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Many filmmakers have discovered that the legend of the credit card financed film can lead to serious financial and personal problems if your film doesn't sell. What's your experience?

-- Maxie D. Collier (maxie@dvfilmmaker.com), April 30, 1999

Answers

don't do it. We'll actually, do it. Maybe...

I shot a short on 16mm film three years ago. I spent $3000.00 all on credit card.

For that money I could have bought a DV camera and had tons of footage. Instead, to save film stock we shut the camera off when each scene was over, missing tons of good stuff. At one point we were using 100 foot spools, which give us 2.5 min of footage. We spent more time switching film rolls than filming the movie.

I spent the money knowing that I wasn't going to get any of it back, so It wasn't a problem. I knew I'd have to pay it back.

I never edited on film. just a bad transfer to SVHS for the final edit. Now that I have an XL1 I don't need to buy film stock and processing. Get friends to be in the film (my friends are actors do not use friends that are not actors if you want to sell the film)and crew. Then you don't have much to spend anyway. In total the film and processing for my short ended up costing $2300.00 for 45 min of footage. In dv, that's $10.00

In recap. If you're not absolutely sure the film will sell, or you can't pay back your credit card without it selling, don't do it.

-- Thomas Koch (TomK@3cm.net), May 20, 1999.


With interest rates of credit cards being so high it isn't financially sound to borrow money, unless you can pay it back within the next couple of months. If you can, try a personal loan, the interest rates are lower.

-- Donald S. Belcastro (hardcoredon@hotmail.com), June 24, 1999.

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1: A company requiring funding either approaches Barbara Forman or like in most cases Barbara trolls for companies looking for funding. She then approaches you via email.

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EDITOR's Note: Research turns up additional addresses.

This company is fairly elusive. Check out these alternative addresses.

UNIVERSAL CORPORATE CONSULTING, L.L.C. (GEORGIA LIMITED LIABILITY) 1360 PEACHTREE ST NE STE 1200 ATLANTA, GA 30309

Control # K800818 Status ACTIVE/COMPLIANCE Filing Date 12/29/1997 Last AR Paid 02/28/2002 Jurisdiction GEORGIA

Registered Agent DAVID CUTHBERT Agent Address 7558 WATRES EDGE DR (How listed on the records, but no street exists. MORE likely Waters Edge Drive.) STONE MOUNTAIN, GA 30058 Agent County DEKALB

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