility to the public at large for the safety of the *results* his or her decision(s).
A PE, on the other hand, is registered by law. The PE is required, by law, to assure the public by personally reviewing the company's work (at all levels of design that could affect the public in any way) and personally signing the drawings to approve them for construction.
Literally, the PE is saying "Yes, I accept responsibility for these calculations, and you, John Q Public, can safely drive under this bridge, or walk over this road, or live in this building safely." Like an MD's relation to a patient, you are placing your life in the design decisions certified by a PE.
A manager - at any level - can only tell you whether or not his boss likes the way the manager is doing his or her job.
By the way, I think the jobs titled "mommy" and "daddy" are the most important ones, probably too the most difficult ones of all. Hold your head proudly, you've got a lot to be proud of doing that.
-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Kennesaw, GA) (email@example.com), May 28, 1999.
I've got it! Sure appreciate you taking the time to clarify.Thanks so much and Bless you for your kind remarks :)
-- (stay@homemomandwifeofME.com), May 28, 1999.