I've been away for quite some time. I left the forum, mostly because I let my emotions get the best of me. I found that my posts were becoming purely abusive due to my extreme frustration. I see that I missed out on the trend by a couple of weeks.

I'm hoping to get some input on how to deal with the immense frustration brought on by things like the Kia commercials. I just don't understand what is going on. The world seems so unstable.

-- d (d@dgi.old), May 06, 1999

Answers

d,

I feel your frustration - I recently took a few weeks away from the forum, which helped a little.

My view is that we are all here for a purpose, we are living in trying times to say the least, it's no accident you found this forum, it's no accident that you are asking hard questions and being hard on yourself and others, patience is certainly a precious commodity these days.

Strings are being pulled, a certain puppet is dancing, it's not just about y2k - there is far more at stake here.

Hang in here if you can - between the dross are some real nuggets of information. Worth the wade.

Later,

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), May 06, 1999.

Just a post from a car forum:

Posted by Dena on December 05, 1998 at 23:41:48: In Reply to: Sporage Owners Beware posted by Brian Randall on November 25, 1998 at 16:21:08: : To whom ever cares to read this message: : I purchased my 1997 KIA Sportage EX in August of 1997 after an extensive internet search. I used Auto-Buy-Tel and thought as I am sure everyone who buys the Sportage that I was getting the better value over RAV-4, CRV, or SideKick. : I could not anticipate the UNBELIEVABLE service problems that plague the Sportage. Maybe my Sportage is just lemon or maybe the product is inferior but here is my story to date. : Less than two months after my purchase, the electrical system started to malfunction. First, it was the windows then the theft deterrate system, and then the rearview mirrors. Next came the rear differiential, this went out in less than 4 months. : As I sit to write this e-mail, my Sportage is in the shop again. In about one year's time, my Sportage has been in and out of service 7 times! I have contacted everyone at KIA Motors America. The bottomline is that KIA will not re-purchase the vechicle nor will they replace it. If you are considering purchasing a KIA Sportage, my suggestion would be to think again. : The money you think that you will be saving will come back to bite you. You may end up like me--completely upside down in a vechicle that is at this point valued at less than half the pay-off. And the worst part is you really can't sue. That's right! Once you calm down, read the "Lemon Laws" for your state. You will clearly see that the manufacturer is under : no specific time frame or number of attempts in which to "fix" the automobile. But please don't take my word for it, call Ted Norris, Director of Consumer Affairs at KIA Motors America in Irvine, CA for yourseves 949/470-7000. KIA plays by a differient set of rules. : Finally, just remember the old saying, "if it sounds too good to be true--it probably is." The KIA Sportage is NOT a good value. : bdr
Link to the car tracker forum

Too, check out this statement from http://www.kia.com - Kia Motors America is based in Irvine, Calif. and is dedicated to the strategies of the parent company, Kia Motors Corp. of Seoul, South Korea.

So....I'd venture to say they don't care WHAT they tell us here in good ole' America.

Go to http://www.kia.com and let them know you think their ad sucks just like I did.
karen

-- karen (karen@karen.karen), May 06, 1999.

Thanks Andy,

I'm not giving up on anything. Tenacity man!! If all turns out well, I have a great number of skills that I would have never learned. I've discovered that shooting is a great sport and a whole lot of fun (reloading is a great hobby as well, I reload the .303, .223 and the .45 ACP). BTW, the .303 was designed to take out a horse at 600 yards... The SMLE Enfield can easily be found for $75 US or less.

This "Y2K thing" isn't over yet.

-- d (d@dgi.old), May 06, 1999.

Kia email,

"I just want you folks to know that I will never buy a Kia, thanks to your ad campaign. I am in the market for a new car and had been considering a Kia as a more cost effective choice over the Honda alternatives.

I will happily pay more money for a car whose manufacturer doesn't take a potential disaster as a joke. Perhaps now would be a good time to start a "Tornadoes are a joke" ad campaign. I hope that Y2K doesn't bring disaster. If it does, I hope that you have very good lawyers, because I will happily sign on to any suit that bears your name.

Ryan Walton Owner of any car that doesn't bear your emblem"

-- d (d@dgi.olf), May 06, 1999.

Bears, bares... Doh! Oh well, only an idiot would consider buying a Kia, so maybe I fit in.

-- d (d@dgi.old), May 06, 1999.

Dear KIA Managment,

For the fourteenth time, would you please tell me when my replacment fuel gizmo will arrive. Your previous responses stating that you were being overun by cannabilous North Korean army regulars seems a little farfetched to me, almost as bad as your previous excuse that Nuclear Scud missiles's had damaged your assembly line. Next you'll be tellimg me your factories had shut down due to some kind of Year 2000 incompatibility problem. Gimme a break, I know spin when I feel it.

-- Joe Isuzu (jjbeck@recycler.com), May 06, 1999.

Even StarTrek-Voyager "gi's". Janeways comment in Dec, 2000---"when the y2k bug didn't turn out a single light bulb, the people just _had_to listen to the huksters..."

-- Yes2Kia (youdon't@get.it), May 06, 1999.

KIA - Killed In Action - nuff said, maybe a class action in 3 years time :)

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), May 06, 1999.

Be careful, I happen to know the guy who's marrying her. Tim Hagan (wholy asside from the taxatious part) is a pretty good guy.

Chuck from Cuyahoga County

-- chuck, a Night Driver (rienzoo@en.com), May 06, 1999.

Awwww Chuck,

I had a bet with my husband that she was marrying Martin Milner (you know "Emergency" and "Route 66"? He was right, I was wrong. By the way, liked the "nomex undies" comment elsewhere- I still hang on to all my nomex stuff and haven't faced the heat in years.....still keep an old baked potato wrapper under the seat of my car too! This mommy business takes priority now! Enjoying your posts.....

Kristi

-- Kristi (Securx@Succeed.Net), May 06, 1999.