Will China Invade US On Jan 1st?

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Latly we been seeing lots of news about how Klinton is getting prepared for y2k martial law and imposition of the NEW WORLD ORDER come Jan 1st. Everyone knows this is coming but it comesing real fast now.

A couple days ago Klinton ordered bombing of Chinese Embassy in Surbia. Why? Well, it is no coincidence that Klinton treasonally sold China all our A-Bomb secrets. He is a big traitor everyone knows this. And it is no coincidence that Klinton staged school massacre and now is using that as excuse to take guns aways from folks.

Now China has our A-Bomb weapons and it has an excuse to invade us because of embassy bombing. Plus we will be defneselyess cause Klinton will have taken our guns. Once conquered Klinton will no doubt be appointed as martial law commander by Red Chinse, and there you have it, New World ORder.

Chinese Red Arym more primitive than ours and doesn't have Y2K bug so easy for them to attack and durstroy us then.

It is all clear now. Patriots, CHristians and DGIs get ready for the big one.

-- bubspa (bubsp21@aol.com), May 09, 1999



-- Daryll (twinck@wfeca.net), May 09, 1999.

Excellent post, Bubspa! I've been saying the exact same thing now for months!

There are rumors of advanced Chinese special-forces already in this country. Checking Y2K compliance and setting up rendevous points. My brother-in-law in Alabama says he saw Chinese people in his town last week, talking Chinese.

It is coming. Now everyone can see why Clinton should have been impeached. But the NWO is strong and they stopped it. Well, we're armed and we'll let them have it.

-- Nikola Kosiv (nicola@kosiv.com), May 09, 1999.

Good grief. There are some elements that are valid in all this but the blendered-logic they're strung together with makes it hardly matter.

PJ in TX

-- PJ Gaenir (fire@firedocs.com), May 09, 1999.

I couldn't agree more. This is all related. Unfortunately the mainstream jewish-controlled press isn't reporting this. They want to keep the sheep grazing peacefully until y2k hits and then - BOOM - we'll all be eating rice and fortune cookies.

Speaking of reports. There is a report of a joint Chinese-Russian brigade being trained in Idaho for operations with a secret Clinton brigade of Albanian "refuges". (Remember those 200,000 "refuges" Clinton is importing into our country??)

Also, a report that US Marines are stocking up on barbed wire and food supplies. Hello concentration camps!

Y2k is definitely coming quick. Lock and load.

-- Chuck Carl (ccarl@ibmx.net), May 09, 1999.

Well that is what this board is for! To spread the truth!

Thanks so much for this information. I showed it to folks here this morning and everyone agreed it made sense. We're going to double our food and ammo stores. The first Chinese or Alabanian that shows up in my county is dead meat.

-- Jack Walker (Jack_walker@yahoo.com), May 09, 1999.

This thread is so bizarre I'm beginning to wonder if the locals are making up names and posting all of this in irony.

PJ in TX

-- PJ Gaenir (fire@firedocs.com), May 09, 1999.

hee hee hee

Is the fact that this forum now has synthetic troll posts a sign that it is getting better or worse?

Surbia = suburban Serbia?

A-bomb secrets? Maybe Al Gore can sell them H-bomb secrets? I love it!

-- Ken Seger (kenseger@earthlink.net), May 09, 1999.

I think the more pertinent question is will the Chinese invade Taiwan, Will the U.S. try to stop them by force, and will the Chinese nuke L.A. if we do as they have said they would? Will the N. Koreans stage a simuletaneous invasion of S. Korea and Iraq reinvade Kuwait? Is everybody registered for the draft?

-- Nikoli Krushev (doomsday@y2000.com), May 09, 1999.

There is a good case to be made for the following;

China is TOAST because of Y2K.

They KNOW it.

They will draw a line in the sand over their embassy bombing.

They WILL NOT back down this time.

They have nothing to lose and THAT is the most important aspect of this situation. They are going down the drain and are now in a full scale 'use-it or lose-it situation'

Before the week is out they will issue an ultimatum to the US.

-- Paul Milne (fedinfo@halifax.com), May 09, 1999.


Sunday, May 09, 1999 16:57 UTC US bombers target China embassy in Belgrade for strikes.

LONDON, May 9 (Itar-Tass) - The strike on the Chinese embassy in Belgrade was made by super-advanced B-2 strategic bombers of the U.S. Air Force, which flew from the Whiteman base in Missouri. They dropped three heavy laser-guided bombs on the embassy building. The bombing was conducted from an altitude of over five kilometers, London Sunday newspapers reported today.

They also claimed that the building was also on the list of air raid targets. However, it is not understandable why it was put on the list of NATO targets. Most analysts are inclined to think that the building was put on the list of priority targets as a result of "an incomprehensible mistake" by the NATO operation planning division.

Nevertheless, some specialists believe that the strike on the Chinese embassy suddently exposed the existence of "a special direction" in the war against Yugoslavia, which is conducted only by the United States and has aims, different from those proclaimed by the NATO command.

The fact that the bombing of the building was conducted by a special force of the U.S. strategic aviation, which is not subordinated to the NATO command and which flew from the American territory, confirms this supposition.

Earlier, the Daily Telegraph newspaper reported, referring to military sources, that the U.S. conducts, in actual fact, two wars against Yugoslavia: The U.S. has another "closed" list of targets, along with the one submitted to NATO. Other NATO members, apart from Britain, are not notified of these targets.

-- pshannon (pshannon@inch.com), May 09, 1999.

Consider for a moment, "What if there was a bunker complex underneath that embassy building which the Chinese were allowing Milosovich & Co to use, thinking it wouldn't be hit, precisely because it was an embassy?" Then imagine that US intelligence systems found a building which had radio traffic coming out of it that indicated it was a command facility. And once located there would be target instructions generated and a strike orderred against that location.

Sound far-fetched? Not to me, because I saw such a system demonstrated five or so years ago. And since this can be an automated process, there wouldn't have to be a person to cross-reference the target coordinates to a map that might point out the building as the Chinese embassy. There would only be a "target disovered and located" message and set of geographic coordinates to program into the aircraft and weapons computers.

Such a system would work perfectly in the original use, locating targets for B-2s during an all-out nuclear war. No place is safe and every place is a target then. But there are "off-limits" places in this not-a-real-war and this is the kind of mistake that can result when you "play war" instead of fighting one for real.

Will this result in a Chinese invasion of the US? No, they can't manage an invasion of the US. China has the capability to nuke parts of the US, but they don't have the airlift or sealift required to stage an invasion. But Taiwan is a likely invasion target. As are Japan, Viet Nam and all of Korea (whether China's clients in the North like it or not). Whether this incident gives China the balls to say "Oh, yeah? Well watch this and try to do something about it!" and make such moves is another question.

One thought that strikes me is that perhaps this strike was meant as a warning to the Chinese by person(s) unknown inside the US military. What if the Yugoslavs were using a bunker in the Chinese embassy and the bombing orders were made knowing it was an embassy. They might have thought that since they own Clinton, that they had no concerns about the military being allowed to put bombs on their embassy and bunker. Whether this is a correct assesment of what occurred, I don't know. It is a possibility that the embassy was selected as a target by an automated system, if there was radio traffic coming from the site that indicated it was being used as a headquarters. If such was the case, why wasn't it caught as a mistake during a target review, or was it knowingly done as an example?


-- Wildweasel (vtmldm@epix.net), May 09, 1999.

Looks like a morphing cloning mutating troll(s) came biffying up this thread. Wanna make us all look nutso whacko? Just read the real news headlines. That'll skewer your piddley sense of hokum.

-- Leska (allaha@earthlink.net), May 09, 1999.

Surely there must be ONE doomer who will stand up to their racist brethren and denounce this claptrap. Who will it be?

"Unfortunately the mainstream jewish-controlled press isn't reporting this."

"There are rumors of advanced Chinese special-forces already in this country. Checking Y2K compliance and setting up rendevous points. My brother-in-law in Alabama says he saw Chinese people in his town last week, talking Chinese."

(...maybe the saddest thing ever said on this forum...)

"And it is no coincidence that Klinton staged school massacre and now is using that as excuse to take guns aways from folks."

-- Y2K Pro (2@641.com), May 09, 1999.

Give it a rest pro. Even a catfish wouldn't bite on that.

-- Nikoli Krushev (doomsday@y2000.com), May 09, 1999.

People, People:

Listen to me and write it down and curse me if you wish. I have been saying for several years and before Clinton was elected the we as a people would rue the day we elected him and his bunch. But, China invading USA no way. When you drop a coin it hits the ground it don't go upward. Its out of charactor for and meaningless to invade USA.

Clinton should be hung for treason along all those high IQs thats running around at his bidding.

But, China don't need the USA. They need the USA to be weak enough that they can invade the oil and mineral countries. They will, with Japan, Russia and all the countries under their control.

They will move so fast eastward that there will be no stopping them when they have oil, gold, silver, water and other things on their mind. That is where Clinton comes in, downgrade everything that The USA stands for and let your buddies build, plan and organize.

It will be soon, And that what make Y2K dangerous. Seemingly trying to hide Y2K from the american people, It is out in the Open.

Expect at least one devasting blow to The USA in some form to farther weaken our armed forces and financial markets. Not big enought to incite, but for potical gains.

I wouldn't want to be living within area with the eastern fresh water ports.

Almost every country that is mentioned is poluted with people and poisons, and Whats a few billion people for almost all the world.

WE showed them what life can be with TV, Phones, computers,and fancy super markets where you can purchase almost everything. Now, they want to be king of the hill producing everything.


-- Lon (Lon1937@aol.com), May 09, 1999.

Somebody really bored & sickly in the head, their momma probably out having a nice Mother's Day brunch, so grounded kiddie gets on the computer and posts limp-incendiary crapola, then tries to fan it and spread the stink and cart the droppings over to his friends to crow about. Grow up; there are real things to occupy oneself constructively.

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-- Leska (allaha@earthlink.net), May 09, 1999.


Y2k prairie dog cut and pasted those ludicrous in-jest statements from another thread initiated by his cyber other-self.

PD this is really getting rather old and very tired - if you want any of us to byte you had better do a LOT better than that.


-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), May 09, 1999.

Andy, have you *ever* met a conspiracy theory you didn't like? You could learn so much by simply looking up the meaning of the word 'preposterous.' Try it.

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), May 09, 1999.

I did - Merriams' says "Those who believe imported data is a bogus theory"...

Ya know, Flint, prepostrous though you think my theories are, they contain core truth, and I'm not the only one saying these things. Tell you something? I doubt it. You DO need an open mind to even attempt to get to grips with these matters and in that regard you've consistently shown yourself to be lacking.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), May 09, 1999.

My sources tell me that they will capture Starbuck, Washington [take some time to find that one on the map]. Then they will take over coffee distribution,; effectively paralyzing the country.This seems to be true. [hint; look in eastern WA].


-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), May 09, 1999.

Yeah, what is this racist crap anyway? You all are native born AMERICANS, huh? All G-d fearing Christians? Climb in a hole together. And don't come out.

-- Gia (Laureltree7@hotmail.com), May 09, 1999.


Spelling Test: can you spell satire; S-a-t-i-r-e. I can't either, but Bill Gates says that this is correct.


-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), May 09, 1999.

Nobody, and no country, in their right mind, would try to put an armed force on the ground in America. There are more guns in the hands of the public here, than any other place on earth. They already know, we are not sain.

-- FLAME AWAY (BLehman202@aol.com), May 09, 1999.

Well, you don't need to put a force into the US, mainland to accomplish what the Chinese need. They need the geopolitical space to be able to go get the "lost" provinces, as well as the minerals in the area.

While I do not ascribe to the theory under discussion, it is beginning to make a distressing amount of sense.

BTW Thanks WW for another pair of possible explanations. I REALLY didn't like the other logical explanations.


-- chuck, a Night Driver (rienzoo@en.com), May 09, 1999.

Andy regurgitated:

Y2k prairie dog cut and pasted those ludicrous in-jest statements from another thread initiated by his cyber other-self.

They were all from this thread smegma breath, and all posted by tabacky chewin', minority hating', trailer park livin', doomers - like yourself.

That fact that not one doomer objected to the statement about the "Jewish controlled media" is in itself astonishing.

Is this what doomer philosophy is all about - Hatred?

-- Y2K Pro (2@641.com), May 09, 1999.


I don't know what chemicals they have been spraying in the contrails above your house, but you had better start wearing a mask - you're definitely hallucinating.

-- @ (@@@.@), May 09, 1999.

Gia I don't know about, but really Y2K Pro, you can't spot satire, even exceedingly non-subtle pie-in-your-face satire, when it jumps in your lap? What are you smoking?


-- Ken Seger (kenseger@earthlink.net), May 09, 1999.

Satire is that which is practiced by people with IQs above room temperature - see the conundrum?

-- Y2K Pro (2@641.com), May 09, 1999.

Y2K Pro - So you actually honestly believe that was a serious post?

-- Ken Seger (kenseger@earthlink.net), May 09, 1999.


I've often toyed with the notion of posting a parody (satire, if you wish) of many of the opinions displayed here. And always I give up, because some people here (I won't mention Andy's name) post (and apparently actually believe) such absurd nonsense that it can hardly be exaggerated, even for effect.

If I were to post that ALL y2k bugs would be found and fixed and thoroughly tested before rollover, and that there would be NO effects of any kind, do you suppose this would be recognized as satire? You see, even the most ridiculous opinions are sincerely held by some people here (I won't mention y2k pro on this one either [g]).

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), May 09, 1999.

Flint - I stand corrected. You are correct, I am incorrect. It is more of a parody than a satire, unless one views that type of mindset as a vice (which can be strongly argued for!). You win today's G. Gordon Liddy award for correct language usage.

-- Ken Seger (kenseger@earthlink.net), May 09, 1999.

"They were all from this thread smegma breath, and all posted by tabacky chewin', minority hating', trailer park livin', doomers - like yourself."

You mean your alter ego :)

It was a joke, maroon.

As far as "the jewish controlled media" - this should read the Zionist controlled media - big difference. And you don't have to be Jewish to be a Zionist, most aren't. But you wouldn't know that, cause you don't know diddley. As you prove day by day.

Are you telling me, PeeDog, that the media ISN"T controlled?

Ever heard of D-notices in England?

Why isn't the Clinton sell-out to China mentioned in the media? Why wasn't it mentioned when the Chines premier was recently here visiting?

You are truly an asshole of EPIC proportions - not a clue about computers, not a clue about politics, not a clue about dick.

Back in your hole, varmint.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), May 09, 1999.


See what I mean?

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), May 09, 1999.

Y2kpro-- you probably meant "Cunundrum

lint- that would be "can't hardly

and again ..cognized by "satin

Andy-- that would be "truly EPIC proportions

-- spun@lright (mikeymac@uswest.net), May 09, 1999.

EVERYONE! Where is Jim Morrison when you need him...for the Dick Tracy decoder ring crowd he had a band called "The Doors". He sang a song with the following lyrics "when your strange faces come out of the rain". Respectfully submitted by The Walleye Guy (a card carrying member of a growing minority group entitled "People Who Still Have A Life)

-- Mark Howard (walleyemar@aol.com), May 10, 1999.

Lookee here, Cow-Patty posted this on Der Boonkah yesterday -- one of only four new threads. Boy, business is really slow over there these days -- 'cause they're all over here, posting under fake names -- notice all the "newbies"? If you look at Bubspa's style it's a dead ringer for Cow-Patty. Most of this Chinese thing is just the bonkers Boonkah trolls tweaking tails so they can go back under their bridge and show and tell how nutso we are. Ignore 'em!

http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb237006&MyNum=9 26284220&P=No&TL=926284220

Debunking Y2k webboard

The funniest conspiracy I have seen yet Sunday, 09-May-1999 17:10:20 writes:

And to think we are the ones that don't "Get it" This has got to be the funniest thing I have ever seen.


Could China be taking over the US? Secret training in Idaho? People speaking Chinese in Alabama?

Reminds of me of a classroom of elementary school children on the first day of school, passing around the awful information that they heard about the teacher from older brothers and sisters.


-- OutingsR (us@here.yar), May 10, 1999.

The more responses I read to idiot troll initiated threads such as this, the more I am convinced that we are becoming a forum of mindless children.

bubspa, Nikola Kosiv, Chuck Carl, Jack Walker are TROLLS! Am I the only one who sees that? It is the same person that comes here each weekend trying to get a rise out of the kooks on the Yourdon board. And without fail, he does.

I'm not sure what the opposite of "Idiot savant" is, but I am begining to think that Andy may be a good example of one.

Good morning and regards,

-- Mr Deedah (used2B@unkeeD.B4civility), May 10, 1999.


I realise full well that these are Trolls - it's pretty obvious even to me ;) - nevertheless, once one or two folks wade in with serious replies, the onus is on us to "rescue" the thread. Maybe we disagree. the point is we are going to get imbeciles on every thread. If we don't we are lucky thses days. Yeah, best to ignore them. Look at this thread though and you'll see what I mean. let them get their jollies but why let them prevent intelligent discourse whether the fools started the thread or not. You're never going to get a concerted defense Uncle.

There are two or three Chinese threads going now - invaded yes by Trolls but still some people are taking them seriously. Gimme a break Uncle.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), May 10, 1999.

Keep going Andy [g].

This is also posted on HOW will China invade the US thread

Look at a thread from March concerning the Panama Canal. China has been funding and influencing elections in Panama. We hand over the control of the Panama Canal Jan 1, 2000 and we have already begun moving out (military bases).

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000b zC

You neglecting something - James Carville has already been helping Chinese-funded politicians to compaign in the recent Panamanian elections. This will help consolidate their (the Red Chinese) influence over bases and port facilities already established in "commercial zones" at both ends of the canal.

Can you say "extortion"?

-- Robert A. Cook, P.E. (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), March 15, 1999.

Mr. K
***seeing China moving WELL before this embassy thing*** The above referenced thread also has a link (in the last post) to the China Daily Newspaper - check it out!

-- Mr. Kennedy (Mr.K@work.today), May 10, 1999.

As I have been very busy lately, I have not had the inclination to visit the China Daily News which was referenced in the previous above post. Just to check up on their daily news of the current events, I went to the site http://www.chinadaily.com/

Much to my unexpected surprise, it is now a web hosting site. They have either voluntarily or forcefully changed their website from posting China Newspaper articles to the web hosting service/facility. Verrrry interesting.....

Mr. K

-- Mr. Kennedy (Mr.K@work.today), May 10, 1999.

I live close to Whiteman Airforce Base, and jets and helicopters have a flight path directly over my house. This is a provable fact.

Now this will be harder to prove, but I'm sure they have recently dropped some Chinese ticks into my garden, and I'm under attack. I've used so much Pennyroyal on my bod, that my soul mate is threatening to defect. I'm being "durstroyed," which is much worse than being destroyed.

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), May 10, 1999.

Now this will be harder to prove, but I'm sure they have recently dropped some Chinese ticks into my garden, and I'm under attack

-- gildaTICK (tick@braindead.best), May 10, 1999.

The Russians and the Chinese both have plans drawn up to nuke/gas the USA and invade afterward. We have similar plans for them. They involve killing everyone with gas and bioweapons after the hardened targets are destroyed with nukes, then mopping up any incidental survivors with troops trained for that purpose. They have theirs and we have ours. We know more about Russian plans for this than the Chinese; the Russians know it's workable. The Chinese have a lot more troops, so it's even more workable for them. This WILL happen if these three superpowers go to full-on war against one another. We're not going to wait for them to do it first, and they aren't going to wait for us. It's not ideal, but as the nukes get "cleaner" and the bioweapon kill rate climbs into the 90th percentile, it becomes easier to contemplate. Personally, I think we have more than one wild card up our sleeve, and will "win" in this situation. Which is why we are so arrogant (willing to slap an embassy as -obvious- payback for nuclear espionage, for example).

Of course this is "crazy talk," if you get your new from the Media Cartel. But just humor me for the next decade or so...


-- Dano (bookem@blacksand.srf), May 10, 1999.

In order to invade the USA, China would require sufficient amphibious lift capability to move their troops. They don't even have enought to invade Taiwan at this time. (Source: various articles in the past year in the Proceedings of the US Naval Institute). This is a non-issue.

-- Mad Monk (madmonk@hawaiian.net), May 10, 1999.

Mad Monk,

If 98% of our population was dead from the Russian anthrax/ebola hybrid, they could do it with rowboats - take their time, make a cruise out of it. And there are many, many more bodies on their side for us to kill in this (or a similar, as yet unknown) way than for them to kill on our side.

Of course, this is all wild speculation, because, as we know, Rome is eternal...


-- Dano (bookem@blacksand.srf), May 10, 1999.

Interesting take, Dano.

(Source: various articles in the past year in the Proceedings of the US Naval Institute). This is a non-issue.

-- Mad Monk (madmonk@hawaiian.net), May 10, 1999.

This may be a non-issue to you. If they (China) have due influence in the Panama Canal area, they can just as well move in down there in a very small number, cut off the trade route, and kill us by trade asphyxiation.

Mr. K

-- Mr. Kennedy (Mr.K@home.tonight), May 10, 1999.

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