I was cruising through a report listing the Gary North's, Ed Yourdon's, and others who are so influential and helpful regarding the effects of Y2K. As a cruiser, I have yet to really decide what I believe. I am at the 60% stage...a real depression, bank-run, problematic scenario (especially in view of the inflated stock market and long overdue corrections surely at hand) But one person I have yet to read about, but is quoted often, is Infomagic. I believe he is a programmer who believes in a total collapse. Anyone have a link to him?

-- rick shade (Rickoshade@aol.com), March 21, 1999

Answers

Check out this link to Cory Hamasaki's DC Weather Reports. His first essay was in WRP100.

DC Weather Reports

Ray

-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), March 21, 1999.

Here is a mirror site link that has this particular issue:

WRP Mirror Site

Ray

-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), March 21, 1999.

After reading his reports...I quickly retrieved a Corona...albeit without a lime....it was certainly more soothing than what I read. You see, most of the replies and thought on this forum are back and forth jabs, at a time when we need to absorb and weigh the facts. It is clear to me now that we are dealing with a bad situation. Most on this forum, and most in the country...would POO-poo people like Infomagic. But in absorbing all of this.....I keep weighing what influential and knowledgeable people are saying and doing...such as the statement from Alan Greenspan.."99% compliancy by the banks isn't good enough"...or that Henry Kissinger is removing his money from the banks later this year.... In view of the overinflated and long over-due deflation...and everything weighed carefully and without emotion....I am convinced Y2K is going to be a bad ride. The thing that will make it so bad is that the people are in such moral decay. Unlike the 20's and 30's...when a man would work...now..they will take. Alas...I believe too, that no preparation is adequate...reliance on God, will be the only sure bet.....could this be a prelude to Armageddon? Could it be a trigger to the Great Tribulation? hmmmmm...maybe we ought to listen to those door-knockers......lock and load, and hoarding food will not protect you.....Remember the Scripture...."neither their gold nor their silver will be able to deliver them in the day of ...."

-- rick shade (Rickoshade@aol.com), March 21, 1999.

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-- loserseverywhere (what@flakedot.com), March 21, 1999.

I like Infomagic and await his next article.

-- dinosaur (dinosaur@williams-net.com), March 21, 1999.

Mr. Shade, I think you are mistaken that most on this forum poo-poo Infomagic and you haven't participated on this forum long enough to even make that assumption. Just by the mere fact that you asked who Infomagic was tells me you are a newbie. One thing you must learn before you start assessing what anyone believes or does not believe on any BB is to educate yourself first, lurk awhile and get the feel of what is going on. Since you are at 60% in believing Y2K will be a big problem you are right where a lot of people on this forum are at. However, scroll down to the bottom of the last thread on this BB and start reading the "Older Messages By Category." I think you will have your eyes opened wider than you may want them to be. Stick around and learn.

-- bardou (bardou@baloney.com), March 22, 1999.

i already have my eyes opened more than I want them to be....who in the world would wish this? Appreciate the responses.... a newbie...

-- rick shade (Rickoshade@aol.com), March 22, 1999.

I must say when I read Infomagics mathematical analysis of the cumulative effects of system failures I rushed to buy several years of non hybrid seeds and Conibear traps. I pray that Infomagic is too pessimistic in his views. But the more I look at the extreme division of labor in our society, and how few folks know how to do things other than their daily job, the more I fear that Infomagic may just be correct. What I find most troubling are statements like these that I get from friends and family: "there is nothing you can write to convince me that y2k is any problem." "I cannot imagine what would happen to prevent grocery stores from stocking their shelves." "I don't have time to read the (Ed Yourdon's) book." Sometimes they just never e-mail me again! 'Nuf said.

-- Les Holladay (holladayl@aol.com), March 22, 1999.

-- Y2K Pro (2@641.com), March 22, 1999 commented: "The above nonsense was spouted by the infomagic dullard last September. Hmmm, as I look around, I don't see a "full scale global depression". Do you?"

Been to Southeast Asia recently, how about Japan or Brazil? Who do you suppose is next, the biggest debtor nation in the history of the world I suspect.

You may very well turn out to be the DULLARD.

Ray

-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), March 22, 1999.

Hey, Y2K Pro, if you want to call people names and hang tags on them, have the courage to do it to their face. Infomagic doesn't post here. If you want to debate his work, fine, but it takes very little courage to call him names when he doesn't read it. Might say that it's the cowardly way out. In fact, I will say it.

You might want to consider that last fall -- at the time Infomagic was predicting a severe market fall -- there was a massive intervention to protect a speculation firm, LTCM (can you say gambling?), from losses that would have brought down the entire market. In a truly free market that market would have collapsed. Now, with that manipulation, it will just take longer. That doesn't make Infomagic wrong -- just a poor market timer. It puts him in good company.

But, since your only posts here have been geared to trash spewing, we really couldn't expect anything astute out of you, could we?

-- let's (trash@y2k.pro), March 22, 1999.

He is on the Infomagic ISP, just like me. It'd be nice if people referred to him as other than Infomagic, because even I have received email asking if I'm Y2000@infomagic.com. Here is his finger info:

Login name: y2000 In real life: Ivan Mingham Directory: /home/email/mingham Shell: /etc/ftponly Never logged in. No unread mail No Plan.

-- Mark Ives (mives@infomagic.com), March 23, 1999.

Y2k Pro-

First of all, how can you look around and see anything when you're suffering from probably the worst case of rectal/crainial inversion that I've ever seen. Also, this wonderful global economy that you worship has been built on nothing more than immense amounts of debt on all levels and soon the day of reckoning will come for you and all the other ignorant, arrogant fools that will never see it coming. Just like the yuppies of yester'year your days ot denying reality will cease in the blink of a worthless stock option.

-- saveamerica (gfc40@hotmail.com), October 08, 1999.