The Council On Foreign Relations And Weapons Of War

From: roundtable The CFR and Weapons of War

4-17-99

On Tuesday April 13, 1999 Council on Foreign Relations member President BJ Clinton announced his intention to nominate Council on Foreign Relations member Robert J. Einhorn to be Assistant Secretary for Nonproliferation at the Department of State.

If the purpose of an Assistant Secretary for Nonproliferation is to increase weapons proliferation then Einhorn is a good choice. America's Council on Foreign Relations, Britain's Royal Institute of International Affairs, and their branch organizations in other nations including the Bilderberg Group, have done more to cause the proliferation of weapons of war then any other organization in history.

Ever hear of the Psychological Strategy Board? I learned of it when researching Council on Foreign Relations member Henry Kissinger. The architect of the Psychological Strategy Board was a Council on Foreign Relations member Gordon Gray.Gray's consultant was Henry Kissinger, paid political consultant to the Rockefeller family. Gray was heir to the R. J. Reynolds tobacco fortune, a lawyer, a politician, a veteran of World War Two, a publishing executive, a broadcasting executive, an advertising executive, President of the University of North Carolina, and an intimate part of the intelligence community during the terms of Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, and Ford.

"Gray board" became a common phrase in Washington. The Psychological Strategy Board, established by Harry S. Truman on 20 June 1951, was the first "Gray Board. " Another "Gray Board" was the Psychological Warfare Board. Their purpose was to gear psychological dimensions into foreign policy considerations. The Psychological Strategy and Warfare boards coordinated carefully planned psycho-political operations to control public opinion at home and abroad. The aim was to obtain the cooperation of Congress and the public to achieve Council on Foreign Relations foreign policy goals. Council on Foreign Relations policy goals were designed to achieve the largest military industrial complex in history.

Often the foreign policy goals were not in the best interest of the American people. In 1954, a "Gray Board" recommended nuclear scientist Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer be denied reinstatement as a government consultant on atomic energy. Oppenheimer, the "father of the atom bomb", was an opponent of the routine operation of nuclear generating plants and dared to point out that such plants produce a much more deadly pollution than either heat or air pollution.

The Council on Foreign Relations wanted a world in which "conventional" technology was nuclear technology. By spreading "peaceful" uses of atomic energy across the globe, most nations would possess the wherewithal to manufacture nuclear weapons. Foreign Policy would be framed within a tension filled environment of Mutually Assured Destruction resulting in a state of perpetual warfare. Maintaining a state of perpetual warfare would allow Council on Foreign Relations medicine, munitions, media, energy, banking and food industries to maximize their profits.

The board held, by a vote of 2 to 1, with Mr. Gray in the majority, that reinstatement of Oppenheimer's clearance would not be in the interest of national security. Revoking Oppenheimer's clearance damaged his credibility as a nuclear expert and effectively robbed Americans of an alternative view of the dangers of nuclear proliferation and nuclear power. Revoking Oppenheimer's clearance sent a warning to other anti-nuclear scientists that the same thing could happen to them. Silencing men like Robert Oppenheimer gave the Russians time to develop a nuclear capability creating the tension filled environment the Council on Foreign Relations hoped to achieve.

J. Robert Oppenheimer had directed the Institute for Advanced Study for 7 years when the "Gray Board" stripped him of his security clearance. The "Gray Board" wanted Oppenheimer fired from the Institute. The Institute trustees and faculty refused to do this. Oppenheimer would continue on as director for the next 12 years. Oppenheimer was a big drinker. After his public humiliation the drinking got worse and much of Oppenheimer's time from then on was spent in an alcoholic daze.

The Institute for Advanced Study is a fish-bowl where virtually all the great figures of twentieth-century physics and mathematics are housed, observed, and influenced by Council on Foreign Relations members.The Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton is a small part of a power structure established between America's Council on Foreign Relations and Britain's Royal Institute of International Affairs.

In 1928 Council on Foreign Relations member Abraham Flexner organized The Institute for Advanced Study using money put up by Louis Bamberger and his sister, Caroline Bamberger Flud. Flexner worked for the Carnegie Foundation; Rockefeller's General Education Board; and served as a Rhodes Memorial Lecturer at Oxford Universities All Souls College. At All Souls College Flexner worked with Tom Jones, an active member of the Royal Institute of International Affairs. Flexner and Jones based the plans for the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton upon All Souls College. Flexner was fascinated by the teachings of the ancient Greek philosopher Plato and cast the Institute for Advanced Study in the Platonic mold. Flexner directed the Institute from 1930-1939.

The Institute is divided into four schools -- Mathematics, Natural Sciences, Historical Sciences, and Social Science. At any one time there are about 200 people in residence. The usual length of stay is one or two years. The institute has a yearly operating budget of over $10 million, paid out of a $100 million endowment and income derived from investments. Institute for Advanced Study scholars included Albert Einstein, Kurt Godel, Robert Oppenheimer, Niels Bhor, P.A.M. Dirac, Wolfgang Pauli, Abraham Pais, Murray Gell-Mann, C. N. Yang, T. D. Lee.

Institute for Advanced Study Social Scientists and mass communication theorists are active in psychological warfare projects. Institute for Advanced Study member DeWitt Poole was a psychological warfare specialist who founded and directed the Foreign Nationalities Branch of the Office of Strategic Services. In 1937 Poole founded Public Opinion Quarterly (POQ) at Princeton University. Poole was president of the CIA's largest single propaganda effort , the National Committee for a Free Europe. The project was funded by a CIA financed organization called the Free Europe Fund. The Free Europe fund was directed by Council on Foreign Relations member Frank Stanton. Stanton was a CBS executive and longtime director of Radio Free Europe.

The Council on Foreign Relations began to take control of the Department of State on September 12, 1939. On that day Hamilton Fish Armstrong, Editor of Foreign Affairs, and Walter H. Mallory, Executive Director of the Council on Foreign Relations paid a visit to the State Department. The Council offered such aid as might be useful and appropriate in view of the outbreak of the war in Europe. The Council proposed to form groups of experts to proceed with research in four general areas; Security, Armaments, Economic and Financial Problems, Political Problems, and Territorial Problems. From 1939-1945 Hamilton Fish Armstrong was an Executive director of a Council on Foreign Relations project called The War and Peace Studies. The wartime work of the Council was confidential.

In February 1941, the relationship between the Council and the Department of State changed. The Council on Foreign Relations officially took control of the State Department. The Department of State established a special division, the Division of Special Research. It was organized just like the Council on Foreign Relations War and Peace Studies group. It was divided into Economic, Political, Territorial and Security Sections. The Research Secretaries serving with the Council groups were hired by the State Department to work in the new division. These men also were permitted to continue serving as Research Secretaries to their respective Council groups. Leo Pasvolsky was appointed Director of Research.

In 1942 the relationship between the Department of State and the Council on Foreign Relations was strengthened again. The Department organized an Advisory Committee on Postwar Foreign Policies. The Chairman was Secretary Cordell Hull, the vice chairman was Under Secretary Sumner Wells, Dr. Leo Pasvolsky ( director of the Division of Special Research) was appointed its Executive Officer. Several experts were brought in from outside the Department. The outside experts were Council on Foreign Relations members War and Peace Studies group; Hamilton Fish Armstrong, Isaiah Bowman, Benjamin V. Cohen, Norman H. Davis, and James T. Shotwell.

The War and Peace Studies group held 362 meetings at Council House, the Council on Foreign Relations headquarters. Council House, was purchased in 1929 with $300,000 from money made when the Council fortuitously liquidated their portfolio shortly before the stock market crash. Council House was a five-story townhouse at 45 East 63 rd Street, next-door to the family residence of Franklin D. Roosevelt, then Governor of New York. In April 1945 the Council moved to a four-story mansion on the corner of 68th Street and Park Avenue,that had been the home of Harold Irving Pratt, a Standard Oil of New Jersey director, and Council member since 1923. Pratt's widow donated the home to the Council in 1944. The residence was converted into offices, meeting rooms, and an institutional library with money raised by John D. Rockefeller Jr. Over the next five decades the Council acquired and expand into four adjoining townhouses. Today one third of the block between Park and Madison has been integrated into a working headquarters. The Pratt House was aptly named -- Pratt derived from the Old English word "proett" meaning trick, is the English nickname for a cunning trickster. Officially the work of the War and Peace Studies group ended with the establishment of the United Nations in 1945. Unofficially the work continued.

Between 1954-55 the Council on Foreign Relations convened a discussion group on Nuclear Weapons and Foreign Policy. The group was directed by Council on Foreign Relations members Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., McGeorge Bundy, and William Yandell Elliott. Kissinger took a leave of absence from the Harvard faculty to work with the group. Like the War and Peace studies the group worked at the Harold Pratt House, Council on Foreign Relations headquarters, in New York City. In 1957 a book titled Nuclear Weapons and Foreign Policy was published. Kissinger was credited as author. The book reached the list of national best sellers and earned Kissinger a national reputation.

The work of the Nuclear Weapons and Foreign Policy Group continued for over two decades. With the help of the Royal Institute of International Affairs and other Council on Foreign Relations branch organizations the Russians became an enemy "the free world" could loath, fear, and hate, and would willingly go to war against. Strategic policies for spreading massive nuclear proliferation resulted in the policy of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD), creating a state of controlled insanity in a tension filled environment stalemated by fear, providing an excuse to rationalize trillion dollar defense budgets that would maximize profits of Council on Foreign Relations controlled industries of war.

Kissinger went on to publish 12 articles in the Council on Foreign Relations magazine Foreign Affairs. In 1964 a major Council study of relations between the United States and Communist China began. In 1969 the Council published the study groups findings as "The United States and China in World Affairs." The Council on Foreign Relations advocated that America should, "abandon its effort to maintain the fiction that the Nationalist regime is the government of China." The publication came just as Richard Nixon, an outspoken foe of the Communist Chinese became President. The same year Kissinger entered government as President Nixon's National Security advisor. Nixon appointed over 100 Council on Foreign Relations members to his administration [ see CFR members in Nixon administration at http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/2807/CFRnixon.html ].

In 1971 Kissinger and Council on Foreign Relations member Winston Lord went on a secret mission to Beijing to make official contact with the communist regime. Nixon followed in 1972. Lord served as President of the Council on Foreign Relations from 1977 to 1985. Lord became President Reagan's ambassador to the People's Republic of China. Kissinger's successor as secretary of state, Council on Foreign Relations member Cyrus R. Vance would complete normalization of diplomatic relations between the United States and China in 1978.

In 1954, after the final French defeat at Dien Bien Phu, the Council on Foreign Relations convened a study group that examined Vietnam. Ngo Dinh Diem, an obscure Vietnamese exile, was invited to the meetings. Diem became the American-sponsored president of South Vietnam(1956). In 1963 during a civil war he was overthrown and executed. From 1964-1968 America would be drawn into a war that would be used to divide and conquer the most educated generation America ever produced. A generation of baby-boomers whose parents had fought the war to end all wars.

During the years 1964-1968 the Council remained formally silent in regard while the Vietnam war tore America apart internally and isolated America from other nations. After the disastrous Tet Offensive in 1968 talk of starting truce negotiations began and the Council of Foreign Relations decided it was time to go public and take control of the situation. The Council on Foreign Relations controls public opinion by controlling all divergent sides of an issue. Council on Foreign Relations member W. Anthony Lake was a member of Kissinger's staff. In 1970 Lake abruptly resigned in protest to Kissinger's "hawk" like policies. Lake became director of a Council on Foreign Relations project to study the Vietnam war. Twenty-two well-known American and foreign authors belonging to the Council on Foreign Relations and its branch organizations in other countries were commissioned to write a series of essays to examine both the war policy and it effects of the policy on American society. Authors included Irving Kristol, Earl C. Ravenal, Maxwell Taylor, Paul C. Warnke, Richard Holbrooke, Leslie H. Gelb, Morton H. Halprin, John G. Tower, and Hubert Humphrey. In 1976 an anthology tilted the Vietnam Legacy was published. In conclusion to his introduction Lake wrote,

"The Vietnam experience may have so damaged American confidence that it intensifies what could be a nationalistic reaction to problems that can only be solved through international action. The dangerous irony is that the global crisis in food, energy, and population could itself push Americans in a nationalistic direction, as it comes more and more to intrude into our everyday lives. The United States is discovering, after decades of what seemed like relative immunity from the economic and social consequence of events abroad, that it is just another nation - tremendously powerful, but almost as vulnerable to others as they have been to us."

The dangerous irony is that the Vietnam experience was in all likely hood a carefully planed Council on Foreign Relations Psycho-political operation meant to weaken America's confidence in itself as a nation and push it toward accepting rule by an international regime and one-world government. Lake would become national security adviser to Council on Foreign Relations President BJ Clinton.

Although Kissinger had been a "hawk" in pursuit of the war in Vietnam, he received a Nobel Peace Prize (1973) for his role in the Vietnam cease-fire. His negotiating skill also led to a cease-fire between Israel and Egypt, and the disengagement of their troops after the 1973 Arab-Israeli War. Kissinger continued in office after Council on Foreign Relations member Gerald R. Ford succeeded (1974) to the presidency.

Following revelations of his role in secret bombings in Cambodia, illegal wiretaps, and covert Central Intelligence Agency operations in Chile and elsewhere, his reputation suffered but he retired to a lucrative career as a lecturer and consultant. He headed a bipartisan committee on Central America for President Ronald Reagan in 1983. In later years he appeared occasionally on television as a commentator on world affairs, and he returned to his earlier role as a student of political history with such works as Diplomacy (1994).

An article announcing Council on Foreign Relations member BJ Clinton's intention to nominate Einhorn can be found at:

http://www.usnewswire.com:80/topnews/Current_Releases/0413-126.htm

The Article updated with links to the Council on Foreign Relations follows:

[ Council on Foreign Relations member ] Clinton Nominates [ Council on Foreign Relations member ]Einhorn to State Department Post U.S. Newswire 13 Apr 16:06

[ Council on Foreign Relations member ] Clinton Nominates [ Council on Foreign Relations member ] Einhorn to State Department Post To: National Desk Contact: White House Press Office, 202-456-2100

WASHINGTON, April 13 /U.S. Newswire/ -- [ Council on Foreign Relations member ] President Clinton today announced his intention to nominate [ Council on Foreign Relations member ] Robert J. Einhorn to be Assistant Secretary for Nonproliferation at the Department of State.

Einhorn, of the District of Columbia, currently serves as the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Nonproliferation in the Bureau of Political-Military Affairs at the Department of State, where he is responsible for areas such as nuclear, chemical, biological and missile nonproliferation, as well as regional nonproliferation issues. Einhorn has also been a Senior Advisor in the Department's Policy Planning Staff, dealing with similar security and arms control matters.

He has worked in the U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament Agency on such topics as strategic arms reductions, nuclear testing limits and chemical and biological weapons constraints. In addition to his public service, Einhorn has written a number of pieces on arms control issues and is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations as well as the International Institute of Strategic Studies.

[ Council on Foreign Relations member ] Einhorn received his B.A. in Government from Cornell University and his M.P.A. in International Relations from the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton University.

The Assistant Secretary for Nonproliferation at the Department of State assists the Secretary and reports to the Under Secretary for Arms Control and International Security Affairs in the planning and execution of the Department's responsibilities in the areas of nonproliferation and report controls.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 18, 1999

Answers

Andy,

Looks like you've done a bit of creative editing, eh? Clinton - Council on Foreign Relations Member President?? That is a load of crap.

-- @ (@@@.@), April 18, 1999.

"You may be interested to know who paid for the importation of Nazis into American central intelligence, the military, and industry? Three groups: The first was "The Sovereign Military Order of Malta" (SMOM), perhaps the most powerful reactionary segment of European aristocracy, that for almost a thousand years, starting with the crusades in the Twelfth Century, funded military operations against countries and ideas considered a threat to its power; Second was the Nazi war chest that was largely funneled through the Vatican and the Rockefeller owned Chase Manhattan Bank, whose Paris branch conducted business as usual throughout the Nazi occupation of France, and thirdly, some of us and our parents--American taxpayers.

Moreover, during this period, the Council on Foreign Relations, along with the CIA, grew in power under the leadership of Nelson Rockefeller, and in 1955, while serving as President Eisenhower's assistant for international affairs, Rockefeller invited Kissinger to discuss national security issues at the Quantico (Virginia) Marine Base. Following their meeting, according to Walter Isaacson's biography of Kissinger, the diplomat became Rockefeller's closest intellectual associate, and soon after, Kissinger authored several military proposals for Eisenhower to consider. Unimpressed, Eisenhower turned them down.

As a result, Rockefeller sent Eisenhower his resignation and then launched a Special Studies Project that explored the critical choices America faced militarily in the coming years. Kissinger agreed to direct this new project and published a 468-page book on his findings. The treatise proposed that tactical nuclear weapons be developed and a bomb shelter [be built] in every house in preparation for limited thermonuclear war. The willingness to engage in nuclear war when necessary is part of the price of our freedom, Kissinger argued.

So those of you my age can recall the anxiety grade school students felt while drilling for possible nuclear attacks. You can thank Kissinger and the Rockefeller-led military- industrialists for this "price for freedom."

Eisenhower, you may remember, warned America that the gravest threat to world security, democracy, and even spirituality, was the growing military industrial complex. And the Rockefellers and Kissinger played leading roles in its evil expansion. Bent on creating what President Bush openly heralded as a "New World Order," few people realize the current international alignment of economic powers is a direct result of actualizing Henry Kissinger's contemporary manifesto--a tribute to the Sovereign Military Order of Malta--entitled "The Meaning of History." In this Kissinger 1955 Harvard doctoral thesis he argues that the concept of peace on earth is naive. Peace must be secured by the creation of small wars around the planet on a continuing basis so as to maintain an international order of economic powers, and of course, keep the military industrialists happy."

Leonard G. Horowitz, D.M.D., M.A., M.P.H.

Kissinger-Rockefeller-AIDS. txt

-- @ (@@@.@), April 18, 1999.

Oh really a? :)

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 18, 1999.

"On Tuesday April 13, 1999 Council on Foreign Relations member President BJ Clinton..."

Re-read the sentence a...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 18, 1999.

Andy, Yes, really! Clinton is too naive to even know the part he plays in the bigger picture, let alone be consciously involved in it. It is high time the American public started doing their homework and learning what the hell is happening instead of allowing themselves to be distracted by media soap operas. You are at least as guilty as Clinton for supporting the corporate facism which is taking over the world.

-- @ (@@@.@), April 18, 1999.

Read the sentence?? Where did you get the sentence, or did you create it yourself? This is typical of how blind the American public is to the real players in the story.

-- @ (@@@.@), April 18, 1999.

a, I don't know who you are but you obviously don't know much about me or my own views.

"Clinton is too naive to even know the part he plays in the bigger picture, let alone be consciously involved in it."

I find this statement so naieve as to be laughable if it wasn't so sad. You're on the right track a but seriously underestimate Clinton.

"It is high time the American public started doing their homework and learning what the hell is happening instead of allowing themselves to be distracted by media soap operas."

I agree with you 100%.

"You are at least as guilty as Clinton for supporting the corporate facism which is taking over the world."

Now here you've got me - how do you arrive at this wayward conclusion? In what way do I support corporate facism? Are you on some sort of drugs?

In case you didn't know, BJ Clinton IS a member of the CFR... do a little more research before shooting from the hip...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 18, 1999.

I didn't write, or edit, the piece.

Link at

http://www.sightings.com/politics2/council.htm

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 18, 1999.

Here is the article you cited, and you seem to have done some creative editing:

link

-- @ (@@@.@), April 18, 1999.

HAAHHH HA HA HA !!!!! SIGHTINGS.COM??? HA - That explains it!!!

Andy - you want to talk about laughable - that is a geocities private site! Wake up! It's called PROPOGANDA! You are falling victim to the same crap as most of the stupid public.

-- @ (@@@.@), April 18, 1999.

OK - here is the source of the confusion - you just showed me the link from the White house, yes? It doesn't mention that Clinton is a _member_ of the CFR does it? What does this say to you?

I posted a link, from the sightings page, which they got in turn from roundtable@geocities.com, which oviously edited the fact that BJ Clinton IS a member of the CFR.

I did not edit anything.

Anyhow, the fact is, BJC IS a member of the CFR. Not many people know this.

Now you do.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 18, 1999.

So, you find it laughable that Sightings says that Clinton is a member of the CFR?

Now is he or isn't he? - you tell me. I have heard that he is from other sources. Do you know something I don't know?

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 18, 1999.

Andy,

You still don't get it do you?

The whole reason for Kenneth Starr and the facists to go digging up the dirt on Clinton was to distract you from what is really happening while the New World Order advances their agenda in other parts of the world.

"Such biased reporting, as much as anything, confuses people and distracts the masses from hearing their urgent warnings and/or confronting the real insidious threats to democracy and world peace.

With the public decoyed in this way, the final phases of the international corporate megamergers and military_medical_industrial institutionalized genocide continues.

Indeed, the financial elite who control America's yellow presses, and the news media in general, have far more to gain by deceiving and distracting people than they might from honestly reporting the news. They can continue to make vast fortunes off of humanity's suffering without being exposed.

Josef Goebbels would indeed be proud of this situation. The Nazi propaganda machine is alive and well, and sustained by the allegedly intelligent, well-meaning, anti-defamationists who affirm "it should never happen again!"

It's happening right now before everyone's eyes. Very few see history repeating itself, or the holocaust ongoing, thanks largely to the deceptive distractive political propaganda,"

Leonard G. Horowitz, D.M.D., M.A., M.P.H.

Quit wasting your time on U.F.O.'s and tabloid articles and start facing reality. Go here and start reading something that has been thoroughly researched:

@@@.@), April 18, 1999.

link: ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/tetra/pub/

-- @ (@@@.@), April 18, 1999.

Aaaaack! (Sorry, off topic) -- I just finished my reading of this thread with a big ad picture of BILL GATES at the bottom. And I thought Y2K was making me feel kinda ill ....

PJ in TX

-- PJ Gaenir (fire@firedocs.com), April 18, 1999.

a,

thanks for the link.

Mr. Horowitz - fine fellow - AIDS, Ebola to to name two. Listen to him on the SIGHTINGS show (is this propaganda? I don't think so - you areunder the misapprehension that sightings is all about UFO's and ghosts - not true - there is much more to the show - did you hear the recent stuff from Whitely? ) Horowitz - read some of his work. Will read more.

Andy, You still don't get it do you?

####### Yes, I do. #######

The whole reason for Kenneth Starr and the facists to go digging up the dirt on Clinton was to distract you from what is really happening while the New World Order advances their agenda in other parts of the world.

####### I think this is a reasonable conclusion. #######

"Such biased reporting, as much as anything, confuses people and distracts the masses from hearing their urgent warnings and/or confronting the real insidious threats to democracy and world peace.

####### Agree 100% #######

With the public decoyed in this way, the final phases of the international corporate megamergers and military_medical_industrial institutionalized genocide continues.

Indeed, the financial elite who control America's yellow presses, and the news media in general, have far more to gain by deceiving and distracting people than they might from honestly reporting the news. They can continue to make vast fortunes off of humanity's suffering without being exposed.

Josef Goebbels would indeed be proud of this situation. The Nazi propaganda machine is alive and well, and sustained by the allegedly intelligent, well-meaning, anti-defamationists who affirm "it should never happen again!"

It's happening right now before everyone's eyes. Very few see history repeating itself, or the holocaust ongoing, thanks largely to the deceptive distractive political propaganda,"

Leonard G. Horowitz, D.M.D., M.A., M.P.H.

####### Agree with him 100%. I've been saying the same myself for ages on this forum and made myself quite unpopular - this subject is OFF TOPIC don't you know :) #######

Quit wasting your time on U.F.O.'s and tabloid articles and start facing reality. Go here and start reading something that has been thoroughly researched:

####### See above. #######

I can assure you that BJC is a CFR'er.

Later,

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 18, 1999.

Andy, I know you're a smart guy from other posts, but I'm just getting so sick of people whining Clinton this, Clinton that. We wasted an entire year worrying about what he does with his pecker! This kind of distraction is exactly the kind of thing the Illuminati hope to achieve through their control of the media.

The real people we need to watch out for are the Banking elite (Rothschilds), Industry and Medical elite (Rockefellers), whose Standard Oil, by the way, is currently reaming the people with price increases while they are worried about what Clinton is doing with Kosovo. It is all going perfectly according to their plan, and we need to stop buying into it before it is too late.

-- @ (@@@.@), April 18, 1999.

Re his pecker - yep - he's a perfect foil for the puppetmasters don't you think? That's why he was chosen - good job.

"The real people we need to watch out for are the Banking elite (Rothschilds), Industry and Medical elite (Rockefellers), whose Standard Oil, by the way, is currently reaming the people with price increases while they are worried about what Clinton is doing with Kosovo. It is all going perfectly according to their plan, and we need to stop buying into it before it is too late."

Again you are right on the money here.

The problem as I see it though is that it is far too late to stop them - it really is a fait accompli - a few years ago it may have been possible but with the millennium fast approaching they have all the aces up their sleeves, not least of which is the Y2K card.

Think about it. They want instability and war. The herd can be thinned, control can be re-established even tighter than it is now, they can go in and mop up afterwards when there is a "buying opportunity" - hence the power play in Yugoslavia, wait, there will be more, watch the Middle East, the Spratly (sp) Islands, Taiwan, North Korea, Japan, India/Pakistan - and you can bet that agent provocateurs (of whom old BJC is the chief 007 and a half) will be stirring up as much trouble as possible.

The stock market is in their pockets, they can collapse it at will, they have kept gold at rock bottom prices for ages now no matter what happens in the real world which would normally trigger an increase.

And finally we have y2k. They have let it fester - they know how bad it's going to be. No resources have been allocated to it here or abroad - the silence id deafening from the Red House - where's the inventor of the internet Al Gore? - there will be plenty of "buying opportunities" in the years ahead. Many countries will go bankrupt - corporations and alliances will move in for the economic kill. Oh yes, they have it all planned to a tee.

If y2k is not as bad as they want, why, it can be made worse. Terrorism - cyber and nuclear/bilogical - will be the order of the day. We are already being primed for this - subtle and not so subtle hints and warnings - wait and see. I don't think people realise how easy it is to create havoc with people in the right places. Key satellites mysteriously malfunction at rollover, SWIFT goes haywire, key hubs go up the swannee - blame it on y2k - there are all manner of possibilities and they have thought of them all.

Oh yes a, I get it loud and clear.

PROBLEM / REACTION / SOLUTION

They created and exacerbated the problem.

They milk and hone the reaction of the public.

They will come in with a solution to the instability, financial and social chaos, war -

We are heading for a one world government, a microchipped population, a single currency - the whole enchilada ... it's all too pat, anyone who has their eyes open can see the signs, and the pace is accelerating...

Hang on, it's going to be a wild ride.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 18, 1999.

By the way Len Horowitz can be heard on this link

http://www.broadcast.com/shows/endoftheline/99archives.stm

February 8th 1999

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 18, 1999.

The Ramboulliet Agreement: www.alb-net.com/kcc/interim.htm

-- KoFE (your@town.USA), April 18, 1999.

And don't forget the bakers organization. After all, they control the bread, right? And bread is the 'staff of life'. BEWARE THE EVIL BAKERS.

Andy you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are around the bend. Are you trolling or do you really believe this pile of hokum? I would just love to hear your views on the alien crash in New Mexico and the 'coincidental' invention of the transistor. After all, anyone knows the guys at Bell Labs just ain't that smart. Who understands that Solid State Theory anyhow?

-- No Way I want my name on this thread (b@silly.com), April 18, 1999.

bsilly,

I could not particularly care what you think, make your own way in life, believe what you want to believe, no skin off my nose.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 18, 1999.

Andy,

Just to follow up on last night, I did a bit more checking and David Icke speculates that Clinton is a CFR member. However, he also indicates that as in all Illuminati heirarchies, it is often only those at the very top level that are aware of the ultimate goals. Clinton is definitely not one of the big shots (he's too dumb to be that evil!) in the CFR if he is even a member, as seen at their site:

http://www.forei gnrelations.org/public/bd.html

Not suprisingly though, near the bottom, rather inconspicously mentioned, is of course our old friend;

David Rockefeller, Honorary Chairman

-- @ (@@@.@), April 18, 1999.

a,

Yep - Icke has good sources and I consider him to be reliable, I have also heard the same from a couple of others in the MWO research game.

I checked out the site yesterday and found no mention of Clinton (as expected...)

BTW on the subject of Icke - if you haven't done so already - check out his latest book "The Biggest Secret" - it is an ongoing work, with pieces of the puzzle beings lotted in as time goes by.

Also see Dano's thread he just posted - right on the money - as you know this forum has been well infiltrated - the usual tactic is that of bsilly above - ridicule - the mention of space aliens (see above) is de rigeur - all in all quite predictable, and a little amusing.

Catch you later,

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 18, 1999.

Thanks Andy,

I'll check it out - didn't know he was working on a new one. I refer to "and the Truth ..." quite often, the most recent updated reprint being the one that came out last year, but this kind of information does need to be constantly updated as witnessed with the Kosovo situation. By the way, if you have a copy of the "Truth.." take a look at p.434-436. Icke basically predicted this Kosovo event, and the "Allied Rapid Reaction Corps" (AARC) squadrons which we have recently seen practicing excercises in Texas. He really knows what is going on!

-- @ (@@@.@), April 18, 1999.

AND ALL OF THE ABOVE HAS WHAT, SPECIFICALLY TO DO WITH YYY222KKK???

-- K Stevens (kstevens@turn_the_damn_pix_off.com), April 18, 1999.

k stevens,

you are a complete and utter moron to ask such a question.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 18, 1999.

Yes a, he certainly does - the new book is a mind-blower. He has been banned from the Art Bell show (surprise surprise :) ), but you can catch his recent appearance on the www.sightings.com realaudio archives - an excellent 2 hours or so of information.

I'll check out those pages.

Later,

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 18, 1999.

Yes, ANDY

... you spelled "Spratly" right!

-- K Stevens (kstevens@turn_the_damn_pix_off.com), April 18, 1999.

I thought so!

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 18, 1999.

Yeah Andy, right, they have to pay people to make fun of silly season stuff. Don't like aliens? OK - please tell us how the Trilateral Commission, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Death Camp Doctors all tie together. Pretty please?

Look you nutcase, if the govt. gave a hairy rats ass about that silly crap they would find some reason to shut down the idiots spreading that junk tomorrow morning. AND GUESS WHAT - no one would care. The two generic ways to arrest anyone who is bothering someone in power are child molestation and drug abuse. Both are very easy to frame you for - it happens all the time on the local county and sheriff level. Why has it not happened to the spreaders of the good old fish oil? Because they are nuts - thats all. And no one gives a shit about nuts and goof balls.

-- NO WAY I AM PUTTING MY NAME ON THIS THREAD (b@silly.com), April 18, 1999.

Ya know...

You REALLY make a LOT of sense.

Later,

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 18, 1999.