I'm an INFP/INTP and I anticipate a "7-8" on the Y2K Impact Scale--rough times ahead but not necessarily TEOTW (though acknowledge that it might be worthwhile to prepare for worse, since 9-10 is not out of the question).

Wondering if J or P contributes more to GI-ness...etc.

I realize this is a silly question but i'm curious.

-- coprolith (coprolith@rocketship.com), March 16, 1999

Answers

A silly question indeed, and one I have an answer for...but I'm not sure about others...I'm inveterate ENFP...on the high end every time I test....all my associates are NFs...

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), March 16, 1999.

What is INFP/INTP?

What is a J or P?

-- Bob Watson (janebob99@aol.com), March 16, 1999.

If you'd like to take a Kiersey-Bates type test...which is personality temperment test..try this link:

Temperment test

All those who want to know about Myers-Briggs Temperment Test should do Net search, and get some understanding about Myers-Briggs continuum...

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), March 16, 1999.

I am a INTP, my BF is a INFJ. We are both GIs and former Mensa members. His (170), hers (150).

:) I loved the mensa thread... about ten people said they were former members, 2 said they didn't qualify but compared their mental status to DGI mensa members, then a troll said the *whole* thread was about non-mensa GI's comparing their intelligence to mensa DGIs. Hee hee!

-- Alison Tieman (fearzone@home.com), March 16, 1999.

I'm sure most people here would be Rationals as opposed to Guardians, Idealists or Artisans. It's just a feeling I get. I bet the trolls are Idealists or Guardians.

-- Alison Tieman (fearzone@home.com), March 16, 1999.

Whoops, in true NF style I forgot the link...here it is:

>a href="http://www.keirsey.com/cgi-bin/keirsey/newkts.cgi">Kiersey-Bates Temperment Test

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), March 16, 1999.

I'm also a INFP/INTP, and I'd vote for about a 6-7 on the impact scale. :) I don't know what my mom is (she's a GI for sure) but I'll make her check and get back with you. Btw, I'm not a member of Mensa, but I qualitfy. Just thought I'd throw that in. ;)

-- GI's Daughter (gisdaughter@home.com), March 16, 1999.

Oooops...well, maybe I don't qualify (qualitfy? :)

-- GI's Daughter (gisdaughter@home.com), March 16, 1999.

In true NF style I forgot that I forgot. Anyone interested should take the temperment profile test...lots of fun, and imformative about how you relate to life.

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), March 16, 1999.

Should I regard my IQ as negligable because I find this entire thread incomprehensible?

-- Watchful (seethesea@msn.com), March 16, 1999.

Thread's not moving...PUSH...

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), March 16, 1999.

Ok, The test sounded like fun so I clicked over and clicked my way

down the questions. Here was my results -- NT and INTJ

Know to go back and study what this means.

-- Reader (Reader@athome.com), March 16, 1999.

I just re-read the US post Office thread, and that guy started off by apologizing (-1 sp) for his acronyms. Then I read this one.

Yipes!

-- Robert A. Cook, P.E. (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), March 16, 1999.

The J/P ratings of Myers-Briggs wouldn't differentiate someone getting it or not, it would differentiate their response to it. J generally refers to "judgement" and is highly correlated with both decisiveness and the tendency to be polar and see things in extremes. P generally refers to "perception" and is highly correlated with both intuitiveness and the tendency to either not make decisions (or not quickly) or to allow for many more shades of grey, and to be able to leave things incomplete without it driving them crazy. You might say, N is the archetypal mother figure and J is the archetypal father figure (though neither of mine fit those bills). 'Course that's only one (letter) part of the equation.

My gunman (who stocks weapons & ammo as I stock food, and plans to join me when the time comes) is, like me, the semi-unfortunate class of ENTJ. Go team. :-)

PJ

-- PJ Gaenir (fire@firedocs.com), March 16, 1999.

I'm an INTP and I "got" Y2k a long time ago, rather immediately.

An interesting question, and one I gave some thought to myself, having found the test to be remarkably on-the-money most of the time.

-- Caroline (carolinepp2@aol.com), March 17, 1999.

Facinating thread, Coprolith.

And thanks for the link, Donna. I, too, am a ENFP, but not as clearly as you (sometimes ESFJ). In fact, when I first took the M/B, the psychologist who administered it said I had to be hiding - I came out too evenly in all but the first category. My innate tendancies are ENFP, but my training is all _STJ, so I tend to be even in those categories.

BTW, what's with all the I---'s posting? I figured them for lurkers!

-- Tricia the Canuck (jayles@telusplanet.net), March 17, 1999.

THANKYOU!! You have explained something that has happened more than once inthe back of my car! NOW I understand what the @@@@ the folks from Big Consulting, Inc are talking about. Seems that they ALL have to take the test, and some of the assignments and promotions are (not dictated but that's close) by their scores.

Thanks

Chuck

-- Chuck, a night driver (reinzoo@en.com), March 17, 1999.

Hey folks! I'm an INFJ and GI on a scale of 7-8. My partner is a ENFP and is a GI as well....

-- libby alexander (libbyalex@aol.com), March 17, 1999.

ENTJ here. GI in about 10 minutes. IQ unknown.

-- Mitchell Barnes (spanda@inreach.com), March 17, 1999.

Funny, I didn't think I'd be an NF/INFJ, but there you go...

-- sparks (wireless@home.com), March 17, 1999.

Funny, I didn't think I'd be an NF/INFJ, but there you go... and a 7-8 on the GI scale.

-- sparks (wireless@home.com), March 17, 1999.

I did this thing a few years ago at a Stop-At-Nothing seminar. They tagged me an ESTJ. OK, so I'm a Polly that's an ESTJ. If I remember correctly, that means I have to deal in facts and see the hard evidence before I come to a conclusion. Sound right?? Might explain why I feel the way I do about Y2K.

My .02

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), March 17, 1999.

I'd be willing to bet 50 lbs of rice that the folks on this board are overwhelmingly a bunch of N's. N's generally have a better grasp of the forest's issues vice the S's which generally has a better grasp of what's going on with the trees. A fundementally different way of veiwing the world and it's problems. As for me, ENTJ.

-- Ramp Rat (Aviation_R_us@noname.nocity), March 17, 1999.

I am an Artisian (this of course came as no great shock to me, being an Artist and all) SP/ISTP.

Alison---Winston Churchill, and John F. Kennedy were also Artisians, somehow I think they would have 'got it' too, although they probably wouldn't have had time to hang around here. ;-)

I was a bit frustrated with the test, because sometimes I would be more likely to pick an answer somewhere in between the two choices, however as usual the test was eerily accurate.

-- Deborah (infowars@yahoo.com), March 17, 1999.

I wound up being a Guardian ISTJ; perhaps I'm on the wrong forum.

The questionnaire was very stressful: I qualified for both answers on almost every question. I noticed that I'd answer the question one way if I were hypothetically dealing with children, the other if dealing with adults.

-- Lisa (oops@wrong.one), March 17, 1999.

Lisa,

"I noticed that I'd answer the question one way if I were hypothetically dealing with children, the other if dealing with adults."

I noticed that as well.

-- Deborah (infowars@yahoo.com), March 17, 1999.

I'm an INFP/INTP. I was a GI in WWII, Korea and Nam, and let's see, an FBI, CIA, INS, ATF and a 007. Also a GNIABFI and a TEOTWAWKI. Let's see, my IQ is somewhere around 140-200. I guess that makes me a genius, as evidenced by the fact that I made up the acronyms for BASIC, COBOL, FORTRAN, BART, MARTA, NATO, and OPEC to name a few.

-- :) (:)@:).:)), March 17, 1999.

Hey, gang, sorry to burst your bubble(s), but I'm a Ph.D. in Psychology and think the theory is ALL WET. There's just too much more to psychometrics that is not accounted for by such ideas. Let's go prepare and forget the armchair stuff. Sorry to be a wet blanket, but I could no longer lurk when such an idea is around. ben

-- ben (benalurker@usa.net), March 17, 1999.

It's been some time since I took the MB test, but I was an ENTJ at that time. I don't see that having changed much, so no need to go back and re-take it.

After discovering Y2K nearly four years ago, I "got" Y2K after about an hour of contemplation and connecting the dots.

-- Night (y2k_nightmare@my-dejanews.com), March 18, 1999.

I'm an ENTJ - now and a 5 years ago.

-- Jay (havocuz@mindspring.com), March 18, 1999.

I'm an INFP (F personally and T/F professionally - my work is my art!)

I think things will be 6-8; what is does GI and DGI stand for anyway?

-- Brett Blatchley (bblatchl@inmar-inc.com), March 18, 1999.

In typical INFP form, I am going to state the obvious. The MB test should probably be taken with a grain of salt, but lookie here... we are a very diverse bunch with one exeption. Nearly all of us are intuiters and not sensors, very much an N-dominated forum. Guess that means we'd rather see what lies beyond our immediate situation.

I realize that the true psychologists don't mess around with this kind of pop-psychobabble, but again, I was just curious. Thanks for your input!

-c

-- coprolith (Coprolith@rocketship.com), March 18, 1999.

Oh - come on Ben A. Lurker,

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So write up your own test - heck, we're gullible - right? We'll jump jump up take anything test you can think of. Please, don' denigrate this one unless you offer evidence it's not useful, or offer a better one.

To the others:

GI = "Get It" - understand the serious nature of the year 2000 issue. By implication, expects something more severe than the government's standard issue propaganda of "a bump in the road" or "minor localized inconveniences." However, any two given "GI's" will almost certainly have different opinions about the length, extent, and number of discrepancies and problems: including some who could claim "no problems" because in their opinion, the problems will be solved by the end of the year..

DGI Don't Get It - inverse of above - a person who doesn't understand the problem. Implied by many, but not quite the real definition, is that DGI believes nothing will happen.

There are subtle subsets in DGI's: that is, the DGI either "can't" understand the problem (even if it is explained to him) which is actually the subset CGI - this may be because of woefully bad government schooling or a simple inability to understand that computers really do break, and when they break, bad things happen to even the best intentioned of people;

or the DWGI group - people otherwise capable of understanding the problem, but who don't want it to occur. Thus, they block out evidence to the contrary, and they rely exclusively on the scraps of "good news" regularly doled out by the government and the media. (The DWGI people are most often liberal Democrats and the people who vore for liberal Democrats. Reason and rational thought, and independent thought, freedom or self-reliance have little meaning for this group.)

-- Robert A. Cook, P.E. (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), March 18, 1999.

I'm a Libra with an IQ of at least 45 who wishes he never got it.

-- PNG (png@gol.com), March 18, 1999.

Clicked through the test - INFP, but this doesn't seem like me too much. Wanted to put in a third answer for many questions. Guess it's just measuring "tendencies".

I (confess) I "got it" intuitively from a Gary North mailer in 1997, but had to spend a few weeks on the internet and the Compuserve Y2K forum (were a lot of level headed discussions there) for confirmation that the problem was serious.

-- Debbie (dbspence@usa.net), March 18, 1999.

Well, it turns out I'm an ENFP, which means I have to think about this some more...

-- PNG (png@gol.com), March 18, 1999.

The goddess loves NFs! :-)

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), March 18, 1999.

Well I'll be danged. That would explain a lot with my relationship with hubby. We took the test, I came out an ENTP, and hubby an ESFJ. I'm an "inventor", he's a "provider" and a DGI/DWGI/CGI whatever, I can't make up my mind what he is, but he is one of them. He happens to be one of the most common or "normal" category, and I hapen to be in the least. After reading Keisey's website, I forgive hubby for calling me crazy ;-)

-- Chris (catsy@pond.com), March 18, 1999.

"Clicked through the test - INFP, but this doesn't seem like me too much. Wanted to put in a third answer for many questions."

Debbie, I felt the same way. The test is too restrictive, we're stuck with only 2 answers. I never thought of myself as an inventor, but reading the description of the ENTP I could relate to a lot of it, and I've always been proud to be "crafty" and "handy", making contraptions to substitute for something else that brakes or I can't buy right away etc. And hubby's description I thought fit him to a T, although he didn't think so.

For sure this test is to be taken with a grain of salt, but it's still is a good tool to understand differences in people, IMO.

-- Chris (catsy@pond.com), March 18, 1999.

Hmmmmn. Artisian - ESTP - blew 'em away on the "tough minded" column. So, does that keep me a right-handed sarcastic Roman Catholic 3D CAD kind of engineer who nit-picks details and can't type worth a d**m?

Or do I have to do something else?

Details of questionaire: E+4 S+10 T+19 P+2

-- Robert A. Cook, P.E. (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), March 18, 1999.

I got SJ AND ESFJ

-- Darlene (boomer@tdstelme.net), March 18, 1999.

The test is so flattering.. comparing oneself to Eleanor Roosevelt, Albert Einstein.... Aaah! An interesting twist would be to have a bunch of, er, serial killers take the test .... So, which serial killer are you most like?

I just have to turn everything on its head. ;-)

Robert, I could use some of that T; seems like you have plenty to go around!

Chris, do the DGI/GI sparks fly when the one letter in common is E?

Looks like the N wins, contributes most to GI-ness

-- Debbie (dbspence@usa.net), March 18, 1999.

"Chris, do the DGI/GI sparks fly when the one letter in common is E?"

Do I really have to explain and be graphic? ;-)

Thank god for that E we have in common though, sparks fly in more than just the GI/DGI area of our relationship ;-)

-- Chris (catsy@pond.com), March 18, 1999.

Oh, I was looking at it as a positive. No need to explain. :-)

Differences make the world go round, etc. (when we appreciate them, that is!)

-- Debbie (dbspence@usa.net), March 18, 1999.

OK, OK, does being an NF/ENFJ (Idealist/Variant Teacher) have anything to do with my enthusiasm for taking these kinds of tests? I got it quickly (hope for a 7, expect a 9) when three different sources indicated the problem. Intelligent enough to cope with what life throws me/stupid enough to enjoy it. I love these types of threads -- so revealing (or something).

-- Lois Knorr (knorr@attcanada.net), March 18, 1999.

The official Myers-Briggs test is a lot more involved than what you might see in a self-help book. It's currently used quite a lot in career settings and by Human Resources departments. (In fact, we use it as a "Team Building" excercise in our company.)

I recently took a college Psychology Introduction course, and apparently the MB is viewed by pyschologists as a useful tool within its limitations. I.e. "damning with faint praise," they think that people are expecting too much from the tool. (From what I can see, the same seems to be said of all the other tests too. The concept of personality is still a hot research topic.)

In may own case, I'm a textbook INFP -- I've got virtually all of the good and bad qualities of that sort of cat. It really helped me (almost 10 years ago) to understand that while I'm unusual, I'm not "crazy," and my personality traits *are legitimate*. (This is also helping me to understand and cope with problems that stem from my childhood experiences.)

On the other hand, I've met several people that don't get anything out of MB. I've noticed that these are folks who scored about the middle of all the catagories, which seemed pretty reasonable to me once I gave it some thought.

Anyway, if it helps you understand yourself and others, I can't see any harm in that. I've never heard of anyone "going postal" over their MB score ;-)

I've collected another neat set of writings on INFP on my site, if you're curious: http://linus.highpoint.edu/~bblatchl/infp.html

-- Brett Blatchley (bblatchl@inmar-inc.com), March 19, 1999.