Y2K and Oil: Tell NBC what you think of the BIAS!

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Tell NBC what you think of their BIAS on Y2K, email ij.hudson@nbc.com

Just watched a one-sided news story on NBC about Y2K and Oil. They asked one Joe Public if he was going to fill up his gas tank before New Years and he said he wasn't. They had two experts, didn't have time to catch their names and organizations, but they said that everything would be fine. One woman said that the oil industry was 3/4s complete in its Y2K work. Unfortunately, there was no debate or counterpoint. They didn't even really explain what Y2K was or what other kinds of failures might happen. I think this kind of reporting is problematic. It's not good journalism and there's no objectivity.

Tell NBC what you think of their BIAS on Y2K, email ij.hudson@nbc.com

-- Stan Faryna (info@giglobal.com), April 29, 1999


Do you have any verifiable facts to dispute what NBC reported? Just because you do not like the facts does not mean you can change them. Good news is happening all around us regarding Y2K - get with the program...

-- Y2K Pro (2@641.com), April 29, 1999.

Y2K Pro,

Do you have a real name and a real email address?

Sincerely, Stan Faryna

-- Stan Faryna (info@giglobal.com), April 29, 1999.


NBC news' job is to report the news, not to create debates for the sake of debating. If there's been an accident, is it recumbent on NBC to find someone somewhere who never heard about it, to provide 'balance' because the accident *might* not have happened? The only obvious bias here is that *you* don't agree with the assessment presented. Now, who's biased again?

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), April 29, 1999.

Good manners are good to practice -- whether you are a Christian or not. If you don't believe me, refer to Aristotle's Nichomachean Ethics or Saint Thomas Aquinas' discussion of virtue in his Summa (according to your beliefs). I can also provide references for discussions on good manners in some of the other popular religions. Whether Y2K is bad or not, we will always be in need of good manners.

Flint, your example defeats your proposition that NBC news' job is to report the news. Concerning the Oil Industry and its Y2K work: there should be no news story because there are no new facts to report. Are you suggesting that a fact is not really a fact... anymore? There is, however, an abundance of opinions. I think you would agree that to present opinions as facts is problematic. To do so is nothing less than dishonest. This... this is my contention. I protest dishonesty.

What will happen in the coming months, on New Year's Eve, and beyond? I have no certain answer to this question. This is apparent in all my postings here. I welcome thoughtfulness on the subject and appreciate the insights and ideas of both those who think it will be bad and those who think that it will be business as usual. I also welcome any sincere and intelligent assurance that things will be fine; I do not wish for TEOTWAWKI. I hope and... I pray everyday for that Y2K will be a non event.

Sincerely, Stan Faryna

-- Stan Faryna (info@giglobal.com), April 29, 1999.

Y2K Pro,

You said: "Just because you do not like the facts does not mean you can change them."

What facts? Are you trying to say that what NBC tells us is facts?

The people at NBC are being paid by the SAME people that own the oil corporations. The days of investigative journalism are long gone.

You believe that everything will be fine with oil supply, because that's what NBC says right? Well I believe that you had better have a very fat wallet and a lot of patience if you plan to buy gasoline in the year 2000, because you are going to see the biggest scam in the history of the world being pulled off by oil corporations.

The new oil mergers are leading up to a monopolistic situation like the original Standard Oil which was broken up in the early 1900's due to anti-competitive practices. Since they have realized they cannot compete with smaller companies they are going to eliminate them and gain control of all the world's oil.

Military actions such as Kosovo and Iraq are being used to get control of foreign oil into the hands of United Nations mega-merger corporations, primarily British and American, of course. Arrangements with OPEC nations, military destruction of supply centers (Kosovo and Iraq), refinery explosions, are all being used to drive up the price per barrel, to destroy the smaller competition that won't be able to afford it. Ultimately the New World Order corporations will have total control of oil (and money within the financial banking sector), and in doing so will be able to decide who gets to use the oil to operate military forces, and who doesn't. If they don't give oil to other countries to fly jets or drive tanks, that pretty much wraps things up as far as world domination. MONEY and OIL. Control those and you control the WORLD.

Y2K is just going to make it that much easier for the New World Order to put their plan into effect. By controlling the media and controlling the so-called "shortages" that may or may not occur, it will allow them to further gain the upper hand over foreign sources, and eliminate competition. It WILL happen, and you can take that to the bank!

-- @ (@@@.@), April 29, 1999.

A real news report on Y2K and oil would have included possible problems with foreign oil producers, foreign port facilities, and ocean-going shipping.

Lloyd's of London seem to have considerable concern as to problems with shipping. See Lloyd's Register Articles for several links on this.

Incompetence may be as much in play as bias at NBC.

-- Tom Carey (tomcarey@mindspring.com), April 30, 1999.

Although, I'm not revealing any company secrets at all, due to non- disclosure and standard secrecy stuff, I will not give names and exact details.......Don't waste your time asking.

Large refinery type operation in cold climate. The official word is a lot of confidence in Y2K remediation efforts, however a strong emphasis on continued diligence.

Certain software packages must be replaced immediately, and cautious optimism is the picture right now.

Obviously concerned about the whole embedded system and systems interactivity scenario............Although continual improvements and changes are being constantly engineered, this is still a once in a lifetime event.

Haven't heard officially yet, however looks like the clocks will be advanced to December 31st on June 30th of this year.......the theory being that any problems that arise will be better handled in mid- summer rather than in mid-winter where extremely cold temperatures are the norm.........no, not Norm our beloved contributor!!

Will report back after the event.....if i'm still there. With Y2k on the horizon, all Information technology stuff will be frozen from July 1st until March of 2000.........who knows, I may be coding for Ebay or something like that by then.

-- oliveoil (oilman@oilplace.org), April 30, 1999.

Yeah. E-bay will be hiring in 3/00. And monkeys will fly out of my but.

-- humptydumpty (no.6@thevillage.com), April 30, 1999.

- @ (@@@.@)

I see you proved my point by providing not ONE fact to dispute NBCs coverage. Just more Booga-Booga NWO conspiracy nonsense. Thanks!

-- Y2K Pro (2@641.com), April 30, 1999.

Y2KP -

The last results from the industry put only 82% scheduled to complete remediation and testing by December. That indicates - by their own schedules and reporting (no independent verification, no lippage, and optimistic "public" numbers) that at least 18% of the industry will be affected one way or another. That value has not changed, and should be used "to start from" if no other - that is, report this value, and have the "oil rep's" dispute it.

Second - transportation is greatly threatened - unmmanned enginerooms dominate the industry, little remediation is on schedule and much is starting late overseas, and overseas refineries and deports are threatened - not only by the constant 2-3% embedded problem, but more by the processing problems - and these refineries and depots are more threatened by losing support from the local electric and water infrastructures that Mr. Koskinian is now claiming are very likely to fail in wide areas.

Third, the pumps and oil fields/gas fields are not yet complete (but are making progress) here and abroad in simply keeping the pipelines safely operating. Expect significant impacts from the failures that do occur, and hope that not too many to fail.

If oil cannot get to the shipping depots, it doesn't matter that the ships themselves cannot run.

-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), April 30, 1999.

Y2K Pro,

No, you proved your own point, because you have not provided any facts either. At least I draw my conclusions from what I know and see instead of just following Dan Rather like the mindless fruticake that you are.

-- @ (@@@.@), April 30, 1999.

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