I remember....

The 70's, there was not enough oil to support the world untill 1990.....

Acid Rain would melt all of the concrete by 2000...

Yet I still drive a gas powered auto up US 101 (concrete) to work each day.....

Why am I spending thousands of dollars on Solar, Generators, Food, Water Storage, Guns......

What if mankind figures this out again and just keeps on going like that ever ready bunny?????

What if it is all ok??? How do I recover the expense?

DWGI (BISA) (Don't want to get it but is still afraid)

-- Spent to Much (Poor@nomoney.com), March 21, 1999

Answers

If Y2K is a 1, you are prepared for the next earthquake!

-- old sailor (old@sailor.com), March 21, 1999.

Which would allow you to sleep better at night. Knowing what you know and not preparing or knowing what you know and being preapred. Once you learn about Y2k, whether you beleive or not, it remains with you.

Every person, once hearing about Y2k, will be asking themselves the same question as you , me and the rest of us have asked ourselves. It is a decision only you can make and the degree you will prepare.

Recover your expense? What is the price of peace of mind.

-- Linda A. (adahi@muhlon.com), March 21, 1999.

Yep I agree Spent,

But, we'll have to see.

Since you mentioned EverReady, I can't resist sharing a discovery with you.

I've been gathering Nicad batteries, and I picked up a pack of EverReady "D" sized Nicads at Walmart.

Upon opening the package, they seemed to be *very* lightweight. Unable to resist, I took one of these apart, and discovered that most of the "D" size battery was empty shell! The actual battery inside was smaller and shorter than a "C" battery. The positive terminal was a thin post sticking up to allow it to fit the plastic wrapper.

What this means is that although you think you're buying a "D" size battery, what you're really getting is closer to an "AA".

To say the least, I'm sincerely disappointed that a supposedly reputable company like EverReady would stoop to what amounts to FRAUD!

So, I'm now boycotting all EverReady products, and suggest you do the same!

Jolly dislikes liars.

-- Jollyprez (jolly@prez.com), March 21, 1999.

Jollyprez

LOL Someone on a recent thread said the same thing about the C cell hiding inside the D cells... so it's true eh? Also the rechargeable Nicds in stores just don't hold a charge long enough. Supposedly it's about 1/2 the capacity of alkalines. But the ones I used to use (yes Everreadys), I swear they would only last 10% of an alkaline. Sometimes I almost think that these rechargeable Nicds that are available in stores are only there as "decoys" to get us to keep using the throwaway alkalines!--maybe because once you try them, you get so fed up with their short charge times, you happily go back to throwing away alkalines.

It wasn't until Y2k preps and I started looking at the intersecting worlds of ham radio, solar, and alternative energy, that I learned about high-capacity rechargeable Nicds. I have acquired a whole bunch of these from RealGoods and C. Crane Co. - here's hoping they live up to their reputation. For example, the high capacity D cell Nicd has a 4000 mA capacity. The "popular" version of the Nicd has only 1200 mA. (same as the C cell.... hmmm....)

I also now have information from various sources about the "care and feeding" of Nicds. Now I know it's not just plug and play. Hope this will also help me to get the most out of them.

Spent too much I know exactly what you mean. I too sometimes have that feeling this is all going to just blow over and then I'll have a whole bunch of "stuff" to sell, or eat... or keep because I like it.

-- Debbie (dbspence@usa.net), March 21, 1999.

I'm thinking the same thing): Lots of money going out, Stress, Depression And what am I forgeting ):

So I'm going countryfied! I'm going to garden , Use a woodstove and just role with a simpler lifestyle :) Good luck to all of you! I Really think we're going to need this stuff!

-- Susan (Thinks@thesame.com), March 21, 1999.

Jollyprez, go get yourself the Radio Shack "Hi-Capacity" nicads - the D-cells are rated at a full 4 amp/hours, the C's 1.2 A/h. Expensive, about $7.00 *per cell* in the D size, but well worth it.

-- sparks (wireless@home.com), March 21, 1999.

Thanks for tidbits.

I've already discovered Real Goods - that's how I detected the scam with Everready - they weighed at least twice as much. I've heard about the Radio Shack batteries - will try them. Real Goods has too much of a back order - took me 2 months to get D & C cells.

Jolly

PS(I think that you may be right about Everready intentionally handholding people to use alkaline batteries. I wonder if they realize how much animosity they're engendering? Also, if someone relies on these fraud batteries and their flashlight goes out and they die, who's at fault?)

-- Jollyprez (jolly@prez.com), March 22, 1999.

Look at this way; you've bought peace of mind. And, you're much better prepared for the next natural or man-made disaster than most people. There's still hurricanes, earthquakes, earth-changes, etc.

If you only got food/supplies that you'd normally use, maybe excluding the generator, no biggie.

There IS the threat that the Russians/Chinese may decide to pre- emptive strike us with nuclear weapons before Y2k causes them to lose them; they are WAY behind the US in remediation.

The US is at it's weakest in a LONG time, and will be weaker still after Y2k, so why not hit shortly before? Makes a terrible kind of sense to me.

Besides, that car loses it's value way too fast, unless you bought a BMW or Mercedes anyways. Your storage and preps will continue to have value.

-- Bill (billclo@hotmail.com), March 22, 1999.

you'll be happy and smug in december, when the unprepared start emptying the stores.

-- jocelyne slough (jonslough@tln.net), March 22, 1999.