On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:45:14 +0100, Dave Eastabrook
 wrote:



>Pendulum swings.  Nobody gives a stuff about y2k anymore, it's
>yesterday's news;  and that scares the sh*t out of me.



Me/2.  I think as a society we're slipping back into denial, and less
and less work will get done.  The decisions are still taken by those
who, basically, have no understanding of the technical aspects of the
problem.  They have seen few major problems and no major disasters as
yet (in large part because most failures have been downplayed or
covered up) and they have gone back to believing there is no problem
and that they can really just wait for "minor" problems and then
correct them.  Fix on failure has become the standard approach for
those large numbers of organizations which haven't even gotten started
yet.



And it's not just Y2K.  The world's economies continue to slide into
oblivion and nobody cares.  We have a major conflict in a highly
volatile part of europe, with the very real possibility of escalation
to a third world war, and most americans want to send in ground troops
and escalate the situation even further (instead of ending it in a
stalemate by arming and training the Serb's opponents).



I blame the pollyannas and government shills for this, directly and
personally!  Their irresponsible, emotional, unfounded and unrealistic
nonsense has recklessly endangered the lives of millions of innocent
people.  It really _will_ be worse, thanks to them.



There's an old joke about the optimistic pollyanna who jumps off the
top of the Empire State Building.  As he passes the secretary at the
first floor window he shouts "So far, so good"!  This should be the
motto for the pollys in this group.  And it doesn't even help to know
that their condition is terminal.



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For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they
will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have
not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.



(2Th 2:11-12)

-- a (a@a.a), April 22, 1999

Answers

The average jerk, unless his head is up his butt, has heard of Y2K by now. The average jerk depends on his leaders to tell him what to do and when (ba-aa-ah, ba-aa-ah [sheeple]). The average jerk deserves to get his head handed to him.

"Democracy is the theory that the average person knows what he wants and deserves to get it -- good and hard" (My recollection of an H.L.Mencken quote.)

-- A (A@AisA.com), April 22, 1999.

"The bomb will never go off. I speak as an expert in explosives."

--Admiral William Leahy, US Atomic Bomb Project.

-- Isetta (do_not_reply_@hotmail.com), April 22, 1999.

Do Infomagic's opinions still carry weight or has he been completely discredited? Seems I recall someone was tearing apart one of his essays. Cory hasn't posted any of his stuff recently, either.

-- maybe it won't (be@that.bad), April 22, 1999.

Smeared and mocked? Yes. Discredited? Tune in next year, same time, same station.

-- BigDog (BigDog@duffer.com), April 22, 1999.

It does not pay to leave a dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.

Tolkien

-- sue (deco100@aol.com), April 22, 1999.

Cory continues to use Infomagic as an example of an IT expert that believes that a total meltdown is not just probable, but inevitable. According to Infomagic, Cory will publish his next essay in a future WRP. In it, he will explain why the lack of an early panic, among other things, will result in y2k being worse than he predicted.

For the record, I do not think things will go Infomagic, but it remains a distinct possibility.

-- a (a@a.a), April 22, 1999.

a,

Thanks for that post. I always like to see what InfoMagic is saying. While I, too, hope he is wrong, he makes some very persuasive statements that are hard to knock down. So I factor in his opinions.

-- Gordon (gpconnolly@aol.com), April 22, 1999.

Society is like a flushing toilet. It goes around and around, but it is also sinking. And just as well. A talk show whined and asked,..send us some information...anything that comes to mind...on why those students would do such a thing in Colorado? Anyone look at what they listened to? Infomagic is sensing something...he is only sensing the inevitable. Society is like a flushing toilet. Only to look at TV shows then...and now. What do you see? The piper will get paid...what goes around comes around. As long as morals, decency, hard work, compassion, caring, honesty, morality continue to be words and not deeds, one should surely expect the worst. Y2K may be a catalyst...but in a positive world, it could be handled. In this one...it will be tragic. I have read the reports, I have listened and thought now for 6 months. No one knows how bad it will be. But in my profession, engineering, capital spending is slowing down...quickly.....and jobs are becoming scarce. I'm still employed...but the future looks uncertain at best. My hunch is that the vast money being spent on Y2K will be thrown down a sinkhole. Its like trying to patch an old car. Whatever you throw into it, you ain't gettin' back. I am in, as you can see, quite a pessimistic mood. Anyone got anything that might give me reason for optimism?

-- rick shade (Rickoshade@aol.com), April 22, 1999.

Here rick, its a placebo, but it always seems to give me a chuckle:

-- a (a@a.a), April 22, 1999.

Here rick, its a placebo, but it always seems to give me a chuckle:

-- a (a@a.a), April 22, 1999.

Three times is a charm...

-- a (a@a.a), April 22, 1999.

Rick,

You know it's all in how you look at it. One man's meat is another man's poison. There are still people all over the world that don't have a car, new or old, but do have a donkey, or a horse. And anything you throw into it, you're not getting back. But it will get you further down the road, now, won't it?

I heard a story some years ago, and it was about attitude. It goes like this: There was a social gathering at which two guys were talking. Guy 1 says to Guy 2, Gee that girl over there sure looks like an interesting person, do you know her? Guy 2 says, Sure I know her and you're right, she's a terrific person, go over and introduce yourself if you want. Guy 1 says, Oh I wouldn't want to just barge in like that, she might not like that, and then she might think I was too agressive a person, and then she wouldn't even want to talk to me, and then I would miss out on meeting someone who interests me. Guy 2 says, So now you have the NO, why not go try for the YES?

-- Gordon (gpconnolly@aol.com), April 22, 1999.

appreciate that Gordon...the right attitude would certainly help!!! thanks...

-- rick shade (Rickoshade@aol.com), April 22, 1999.

rickshade For optimism try St. John's Wart and vitamin B complex,or turn off T.V. have a good cry and get some sleep.

-- Betty Alice. (Barn266@aol.com), April 22, 1999.

http://www.teleport.com/~dkossy/conscorr.html

Nuff said about Infomagic.

-- Paul Davis (davisp1953@yahoo.com), April 23, 1999.

Ivan "inflake-o-magician" Mingham smokes too much dope.

ivan de-bunked and de-bunked again (by guess who?)

Why do you keep posting "flake" and "buttheads" material 'a'?

I think as penence, you should have that "y2k o.k." pic tatoo'd to your forehead after 1/1/00.

-- No Ivan Fan (another@bong.hit), April 23, 1999.

NoFan: I think Info will be right about some things and wrong about others, just as I think Paul Davis will be right about some things and wrong about others. Paul, you did say the Braves would win the world series this year, right?

-- a (a@a.a), April 23, 1999.