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PANIC IN THE YEAR ZERO
What does Clinton have in mind?
Y2K conference considers possibility of martial lawP> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Editor's note: This is the second of a two-part series on a Y2K
symposium in Washington.

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By David Franke
) 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

WASHINGTON -- At a time when most Y2K groups are having difficulty getting the public to attend free sessions on the Year 2000 computer problem, the Conservative Caucus managed to get nearly 100 people to pay $135 each to attend a daylong Y2K conference.

The difference, it quickly became apparent, was the May 8 conference's biggest drawing card: President Clinton. He wasn't present, of course, but the full title of the conference -- "Y2K and the Presidency: What Can Be Done to Block the Clinton Power Grabs?" -- made it obvious that he would be the center of attention.

It also became quickly apparent how the Clinton-led NATO war on Yugoslavia has galvanized the conservative movement as have few issues in recent years. If the Monica Lewinsky scandal gave these conservatives more evidence than they needed about the president's personal character, the war has aroused their apprehensions about his wider ambitions. As one speaker remarked to the conference, "There are domestic affairs and there are foreign affairs."

Conservative Caucus Chairman Howard Phillips set the stage in his introduction by declaring, "The premise of this conference is that the president of the United States has been guilty of illegal conduct. Our concern is that just as he acts criminally abroad, he will act criminally against us," using the technological pretext of Y2K breakdowns.

Clearly the warning bell for many of the speakers was FBI Director Louis J. Freeh's February 4 testimony on "The Threat to the United States Posed by Terrorists," delivered before a Senate appropriations subcommittee. In discussing "the domestic terrorism threat," Freeh gave primary attention to "right-wing extremist groups" and said that "as the next millennium approaches, violent and illegal acts may increase."

Freeh was referring specifically to what he termed "more extreme members" of the Christian Identity movement, but several of the speakers at this conference saw that as a subterfuge for eventually targeting all Y2K preparedness groups -- and especially Christian groups focusing on Y2K -- as "terrorists," and blaming them for any panic that ensues as the Year 2000 approaches.

Thomas Moore, who recently left the Heritage Foundation asdirector of International Studies, saw the Freeh testimony, a recent Janet Reno appearance on "60 Minutes," and domestic military preparations as evidence of a pattern designed "to criminalize us."

Donald Hodel, who has served as secretary of Energy and secretary of the Interior, and also as a former president of the Christian Coalition, added proposed "anti-terrorist" legislation to the stew.

"We need to be concerned about this anti-terrorist legislation," he said. "If all it takes is for the attorney general to decide we belong to a terrorist organization, then we are all in trouble."

Even if you eventually prevail in court, Hodel warned, the financial burden is overwhelming.

Newsletter editor Franklin Sanders related his personal experience in a battle with the Internal Revenue Service, and how "an administrative decision had been made, unknown to me, that I was a PDT -- a potentially dangerous taxpayer. Not only can you not fight it -- it follows you wherever you go in your legal fight."

"This whole issue of terrorism and the ability to classify people as terrorists," Sanders warned, "is frightening. What they're talking about is the exact same technique used by Hitler to classify and dehumanize the Jews and make them less than human."

And Don McAlvany, editor of the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, a geopolitical and financial intelligence newsletter, warned that the Clinton strategy of discouraging preparations for Y2K "virtually guarantees panic, which then will be blamed on us." McAlvany announced that he will soon publish a new book, "Storm Warnings," which shows that "the parallels to the Nazis vs. the Jews are simply incredible." The revelations first spotlighted in WorldNetDaily regarding the National Guard's Y2K exercises and domestic U.S. military operations among civilian populations served as a backdrop at the conference to speculation about the possibility of martial law.

"The military is preparing to conduct internal security missions -- in effect, martial law," declared military and international affairs expert Moore.

"The martial law being planned," he added, "is primarily aimed at urban areas, because they are the basis of this administration's power, so if you can move to a small town, do so." He currently lives in Washington, D.C., he confessed, but said he plans to follow his own advice.

"We also have to develop a strategy for dealing with the armed forces" in case of martial law, Moore added. A major part of that strategy, he feels, is to talk to members of the National Guard every day between now and any crisis.

"The National Guard is the people's army," Moore declared. "Even if federalized, they will not be a willing tool for the suspension of civil liberties. The National Guard is presently in the market for non-lethal weapons because they want to keep order without shooting fellow Americans."

"We need to start appealing to members of the National Guard," Moore continued, "and remind them that their oath is to the Constitution and their duty is to protect their local community -- not to protect a criminal regime imposing totalitarian order."

The possibility of an equally dire scenario -- the suspension of elections -- was raised by former Cabinet member Hodel.

Imagine, Hodel says, that Clinton is giving his State of the Union 2000 address. He lowers his eyes, bites his lip, then gives the American people his patented I-would-never-lie-to-you eye contact and says: "As you know, election offices across the land have computers that are not Y2K-compliant, and therefore cannot produce current voter registration lists. We cannot have elections without voter lists, and the primaries will start in 45 days. Regrettably, therefore, I must postpone federal elections for a period of six months, to give us time to remedy this situation."

"I am not saying this is likely," Hodel adds. "I don't know what the situation will be. But it is certainly imaginable that he might do so, because we have a president today who is essentially unrestrained by the Congress, unrestrained by the press, unrestrained by the people, and totally unrestrained by his own ethics."

The solution, Hodel says, is for conservatives to lobby Congress and demand that it pass preemptive legislation this year: "Congress can mandate that hard copies of voter lists be compiled and made available by December 1999, and that these be used if necessary for the elections in 2000."

After all, Hodel concludes, "After martial law by Clinton for six months, it won't matter if elections are ever held or not."

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Ray

-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), May 11, 1999

Answers

Sorry, Ray, But I just can't buy this scenario. To declare National Martial Law would require the total cooperation of the National Command Authority (comprised of both Republicans and Democrats). And I'm sure you can imagine the level of support/loyalty that would be given to any illegal order from the current Administration by the rank and file. Congress would also have to cooperate, and I just can't see that happening.

Spindoc'

-- Spindoctor (spindoc_99_2000@lyahoo.com), May 11, 1999.


Anyone else think that this is strangely reminiscent of the 1950s, only now the powers that be want us to fear those on the "right" instead of those on the "left"?

-- Uncle D (unkeed@yahoo.com), May 11, 1999.

Uncle D,

Maybe I'm being a bit thick today, but would you mind expanding your thought a little more?

Thanks,

Spindoc'

-- Spindoctor (spindoc_99_2000@yahoo.com), May 11, 1999.


Martial law in August. I believe it will be this year. The dove told me so.

-- dash (dot@dit.dot), May 11, 1999.

Spindoc,

You need to spend some more time studying Executive Orders, and how the whole martial law deal works. The president is the commander in chief, and the Joint Chiefs are all CFR members. During a national emergency, everyone, including the military, comes under FEMA, who acts in accordance with the National Security Advisor...none other than Sandy Berger. The military will follow orders. That's what they are trained to do.

When I was in the Navy, it was the Joint Chiefs who "discouraged" tricky dick from trying to use his authority as commander in chief to stay in power. This would not happen today. An Army officer who just got out and stopped by on his way to Idaho assured me that this would not happen today. They are yes men. They will follow orders.

Don

-- Don Wegner (dwegner@cheyenneweb.com), May 11, 1999.



>Regrettably, therefore, I must postpone federal elections for a period of six months, to give us time to remedy this situation.

Regrettably, Hodel has forgotten, or failed to notice, that the President has no authority to change the dates of any elections. See: U.S. Constitution.

>we have a president today who is essentially unrestrained by the Congress, unrestrained by the press, unrestrained by the people, and totally unrestrained by his own ethics.

Apparently Hodel has forgotten, or failed to notice, quite a lot of the past six years' U.S. history.

-- No Spam Please (No_Spam_Please@anon_ymous.com), May 11, 1999.


with an executive order, BJ suspends the relevant sections of the constitution, based on "It wouldn't be fair" (can't whine in print). At that time, we get to see a couple House members work up an impeachment effort, the Senate probably go long until...... Fill in the scenario yourself.

C

-- chuck, a Night Driver (rienzoo@en.com), May 11, 1999.


Thanks to the NRA, there are enough guns and rifles in the homes of the US citizens to insure that no Martial Law could ever be enforced without "The Consent of the Governed". The "Citizen/Soldier is still alive in the US but usually watching football or baseball when not hunting. If the need ever arose, the TV set would be turned off and you would witness "Red Dawn" in real time.

That "consent of the governed" would only be given for a short period to quell disorders of any sort. Anyone who thinks, American citizens would give up their guns during a period of Martial Law simply doesn't live in the real world. We live in a nation where the "gun rack" in the back window of the pick up truck is not an "option" but standard issue.

The idea that American military and American policemen would turn against their families to serve some "secret rulers" is absurd. You would see a repeat of the Russian revolution where the Army refused the Communist orders and let the people alone.

You people are sick with your talk of "sheeple" who will "awake" and panic when they find out the truth.

One definition of Insanity is to keep doing the same harmful things to yourself. Instead of learning from your mistakes keep repeating them.

Where was the "martial law" after the storms in Oklahoma, earthquakes in California and the Mississippi floods? The only people who moved into the last disaster were volunteers from all over to FILL SANDBAGS not to loot.

All these hucksters are using Y2k to find new "customers" and "members" for their causes. World Net is a joke. An echo of North and LosersWire on Y2k. They "tout" their friends and demean any who question their aims.

When challenged about their facts, Farah and his "staff" move on to other "critical issues".

What CRAP:

".......And Don McAlvany, editor of the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, a geopolitical and financial intelligence newsletter. ......"

He peddles a newsletter to people by convincing them he has the "inside story". He shows up at the "Y2k Expos" with people like "Bo" Gritz and the other Loony Fringe types all of whom have "the real inside story". The "facts" about every sort of crazy "conspiracy" one can think of. From "mind probes" at Waco to "poison in packaged foods"; the only thing missing is "floridation is a Commie plot against our freedoms".

Gold is going "South" not North. Gary North and all the Gold bugs have been wrong since 1980. Crisis after crisis have been trotted out by these Loonies and Gold goes down vs. the dollar in buying power. Once upon a time, the worst investment was US Savings Bonds vs. inflation. since 1980, Gold beat savings bonds.

And you BLIND DEMENTED FOOLS keep listening to the "voices" who insist "its coming, just wait, you'll see".

-- Who believes Ray anymore? (who.believes.this@Nutty.Ray.com), May 11, 1999.


Oh, please ... not the Executive-Order-suspending-the-Constitution line again!!

Executive Orders derive their authority from the Office of the Presidency, which derives its authority from the Constitution.

EOs _cannot_ suspend, amend, change, extend, or repeal any part of the Constitution.

-- No Spam Please (No_Spam_Please@anon_ymous.com), May 11, 1999.


Well Spam,

Clinton has started a war with Yugoslavia, and only Congress is allowed to do that (Article 1 section 8). So I doubt he cares one whit about violating another article of the Constitution.

<<<< he will soon publish a new book, "Storm Warnings," which shows that "the parallels to the Nazis vs. the Jews are simply incredible." >>>>

Leonard Peikoff published a book in 1982 called "The Ominous Parallels" which talked about precisely the same thing. His tome is primarily focused on the philosophical basis for Nazi Germany, the Weimar Republic, etc. and their counterparts in modern America (1970's and early 80's).

As for the military "just following orders". It remains to be seen. But I don't think the lifer non-comms with more than 15 years or so will go along with it. And the military won't work without them.

I was in the Navy for 6 years, getting out in 1985. I understand how they operate, having also been stationed for over a year on an Army base.

Combine that with a reluctant National Guard - who owe primary allegiance to the GOVENOR of their respective states, and I think we'll have open defiance, and Balkanization [sic] of the US if Klinton tries it.

I'm also 100% sure that Minnesota - for one, won't go with the program!

Jolly

-- Jollyprez (jolly@prez.com), May 11, 1999.



Klinton unnecessarily started the war in Yugoslavia. If a terrorist incident that can be blamed on the Serbs should occur, he could use it as a pretext to declare marital law. All of his recent actions smell of a power grab. Character does matter.

-- Mr. Adequate (mr@adequate.com), May 11, 1999.

Spindoc,

In the 1950s we had the anti-commie left winger fears were brought amongst us courtesy of Sen. McCarthy and his ilk.

Now, in the 90s, it is fear and loathing of the Right wing patriot types that gives the powers that be the willies.

In the 1950s, warrior types such as Ike were in power, fearing commies and liberal left-wingers.

Now, left wing pukes that protested Vietnam and screwed Jane Fonda fear those on the right.

Sorry, thats the best I can splain it.

Synchronicity all over again, only the other way around.

-- Unc D (unkeed@yahoo.com), May 12, 1999.


Spam,

"Oh, please ... not the Executive-Order-suspending-the-Constitution line again!! Executive Orders derive their authority from the Office of the Presidency, which derives its authority from the Constitution.

EOs _cannot_ suspend, amend, change, extend, or repeal any part of the Constitution.

-- No Spam Please (No_Spam_Please@anon_ymous.com), May 11, 1999."

Check your Civil War history, and the suspension of Habeas Corpus, then check back to the board. It is not without precedent.

Not that I believe it is imminent, but it has been done. Ask a Japanese American who lived through internment during WWII about EO type orders, and how they were affected by them.

Cheers,

-- Unc D (unkeed@yahoo.com), May 12, 1999.


BTW, NoSpam- EO's derive their authority from thin air. There is NO provision in Constitution, that I am aware of (if someone wants to quote the relevant clauses I'll be edified) that sets them up.

Chuck

-- chuck, a Night Driver (rienzoo@en.com), May 12, 1999.


>Check your Civil War history, and the suspension of Habeas Corpus, then check back to the board. It is not without precedent.

If it were deemed by the judicial branch that habeas corpus could not be suspended during the Civil War, then they should have overturned that order. Did anybody bring a challenge to court?

Don't blame the faults of people on some words.

>Ask a Japanese American who lived through internment during WWII about EO type orders, and how they were affected by them.

Roosevelt issued an unconstitutional order. Shame on him. Others enforced, or allowed that unconstitutional order to stand. Shame on them.

Put the blame where it belongs.

-- No Spam Please (No_Spam_Please@anon_ymous.com), May 12, 1999.



Don,

You wrote:

"You need to spend some more time studying Executive Orders, and how the whole martial law deal works. The president is the commander in chief, and the Joint Chiefs are all CFR members. During a national emergency, everyone, including the military, comes under FEMA, who acts in accordance with the National Security Advisor...none other than Sandy Berger. The military will follow orders. That's what they are trained to do.

When I was in the Navy, it was the Joint Chiefs who "discouraged" tricky dick from trying to use his authority as commander in chief to stay in power. This would not happen today. An Army officer who just got out and stopped by on his way to Idaho assured me that this would not happen today. They are yes men. They will follow orders.

Don,

I was an active duty Naval Officer up till @ 7 weeks ago. Your information is incorrect. There was a culture of 'yes-men' through the '70's and early '80's. That is no longer true. The military will follow the Rules of Law before they follow the Executive Orders. If the rules don't conflict, then Executive Orders prevail. Otherwise, the Executive Office has to prove National Extingency, and we would have to be attacked for that to happen. Cease and Desist,

Spindoc'

-- Spindoctor (spindoc_99_2000@yahoo.com), May 12, 1999.


Chuck,

Executive Orders are simply a particular category of presidential order.

>EO's derive their authority from thin air.

No, they are presidential orders, deriving their authority from the Office of the Presidency (since EOs survive a change in administration). Most EOs have a passage near the beginning along the lines of "By the authority vested in me by the Constitution of the United States, I, (name of President), ..."

>There is NO provision in Constitution, that I am aware of (if someone wants to quote the relevant clauses I'll be edified) that sets them up.

EOs are simply a particular type of presidential order. By the nature of the Presidency as the Chief Executive office, the President issues orders to others to carry out the work of the executive branch. EOs are just some of those orders. Orders are an inherent part of the mechanism of any executive office, presidential or otherwise.

-- No Spam Please (No_Spam_Please@anon_ymous.com), May 12, 1999.


Jolly,

>Clinton has started a war with Yugoslavia, and only Congress is allowed to do that (Article 1 section 8).

A) It depends on the definition of "war". :-) But I also mean this seriously. Has Clinton indeed started a "war", in legal terms?

B) Okay, challenge it in court. More precisely, tell your Congressperson and Senators to challenge Clinton in court.

>So I doubt he cares one whit about violating another article of the Constitution.

I'm not writing about Clinton's cares. I'm trying to counter some of the flood of misinformation about Executive Orders that has swept the 'Net recently.

-- No Spam Please (No_Spam_Please@anon_ymous.com), May 12, 1999.


Jolly,

Let me add to my answer part B):

Also, while you're at it, tell your Congressperson and Senators to start repealing some of the laws ceding emergency powers to the executive branch that you think properly belong in the legislative branch.

-- No Spam Please (No_Spam_Please@anon_ymous.com), May 12, 1999.


Spinmeister,

I'll not go tit-for-tat any further, however, I must point out that according to Title 50 War and National Defense, "It shall be unlawful for any person knowingly to combine, conspire, or agree with any other person to perform any act which would substantially contribute to the establishment within the United States of a totalitarian dictatorship, the direction and control of which is to be vested in, or exercised by or under the domination or control of, any foreign government."

Knowing that, can you explain to my why the current Chairman of the Joint Chiefs is a CFR member?

As to the other mention of all these gun-toting Americans who would never stand for Martial Law, can someone explain to me why there was not a single shot fired in Kingston, Texas? Home of the redneck, gunrack in every truck, don't tread on me American? If unmarked choppers with armed goons rapelling from them were hoovering in the downtown area of YOUR city, would you grab your gun and defend yourself...or turn on CNN to see what's happening? Don't gimmie this "it won't happen here" crap.

I'm as patriotic as the next guy...probably more so. Don't get me wrong. I just don't see Joe Six-Pack fighting back.

Don

-- Don Wegner (dwegner@cheyenneweb.com), May 12, 1999.


Actually, Uncle D, there is a provision in the Constitution for the suspension of Habeas Corpus. Article 1, section 9:

The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.

-- Ned (entaylor@cloudnet.com), May 12, 1999.


To: How Believes Ray Anymore,

Unless you know what you are saying, SHUT UP!

I was in OKC when the tornados came, there WAS martial law in the parts of the city that was damaged. I was there, I saw it! There were people looting, and the NG was there to TRY to stop it. The NG was there to control the situation, and to help people. Soooooo SHUT UP!

-- (cannot-say@this.time), May 12, 1999.


The Forum isn't the only group asking ....
[ For Educational Purposes Only ]

U.S. officials ask for closed doors

Wednesday, 12 May 1999 15:34 (GMT), (UPI Spotlight)

WASHINGTON, May 12 (UPI) - Top intelligence officials for the Justice Department and FBI have told a Senate panel (Wednesday) they will only testify in closed session about alleged Chinese nuclear spying, prompting the committee chairman to suggest that the order may have come from above.

Chairman Frank Murkowski, R-Alaska, said, "I'd like to know who changed their minds" about appearing in open session. "Was it Attorney General (Janet) Reno? FBI Director (Louis) Freeh? Or was it the White House? What are they trying to hide behind this veil of secrecy?"
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A lot going on these days? Somebody out procuring lotsa door locks  ;^)  ??

All distracting from getting ready for Y2K, all coming down, coverging to the same detonation point in time ...

Did Ed choose the right name, TimeBomb 2000, or what !!??!
Anybody out there still doubting martial law, coming soon to an intersection near you?

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-- Leska (allaha@earthlink.net), May 12, 1999.


Ned,

Thanks for the reminder!

Knew there was something wrong with the Civil-War-habeas argument about EO-suspension-of-Constitution, but couldn't recall the specifics.

-- No Spam Please (No_Spam_Please@anon_ymous.com), May 12, 1999.


Thanks Ned,

Learning something new here all the time. I guess that the Civil War would qualify as a time of rebellion ;)

Cheers,

-- Unc D (unkeed@yahoo.com), May 12, 1999.


Spam, no personal offense meant, but please realize:

1) Clinton doesn't give a shit about the Constitution, and is being sued by members of the House for involving US troops in a foreign war without Congressional consent (against the Constitution) AND for violating a 1972 treaty (i think it was called the War-and-Powers Act, or something like that). you can look this up at www.house.gov 2) Habeus Corpus does NOT cover the Marines, only the army, navy, and air force. the Marines are not constrained from firing on US civilians. 3) How many more "other-side" connections does Clinton have to have before the public finally begins to think he may not have our best interests in mind. it is becoming increasingly apparent that he can be bought, regardless of who gets hurt, and he is about to give away our military preparedness (he already has given away what may have been our biggest secret--nukes) after giving his friends the perfect reason to bomb us. please continue to seek education, but take your head out of the clouds and your eyes off of CNN long enough to let some of it sink in. Thank you.

-- sarah (qubr@aol.com), May 13, 1999.


Sarah,

>Clinton doesn't give a shit about the Constitution,

... but that doesn't give his EOs any of the special powers being erroneously attributed to them. Clinton's EOs _cannot_ suspend, amend, change, extend, or repeal any part of the Constitution.

My request is for distinguishing what Clinton may be trying (or suspected by his critics of wanting to try) to do from what Executive Orders actually have the power to do.

>Habeus Corpus does NOT cover the Marines, only the army, navy, and air force. the Marines are not constrained from firing on US civilians.

Perhaps you have confused "habeas corpus" with "posse comitatus". Habeas corpus has nothing to do with firing on civilians.

Habeas corpus, in the context of the U.S. Constitution, is (by my dictionary) a legal term, more properly habeas corpus ad subjiciendum. meaning "a writ for inquiring into the lawfulness of the restraint of a person who is imprisoned or detained in another's custody".

That is, if a person is arrested and jailed, a writ of habeas corpus is a demand that the authorities either (a) reveal the legal foundation for the arrest and jailing -- i.e., the crime with which the person is charged, or (b) free the person if they cannot show a legal foundation for continuing to detain him.

The U.S. Constitution allows this right (of a person to be released if legal foundation for imprisoning him cannot be shown when there is a habeas corpus request) to be suspended "when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it". This has nothing to do with the Marine Corps, Army, Navy, or Air Force specifically.

"Posse comitatus" concerns the prohibition of use of military personnel to perform law enforcement functions. I have read contentions that the Marine Corps is not subject to the Posse Comitatus law, but do not know whether they are correct.

>take your head out of the clouds and your eyes off of CNN long enough to let some of it sink in.

My head is not in the clouds. I rarely watch CNN -- it's been several months since I last did. It "sank in" with me a long time ago that there are a lot of ignorant or malicious people spreading misinformation about Executive Orders for the purpose of slandering Clinton, to the detriment of citizens' thoughtful consideration of his actual transgressions.

-- No Spam Please (No_Spam_Please@anon_ymous.com), May 13, 1999.


The FACT of the matter is that Klintoon is EVIL, and the nature of EVIL is to DESTROY. Or don't winny, weak-willed, treacherous, liberal, pansies, feel that RAPE, LYING UDER OATH, MURDER, AND TREASON ARE EVIL??? If you support Klintoon, the FACT OF THE MATTER is that you are on the side of EVIL, for it is CLEAR that his goal is to create a one world government in which all people are slaves undr EVIL. WAke UP and SEE the TRUTH. The "EVIL ONES"(the NWO) are winning, cause you're too stupid to see the danger. If you want to be SLAVES, go on ahead, but we, the True Patriots, the True Christians, and the True Americans, will not let your visions of a world of Darkness go unchalanged. Your "king" is lower than slime, and deserves to be KILLED for his EVIL WAR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY. If you'd see the danger instead of blindly following them to your doom, then we wouldn't be in this mess. You have obviously all chosen to follow evil, because "the dow is high, sex doesn't matter, honor is for fools, I'm happy, leave me alone." You are FOOLS, being decived as was JUDAS, as much as anyone who had made the choses you have. You will see that you're wrong, but by then it will be too late... The EVIL has grown too powerful, and will destroy you. Your FOOLS PARADISE will CRUMBLE into the HELL ON EARTH is TRULY IS!!!! So go ahead, continue on your currant path... I hope you enjoy your "rewards". Fools.

-- Crono (Crono@timesend.com), May 13, 1999.

>The solution, Hodel says, is for conservatives to lobby Congress and demand that it pass preemptive legislation this year: "Congress can mandate that hard copies of voter lists be compiled and made available by December 1999, and that these be used if necessary for the elections in 2000."

This is sort of funny. Look how fast Hodel switches from fear of federal power to advocacy of it. Conservatives want to use the federal government to preempt the states' rights and obligations to maintain voter registration lists ?????????

-- No Spam Please (No_Spam_Please@anon_ymous.com), May 13, 1999.


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