Why deception?

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This is an interesting take on why politicians work to keep us in the dark. Are they growing mushrooms?

It is about original sin but not a religious take. It is a historical piece.


-- nocommies (freeus@america.com), March 21, 1999


Your right. That is a hysterical piece. I wouldn't know where to began to refute such a specious crock of codswallop.


"The learned Fool writes his Nonsense in better language than the Unlearned, but 'tis still Nonsense".....B. Franklin.

-- Hallyx (Hallyx@aol.com), March 21, 1999.


Are you saying he writes funny or are you saying you have not been and are not being deceived?

-- nocommies (freeus@america.com), March 21, 1999.


.3) Hegemony = consent + force

In his notes on Machiavelli, Gramsci states that "The 'normal' exercise of hegemony on the now classical terrain of the parliamentary regime is characterised by the combination of force and consent, which balance each other reciprocally, without force predominating excessively over consent. Indeed, the attempt is always made to ensure that force will appear to be based on the consent of the majority, expressed by the so-called organs of public opinion - newspapers and associations - which, therefore, in certain situations, are artifically multiplied. Between consent and force stands corruption/fraud..." (80f).

9) Economic dimension of hegemony (see p. 161). (Anderson, 1977: 19). Ie, hegemony, although ethical- political, must be ultimately based on the economic function performed by the fundamental social group in production.

10) Under Democracy Gramsci believed that the most realistic conception of democracy can be worked out in relation to the concept of hegemony: "In the hegemonic system, there exists democracy between the 'leading' group and the groups which are 'led', in so far as the development of the economy and thus the legislation which expresses such development favour the (molecular) passage from the 'led' groups to the 'leading' group" (56f).

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-- nocommies (freeus@america.com), March 21, 1999.

Sorry, freeus, no offense intended. Mr ACE writes adequately, other than his habitual use of lable-isms and buzzwords. What I meant was that I'm not getting paid enough to compose a thousand word rebuttal. He was merely offering his opinion---as, however inelegantly, was I. I guess I'm just grumpy in the morning.

As for deception, I'm far to old and cynical to be easilly deceived. I think that goes for a sizable percentage of posters here. More skepticism per kilobyte than most places online.


(paraphrase) Skepticism: the chastity of the intellect. Cynicism: the power of accurate observation. --- George Bernard Shaw

-- Hallyx (Hallyx@aol.com), March 21, 1999.


No problem! I think Americans are starting to wake up anyway. I've been yelling about it since aprox. 1975. It's hard to wake from a deep comfortable sleep. And Americans are deep and very comfortable. I like my comforts too! But I am willing to be unconfortble in order to restore order.

Take care! We win!

-- nocommies (freeus@america.com), March 21, 1999.

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