"They will cry 'peace, peace' , and then war will come" Or wy Baraques(sp??)victory is Importaint for the worldgreenspun.com : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread
Yesterday, Nentanyaho(Sp??P lost the Isrelli(sp??) elections to Baroque(Sp??), who has promised to finish the peace process. Remember that according the Bible, the last thing that is nessesary for Armageddon is for Isriel to be at peace, and then war comes. Does anyone else feel that the last "peaces" :) of the puzzle are coming into place?? Everything that needs to be in place for the end discribed in revalations is coming into place.. It should be obvious to everyone whats coming, even WITHOUT Y2K... I plan on praying and preparing even harder now... Got Prayers & preps?? *sigh* :(
-- Crono (Crono@timesend.com), May 18, 1999
This could be true. However, every generation has looked to the end times and found evidence as to why their generation would witness it. What is true of this century of Christians is that they have been waiting for Christ's return while letting their country, community and family values go to hell in a hand basket. The common thought among far too many has been, why fight evil when what we see happening will usher in the end times. Isn't all this evil wonderful. See, the Bible says it will be this way before the end. In the meantime, evil prevails. I don't think this lines up with Biblical christianity.
Don't mean to rain on your parade, and this is not meant to be directed at you personally. But I have heard this comment so many times from people who want to throw in the towle and give up the good fight. The real question is, are we running a good race? And remember, even Christ said that only the Father knew when He would return. Our wisdom is a little less than His. Don't burn all your lamp oil.
-- Daryl (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 18, 1999.
Crono my friend, bookmark the following link:
Webster's Online Dictionary
I may be spitting into the wind, nevertheless...Why should it be "obvious to EVERYONE what's coming"?
-- Bingo1 (email@example.com), May 18, 1999.
Have you read "Beginning of the End: the assassination of Yitzak Rabin and the Coming Antichrist" by John Hagee? This scenario fits in perfectly with his thesis. I read the book several years ago but couldn't quite fit all the pieces together then. I am about to re- read it because I believe that the picture is coming together quite rapidly now. It won't be long before Israel will be a land of "unwalled cities" ripe for invasion.
-- Sharon (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 18, 1999.
The temple also must be rebuilt in Jerusalem first. I remember reading that there is plans somewhere to do it. Also Israel is supposed to acquire more land approximating it 's ancient boundaries. There will also be a betrayal by a western ruler. I don't think we are quite there yet. Remember that it took what almost 50 years from the creation of the Israeli state till now and that was one of the first signs.
-- richard bush (Rbush15@aol.com), May 18, 1999.
Here's a web page by a group dedicated to building "the Third Temple" in Jerusalem: http://www.templemountfaith ful.org/
Shalom . . . Welcome to the home page of the Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement. The goal of the Temple Mount Faithful is the building of the Third Temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem in our lifetime in accordance with the Word of G-d and all the Hebrew prophets and the liberation of the Temple Mount from Arab (Islamic) occupation so that it may be consecrated to the Name of G-d.
G-d help us if they achieve their aim.
-- Max Dixon (email@example.com), May 18, 1999.
Crono .... You have it right ! With modern machinery, it wouldn't take long to rebuild the temple, and , for who knows what reason, the Arabs might not object, OR, it could be a trade-off for something they want. Been studying this for 18 years, and MANY peices HAVE fallen into place already , but as few even know there is a 'puzzle" being completed , they have ' NO CLUE' to the relivance of world events. Besides, they detest even thinking about giving up the joy of daily sinning for the straight and narrow !!! So you will read the same tired old answers of " they thought this would happen in .... but it didn't ." Stick to the straight and narrow ! It's harder, but He approves, and that's all the "bottom line" one needs ! Eagle
-- Hal (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 18, 1999.
Pretty much agree with you. At least its a likely possibility. Even Limbaugh (even if people don't like him, they should admit he makes a lot of astute deductions) said he is starting an office pool to bet on how long it takes for Israel to give away ceratain territories and Jerulselem. It'll never work --- but they'll try.
Unless God slows it down, many factors are coming together for 'the big one.'
-- Jon Johnson (email@example.com), May 18, 1999.
I also believe your assessment. Remember that near the end, we will be persecuted for our faith. "Christians preparing for y2k have even be labeled as "terrorists", because we cause others to panic ! Sound familiar to anyone else out there ? I run into this type of attitude at work and other areas of my daily life. If maritial law takes place, churches and even private residences will be raided for food, weapons, etc. The rapture could happen at any time. We must all be prayerfully ready...in the mean time....keep on stocking up ! ! God Bless you and yours.
-- (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 18, 1999.
There are so few people who know what is going on. I have been studying the word for over 40 yrs. If you want to see the truth in the news over there, check out the web site: www.a7.org Remember in the book of rev where the angel is standing with one foot on the sea, and one foot on the land? See if you do not think that this is it. The Ship is on the sea, the reporters are on the land. Look at the stack on the ship, is that a rainbow? Doesn't the word gospel mean good news? Seek the truth and it shall set you free. Check this site out. It will give you behind the scenes as to what is going on over there. This will be the only site where you will hear when old Yesser Arafat steps out onto the temple mount to declare that Jerusalem is now the capital of Palanestian's. This will be the Abonmation of Desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet. It will be an Abonmation to God, because of his hate for this people, and Desolation, because the War will begin. The Jews will not let them own the mount, nor will God. He promised the Jews, that the things that I do, I do not do them for your sake, but for my own Glory. There will be the war over this, because all the countrys army's are in place and everyone of them is against Israel. All the Arab states have promised Arafat that they will back his play. Oh by the way, the fullfillment of Rev. Chap.12 happened on Oct.14,96. This is when the sun was on the Virgins clothes and the new moon was under her feet. And this was the mid point of the last 7 years. Oh, one other prophetsy was fullfilled last week, the new babylon was opened by old Saddam himself. If you recall this will burn, as it says in Rev. Oh and one more little tid-bit. It was reported that water was coming from the foundation stone on the temple mount. this was reported by a radio broadcast from Arutz7 news. and can be found at www.jvim.com Look for the date of May 6th.
-- (Boilerman7@powerhouse.com), May 18, 1999.
You've got me wrong, I say we should fight the evil, it's just that far too many don't care. I plan on fighting to the end.
-- Crono (Crono@timesend.com), May 19, 1999.
As a new christian I find some of this confusing. A book I am currently reading about end-times prophesy states that many armies, huge armies, will march against Israel and be defeated. How can we be midway through the last 7 years if this hasn't happened yet? The book I am reading also says that Russia will be one of these great armies that is defeated by Israel, yet people here talk about an eminate nukeing of the U.S. by Russia? Now granted, end-time prophesies are subject to individual interpretation but I don't think that Russia is going to be nukeing the U.S.
-- rick (Iemail@example.com), May 19, 1999.
You should also read Mark Chap 13.The close of the chapter is what we should REALLY pay attention to"But about that day or hour no one knows, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son , but only the Father . Beware. keep alert; for yoy do not know when the time will come". We need to do what we know is right , God's will not ours.
-- rich Bush (Rbush@aol.com), May 19, 1999.
Try this site out... http://www.watchtower.org/ It is the official site of Jehovah's Witnesses. They too, are concerned about the times we are living in... The cry of peace and security is indeed one of the scheduled events just before the Great Tribulation, and then the battle of Armageddon. It's worth a look...
-- rick shade (Rickoshade@aol.com), May 20, 1999.
I cannot emphasise enough just how kooky all of this sounds to a non-christian. But don't let that stop you. I certainly hope you're coorect about that whole heaven thing. I'd love to play ping-pong with Tesla and Lennon and Hicks.
-- humptydumpty (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 20, 1999.
The only way I can see peace in Israel is actually splitting the temple in two, to allow access to the rock. Unrealistic, but it's the only way a compromise on that peice of geography could work for both cultures.
-- R. Wright (email@example.com), May 20, 1999.
Humpty: It's pretty simple, if you accept Jesus as your personal savior, you go to heaven. If you don't, and it doesn't matter how good a person you are, you don't get to heaven. This is the basics of Christianity.
And Jehovas Witnesses AREN'T going to make it to heaven unless they change their "game plan" to this simple belief.
-- rick (Ifirstname.lastname@example.org), May 20, 1999.