When was the last time government heard from you?greenspun.com : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread
Please forgive me if this URL has already been posted but since the email responses apparently helped sway the vote on Know Your Customer maybe some energy could be put towards voicing concern about the ambiguity in the government's rhetoric.
Paul Revere did not ride through the streets of Boston shouting, "The British are coming, but don't worry, just prepare for a hurricane, it's serious, but planes will not fall from the sky."
Email your representatives at: http://congress.nw.dc.us/wpost/
Got other suggestions?
-- Carol (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 12, 1999
-- amigo (email@example.com), March 12, 1999.
I believe "Know your customer" has officialy been shot down. <:)=
-- Sysman (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 12, 1999.
Carol: For Gods sakes get a grip girl! I dont know the situation your living in,but if its so bad your talking about Paul Revere and hurricaness, maybe its time to sit back and take a look at where, what and who you are. Things may get confused in the days that lay ahead, our lives may get disrupted and things may be unsettled for awhile , but remember the good old U.S.A. is the best thing to come along in the last 200+ years. If not the governing forces, its the everyday folks that make the whole system work. Now government types are telling us to put away a few days of basic stores, I guess if we had our shit half-way together we would already have that taken care of. So now it boils down to if you are going to listen to the gloom and doom merchants that seem to be coming out of the woodwork. Granted, things may get a little off center at Y2K , but resorting to camo and assault weapons are not the reality of the situation. There's alot of people out there that have spent alot of time with soldier of fortune mag. or other would be Rambo type fantasies that seem to arise from these armchair warriors Carol, I've lived in war and I've lived in peace and I'll take peace anyday. If you are not comfortable in the place you are in , leave. If you need someone to talk to, this is my real name and my real email addres, silly me I dont feel the need to use a phoney name and address..Dennis A. Souza
-- Dennis Souza (email@example.com), March 12, 1999.
blow it out your souzaphone, buddy.
-- Jeremiah Jetsen had the best fake name, but that ain't me. (Lucien_thesky@diamonds.com), March 12, 1999.
Call me instead Carol, I like theater, day trips to the mountains, as well as the beach, museums, or just quiet evenings at home. Am willing to exchange photos.
-- KoFE (AndIfirstname.lastname@example.org), March 12, 1999.
Dennis Souza commented:
"So now it boils down to if you are going to listen to the gloom and doom merchants that seem to be coming out of the woodwork. Granted, things may get a little off center at Y2K , but resorting to camo and assault weapons are not the reality "
Here a a great way the LIIBERAL, LEFT WING SOCIALIST mish mash in our country twist things.
Carol, you hit the nail on the head with regard to when the sheeple last contacted their representatives. Their lack of interest in our country and it's leaders has been quite apparent.
-- Ray (email@example.com), March 12, 1999.
amigo, Thanks for the link.
Sysman, Sorry for the confusion. I read where Know Your Customer was shot down and that much objection was voiced by email.
Dennis, The system only works when the citizens "speak out" and demand that it works. We have been apathetic for too long. Patriotic yes, Rambo, not!
KoFE, Wrong forum. Good reason for using phoney email addresses.
Ray, Thanks. It was just a reminder that we have a voice. Media and government are not "sheep-herders." Government should not resort to hiring PR firms to deal with topics of public discourse.
-- Carol (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 12, 1999.
"When was the last time government heard from you?"
During the impeachment votes and trials ... House and Senate. Part of the e-mail brigade.
Almost daily, if you post here. ;-D
So, best bets? Study your local Senators and Congresspeople then focus on the one's who seem to GI. They ARE out there. Don't forget the State level ones either. And your city's Mayor.
-- Diane J. Squire (email@example.com), March 12, 1999.
ThE LAsTvTImE ThE GoV. HeArD FrOm ME WaS The lAST TimE I PaId My InComE TaX In 1987!! StUpId AmRiCaNs ArE NoT ReQUiReD To PAy iNcOmE TaXeS!!!!!! I Am A FmArT AmErIcAn!!!! I KEEp AlL ThE MoNeY I MaKe!!!!! He Hi Ho, I GottA Go!!!!!!
-- Dieter (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 12, 1999.
Thanks Diane, I didn't intend to "sell you all short", either. Just wanted to provide a link I thought might be helpful.
I contacted an official at our Mayor's office last week, expressed my concerns, and she became defensive about the city's preparation. (y2k is a communication nightmare) I apologized for sounding as if I was grilling her and then added that I had just viewed the testimony of the Dept.'s of State, Commerce, and CIA on CSPAN and gave her a short summary. Her comment was, "I cannot see how y2k problems in other countries could affect us." I offered to bring her a copy of the Senate Report, Paula Gordon's White Paper, the Vanity Fair article of Jan. 1999, and the testimony from the Post Master General. She said she would see that those items would go to interested parties. (?)Oh, and I also included the Alert sent to the Chemical Industries by the EPA. Our city is nestled in proximity to Citgo, PPG, WR Grace, and Condea Vista, to name a few.
Appreciate your tips and will continue to persevere!
-- Carol (email@example.com), March 12, 1999.
I Looooooove e-mail!
Rep. Steve Largent heard from me last June when I suggested that we save a lot of money and just move up the timetable on his "IRS Sunset" bill to 12/31/1999. Dr. Robert Alloway sent me a very nice note saying that, unfortunately, "we are stuck fixing it...".
CA State Senator Vasconcellos heard from me a few weeks ago when I pointed out to him that the meeting in Sacramento re the CA Auditor's report on Y2K progress was, contrary to publicity, NOT available via the Net. Haven't heard nuttin' from his office, but that's OK...
San Diego County Supervisor Diane Jacob just heard from me re the recent County Y2K Summit..
E-mail is a quick and easy way to contact your elected officials. If they don't respond, you can just keep filling up their e-box. Failing that, you call 'em up and "enlighten" someone.
-- Mac (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 12, 1999.
Girlfriend is on a roll.
-- KoFE (email@example.com), March 12, 1999.
"Know your Customer" ("Spy on your Customer") may be shot down for the time being. But, they will try again, and again, and again ... until it is finally effected. (Barring Y2K interruptions, economic collapse, Russia or China nuking the U.S., Iraq or ? unleashing the poor man's a-bomb [germ/chemical warfare].)
Thomas Jefferson, it was, I believe, warned us about central banking. (Something to the effect that if you/we allow it, our descendents will find themselves homeless in the streets [prescient, eh?].) Almost immediately after the U.S. Government came into being (1786) there were attempts to establish central banking. A couple of attempts were successful but rebuffed by the then (relatively honest) Supreme Courts. But, the power-mad never gave up. Finally, over 100 years after the founding, they finally got a central central banking sytem (aka Federal Reserve System) that stuck. Freedom, privacy, and even economic progress has suffered as a result.
Never underestimate the tenacity of the power-hungry, and never overestimate the intelligence and knowledge of their subjects.
-- A (A@AisA.com), March 12, 1999.
A@Ais: The exact quote, for you:
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered."
-- Rob Michaels (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 12, 1999.
Thanks for the quote -- couldn't find it when I posted.
BTW, Jefferson (or I) have nothing against private banks. The problem is that they (Federal Reserve bank, members, and even others) now control the issuance of money, not the Treasury. (Treasury has abrogated its duties to ensure honest money -- that is, money backed by actual commodity metals.
-- A (A@AisA.com), March 13, 1999.