To those who has a job like myself holidays, weekends and so on, means nothing. Business as usual in the feild that Im in, we are up and running 7 days a week 365 days a year 3 shifts. For those who will be at work during Dec 31, 1999 into Jan 1 2000 how are you preparing for this task?

-- Lyn Truss (StormieLyn@webtv.com), April 18, 1999

Answers

I'll be at work, reporting on the rollover...

Scott Johnson
Editor,
y2ktoday

-- Scott Johnson (scojo@yahoo.com), April 18, 1999.

Dec. 31st is on a Friday and I do have to work that day but I'm not going to. I don't care what anyone says because I want to be with my family that day. And I don't even care if I lose my job! I guess you could say my job really isn't all that important since it's just data entry. Those jobs are a dime a dozen and $9.00/hr. aint much considering I have symptoms of Carpal Tunnal now. Besides, what difference does it make for people with jobs like mine if we don't go to work that day? I might even take that whole week off or maybe the whole damn month! Why not! It'll be around Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's. Might as well make it a REALLY special one this year! We may not ever be going back to our current jobs!

-- Julie Stansbery (flyer@primenet.com), April 18, 1999.

Julie, With that attitude, you may as well do your employer a favor and quit now. I'll bet your job performance is less than stellar, and your absentism rate is probably astronomical. I'm sure you'd be much happier sucking on a government tit...if you don't already. People like you are a big part of what's wrong with this country. You will never have the initiative to survive more than a 5 on the scale.

-- boss (Employees@business.com), April 18, 1999.

I am off from Dec.20 til Jan 11 for my main job. Teaching at a college has it's good sites :-. My own business will be shut down from Dec 20.1999 until Feb. 2000, fully paid for the 5 employees I have to help them cope with the rollover. Moreover, January's saleries are paid in cash on Dec. 20.1999 This is the least that I can do for people that DGI but have served me well over the last years

Rickjohn

-- rickjohn (rickjohn1@yashoo.com), April 18, 1999.

I'll be working my ass off doing my deliveries just so that your snotty nosed brats can break everything I gave them within a week. Damn kids.

-- Santa (jollyold@st.nick), April 18, 1999.

What the hell are you talking about you old coot? That's my night to turn over the calendar.

-- Papa (father@time.old), April 18, 1999.

Shut up both of you! Senile old shits, we bet you would forget your heads if your wives didn't remind you.

-- Elves (makingtoys@fornext.year), April 18, 1999.

Hey you guys knock it off. That's my night to shine!

-- Dick Clark (lookin@goodinmy.oldage), April 18, 1999.

As a way to make bills and child support I have a second job of delivering fo Domino's. As you would guess I have to work it, 5 to 3. Should be great fun.

-- PurpleDonkey (PurpleDonkey@zenmaster.com), April 18, 1999.

Hopefully working in the Caribbean running a tourist attraction for all those cruise ships full of DGI's & DWGI's.In the evening it will be CARNIVAL!!!!

-- Chris (griffen@globalnet.co.uk), April 18, 1999.

Julie: (re: your thoughts on work...) the old story comes to mind when St. Augustine was seen tilling his garden: He was ased what he would do if he were to learn that he would die that night. He thought a moment, and replied that he would continue this day tilling his garden...how stoic and meaningfull!!!

-- churchorganist (musicswede@webtv.net), April 18, 1999.

To Mr./Ms. Boss~

First of all, you obviously are stereo-typing which is very unfair. I'm NOT and NEVER HAVE BEEN on wellfare! And what's this, "People like you are a big part of what's wrong with this country"? I just laugh at you because you're just making generalizations based on your assumption that I'm on wellfare. Second of all, I AM A VERY HARD WORKER. Much harder than most people I work with who spend most of their day standing around bull shitting with their friends and co- workers. I am there to perform a particular function. Therefore, I don't waste my employers time or money. I do my damn job and then I go home to my friends and family with whom I'd rather spend my time with. I'm working this crap job for ONE thing. That's right - MONEY. The bills have to be paid. And lastly, initiave has nothing to do with what I said. PRIORITY is more appropriate! Get off your high horse and while you're at it, tell me about your wonderful job and how much work YOU actually do while you're there. Work is important but doing what you enjoy and being with those you love is even more important.

-- Julie (Flyer@primenet.com), April 19, 1999.

Dear Church Organist~

I appreciate your hidden suggestion. However, St. Augustine must have either REALLY loved his/her job, which I do not. Or St. Augustine did not have a family or any friends like most people. I'll take spending my last hours with them over working at my job any day!

-- Julie (Flyer@primenet.com), April 19, 1999.

I'll be running the night shift on a major complex of mainframes for a major airline - should be an eye opening experience. I am expecting trouble - most likeley from the network side, we have multiple land lines, satellite uplinks etc. worldwide through multiple carriers and SITA. Not worried about electricity - our UPS systems will cut in and we have stocked up on fuel for I believe three days or so. The normal complement of folks working the graveyard is about 15, on this particular night we are expecting 200 or so extra bodies getting in our way and shooting the breeze :) I'll be working 3 nights, starting on the Friday (New Years' Eve). I will be getting drunk as a skunk with my co-workers probably on Monday - if there are any bars or restaurants open by then :)

As I said - I expect trouble. That's why we will have circa 250 bodies on site.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 19, 1999.

P.S.

Anyone know if UPS systems have embedded chips in them? :)

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 19, 1999.

Yes Julie, you have made it perfectly clear...again...that you'd rather be home sitting on your butt than working. I'd still bet my bottom dollar that your company would be well rid of you. Your attitude stinks. Period. I have a strong work ethic,and a positive attitude. That's why I own a sucessful business and you never will. You don't have the maturity, the brains and most importantly the attitude. You are one of life's losers Julie.

-- Boss (employees@business.com), April 19, 1999.

Boss man,

"Yes Julie, you have made it perfectly clear...again...that you'd rather be home sitting on your butt than working. I'd still bet my bottom dollar that your company would be well rid of you. Your attitude stinks. Period. I have a strong work ethic,and a positive attitude. That's why I own a sucessful business and you never will. You don't have the maturity, the brains and most importantly the attitude. You are one of life's losers Julie."

You have got to be one of the BIGGEST ARSEHOLES it has been my unfortunate luck to come across.

What a weasel-headed little twerp you are.

Data entry Clerks like Julie are the life blood of IT - they do a fantastic job day in day out - no wonder she is suffering from carpal tunnel syndrome.

YOU on the other hand are suffering from carpal tunnel syndrome of what's left of you're sorry-assed smarmy, condescending, ignorant little brain.

I pity your wife.

I pity anyone who comes into contact with you.

Don't bother replying - you've already shown your true colours.

I think we all know who is the LOSER here "Boss-man" ...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 19, 1999.

Hey people what is going on. All I asked was who all will be working Dec 31 1999 into Jan 1,2000. I thought asking this question would help us all get a good feel for what others are doing that is in the same situation. You know the whole world don't work 9 to 5. But I had no idea that people would be so mean to each other regarding this simple question. If this is a small sample of what is to become of us when we are stress out about something we don't have a chance during the Y2K. And nothing is written in stone! We are free to express our feeling still in this country I thought. But to attack each other the way some have on this fourm is darn right mean. I apologize for any one that got upset regarding the questiion I asked. God bless you all.

-- Lyn Truss (StormieLyn@Webtv.net), April 19, 1999.

Lyn - such is life, I simply hated the way Boss-man attacked this young lady for no good reason. Everyone is entitled to take time off. The Millennium doesn't come around very often after all :)

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 19, 1999.

Think Boss is Y2K Pro and Doc Paulie.

Doc is a mean MF. Cuts nobody any slack period, and his stated mission is closing this board down.

Also Vinnie, probably.................

-- Lisa (lisa@work.now), April 19, 1999.

Hey, Andy, your New Year's Eve plans don't jive with your doomer outlook. You're an idiot. Do UPSs have embedded chips? LOL! If you don't know the answer to that, get the hell out of the operations room.

-- Andy's boss (yourboss@your.work), April 19, 1999.

Andy's boss (yourboss@your.work), April 19, 1999.

Notice the smiley on the end of the UPS sentence you Moron? Have a NICE day.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 19, 1999.

Andy, your lobotomy is showing.You say "Everyone is entitled to time off"

Granted. However, Julie said she is scheduled to work, but instead she's dumping on her company that day and perhaps for the whole month. Now, unless she's got 4 weeks vacation coming that will get her fired. (I'm sure her boss is just looking for any excuse to get rid of her sorry ass anyway.)

4 weeks vacation time requires a lot of seniority....more seniority than Julie will ever earn from any company. You either, I imagine.

Andy, you should marry Julie. I can picture it now. You and Julie and your 6 kids in Wal-Mart on a Saturday morning. All of you greasy because your just too damned lazy to bathe. And all of you fat, cause all you do is sit in front of the boob tube. (Did they have you in mind when they coined the phrase "boob tube"?) You roll your cart to the checkout (Kids screaming and grabbing things off the shelves.)You load the conveyer with cream pies, soda, and beer....lots of beer.Then you proudly whip out those food stamps. But, wait a minute, you can't pay for the beer with food stamps. No problem, you cashed the welefare check this morning. Then you all jump into the "78 Ford Pickup truck and head to your trailer. Cousin Bubba is comin' over to tonite to help drink that beer, and he'll be gettin' together with your oldest daughter.(12 year old Julie Tu) You'll be a grandpa/step-dad/2nd cousin 'afore you know it. You're a loser too Andy.

-- Boss (employees@business.com), April 19, 1999.

I thought my BOSS was a real dick-head. BOSS, you are a bigger part of what's wrong with this country, schmuck.

-- Wiseguy (got@it.gov), April 19, 1999.

Wiseguy....Another loser.

-- Boss (employees@business.com), April 19, 1999.

You tell'em boss. I'm a floor supervisor in a large manufacturing plant. It is amazing what they will say and do to get a day...hell, even an hour off work. Most of them won't know what to do if the lights go out. They don't understand self-suffiency, at all. Just give me, give me, give me.

-- Works Hard (works@job.com), April 19, 1999.

now a trailer trash troll
chum chum the trawlers are busy


-- looking for (troll@fly.paper), April 19, 1999.

I wonder what rate data entry is billed at. Maybe 25 an hour. Julis gets 9, maybe 7 for overhead. Boss takes 9 for sitting on his fat ass in his big office.

-- Wiseguy (got@it.gov), April 19, 1999.

Lyn,

Its a very valid question and its sad to see responses like Boss Troll gum up a perfectly reasonable request.

The companies and organizations that show care and concern for their employees, who make the extra effort to help them understand various Y2K issues, and then encourage them to prepare so theyll feel secure in coming in to work, are the ones that will command loyalty and respect from employees. They are also less likely to indiscriminately float pink slips when the bottom line suffers too.

Companies, and bosses, who have not earned respect, will likely not receive it.

People are entitled to choose for themselves, what is more important in their lives.

I live in Silicon Valley. My next door neighbor is an Executive for a large heavy metal computer corporation. In addition to being the Y2K head tech honcho, he recently shared, in an over-the-fence- conversation, that he has a draft letter on his desk about Y2K. It will be sent out to all employees. His agony is in trying to decide what to say about Y2K and how long he should recommend they prepare for. (He was also asked by the Governor of California to be part of the Y2K Advisory Group, but was too busy, and assigned the task to one of his subordinates). Unlike Koskinen, and the rest of the government, his responsibility is to see the company remains open, operational and is well staffed. So, whatever it takes, to help his employees, is what hell ultimately recommend.

Personally, if Im not working at whatever Im doing that weekend, Ill be prepared to show up at the local community center, if volunteer help is required.

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), April 19, 1999.

Wiseguy

Obviously you, Andy and Julie are all cut from the same cloth. Create an adversarial relationship with any boss you ever have, whine about your job, and tell everyone how "put upon" you are. Poor whiney, sniveling babies. Bet none of you has ever put in a 70 hour work week. You couldn't miss those HEE HAW reruns.

-- Boss (employees@business.com), April 19, 1999.

Julie/Piglet:

"Chose a job that you love and never work another day in your life!"

-- Carp A. Deim (seizeit@now!.com), April 19, 1999.

READ: "choose" not chose.

-- Carp A. Deim (seizeit@now!.com), April 19, 1999.

Carp,

You are so right! But, some just don't want to work...period.

-- Boss (employees@business.com), April 19, 1999.

Better yet, become your own boss; then just take the last two weeks of the year off!

-- Carp A. Deim (seizeit@now!.com), April 19, 1999.

Carp...There's that employee mentality again. Bosses don't become bosses by taking days off. We work as as many days and as many hours as it takes to run our businesses. We create jobs for people like Julie and Andy. We pay them a fair wage,give them a good working environment...hold their hand, and baby them, so they can jerk us around, and try to run the business in the ground. We're fortunate in our company to have some great people, but we've had the Julies and Andys too. We cut them from the herd. They cause discontent, fight and argue with the other employees,(remember Julie's remark about the other employees at the water fountain) are undependable and just generally a pain in everybody's ass.

-- Boss (employees@business.com), April 19, 1999.

Boss/BOSSTROLL/Jackass!:

I can't believe I am even responding to you. I think you spelled your name backwards More appropriate=ssob (sour son of bitch)

I busted my _ass_ to get where I am. I now take time off WHEN and AS LONG as I like! I hire COMPETENT people who are WELL PAID to run things. YOU show your true colors as a top-notch ASSHOLE when your speak of employees that way. What a wretched life you must have!

When I have an employee with an attitude problem, I sit them down and ask them why they don't go do something they _really_ like, instead of going through life bitter at the "establishment". They either stay and become happier people, or they go, and I wish them well. In fact I have given several "the boot" because their personality was one of "_I_want to call the shots". I could see they needed to be on their own; several are now running small businesses -- successfully, I might add!

The whole point of my post to Julie is that you don't have to stay somewhere you don't like being.

-- Carp A. Deim (seizeit@now!.com), April 19, 1999.

Like Dr. Laura: the entrepreneur who models carpet on the side.

-- carpet diem (but@don't.get_stuck), April 19, 1999.

Well-adjusted people Work to Live, they don't Live to Work. 70 hour (work-)weeks are for those who can't get a life. Fortunate people, doing something they enjoy, aren't *work*ing. I enjoyed my profession (IT) way more before the suits and bean-counters took over. Slug jobs *are* a dime-a-dozen (and what else can you get for a dime anymore?) and workers therein are seen as interchangeable parts and not valued and *certainly* not respected. Betcha 'boss'(if actually anyone's boss & not merely some delusional troll) has phenomenal employee('hireling') turnover, with low (morale &)productivity to boot. Doin' it to yourself, bozo(apologies to Larry Harmon). This thread can't be reasonably discussed with present troll. *I* wouldn't work coming on to the millennium if I felt that my safety or the personal safety of my family were at risk. Some areas are more certain of hazard, obviously, but this is not a case for brinksmanship. If in doubt, make other plans. If your employer is reasonable, let him/her know(don't ask, *tell*) that you will not work. If 'boss' is your boss, no consideration would go unpunished so just noshow. Julie most likely does more (blue-collar) work in one day than 'boss'(corporate tit?) or boss' water-cooler buddies do in a (howevermany hour) week.

-- Evil Roy (EvilRoy@NoSpam.com), April 19, 1999.

My, What a lame-assed bunch you are. You people don't have a clue what it takes to be something or somebody in this world...you know nothing of contibuting. Notice how you all nearly stubbed your fingers on the keyboard so you could be the first to post that you weren't going to work that night, and also to give someone who's boss hell? You are all a bunch of malcontent, ner-do wells, and of course.....LOSERS. It's disgusting the way you all pick every y2k report to pieces...not to gain info as you allege...but to try and convince yourselves that yes, it will be TEOTWAWKI. It's obvious to anyone with an open mind what's going on. You can't make it in this world, so you're hoping y2k will bring it all down....how pathetic. Me. I'm happy. I'm content. I'm secure and I'm outa here. I don't associate with losers.

-- Boss (employees@business.com), April 19, 1999.

Lyn,

I work for a computer services company, and at this point we plan on SOP. We have always had a company holiday for New Years, with a half-day on the 31st if the 1st falls on a work day. This year we will shut down our mainframe and PC network on 1999-12-30 after the month-end backups are done. Tech support and operations will be in early on 2000-01-03 to power everything back up (and hope for the best!).

Boss,

I have loved programming since my first job in 1968. I have been at my current job for 14 years, mostly because my boss understands that a job is a give and take deal. I have worked 70 hour weeks. I know that the following week, if things are going well, I can look forward to a few days of comp time. As long as I can be reached if trouble shows up, he doesn't have a problem with this. Every year I have "carried over" most of my sick days, and at least a few vacation days. I have worked for people that are, well, as Wiseguy says, dick-heads. In these cases, I made sure to take every sick day, every vacation day, and a few days without pay just so I didn't have to see the SOB, before I quit. I suggest that you adjust your attitude. <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), April 19, 1999.

Lyn,

I work for a computer services company, and at this point we plan on SOP. We have always had a company holiday for New Years, with a half-day on the 31st if the 1st falls on a work day. This year we will shut down our mainframe and PC network on 1999-12-30 after the month-end backups are done. Tech support and operations will be in early on 2000-01-03 to power everything back up (and hope for the best!).

Boss,

I have loved programming since my first job in 1968. I have been at my current job for 14 years, mostly because my boss understands that a job is a give and take deal. I have worked 70 hour weeks. I know that the following week, if things are going well, I can look forward to a few days of comp time. As long as I can be reached if trouble shows up, he doesn't have a problem with this. Every year I have "carried over" most of my sick days, and at least a few vacation days. I have worked for people that are, well, as Wiseguy says, dick-heads. In these cases, I made sure to take every sick day, every vacation day, and a few days without pay just so I didn't have to see the SOB, before I quit. I suggest that you make a major attitude adjustment. <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), April 19, 1999.

What gives? I got the "dupe" message, so I changed the last few words, but it got posted anyway??? Hummmm, sorry about that...
-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), April 19, 1999.

Boss: Two words for you: SHUT UP.

As for myself, I have already scheduled to take my two weeks of vacation I am alloted a year the last two weeks of the year. Same for my husband.

Boss is the true loser. I laughed when I read that line about 70 hours a week. What a sucker. I work 40 hours a week, make good money, same for my husband. We come home and enjoy our house, our daughter, friends, extended family, hobbies, each other's company. You are a miserable little twit who obviously has no life whatsoever. And it is you who is sucking on the bitter corporate tit. I find it sad I even share the same planet with such a miserable bitter excuse for a human being.

-- preparing (preparing@home.com), April 19, 1999.