When and how did you Get It?

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This question has been asked before and I thought that it would be good to ask it again now, especially since there are so many new contributors on the forum. As far as I know, it hasn't come up recently (apologies if it has) so here goes:

Two Cents: While I have been in the IT industry for over twenty years, and knew about the two-digit year 2000 problem from a code/programming standpoint for most of my career, I never knew of the scope and interdependencies and embedded systems problems until last February. When I was asked, as part of my job, to "look into this Y2K thing", I had no idea that several weeks later, after I got past my emotions and denial, I would start taking my first prep steps. Finding out about the potential for loss of power and water put me in a state of being almost dazed for several weeks. I was a Don't wanna get it (DWGI). I began researching the problem here and on other sites. Perhaps ironically, it was this site and Ed's book that got me over DWGI Mountain. From my early programmer days I used some of his technical books, so he had instant credibility with me which I could not deny. All of my other research just confirmed what he was saying. That's when and how I got it

When and how did you Get It?

-- Rob Michaels (sonofdust@net.com), February 23, 1999


Get what?

OK, seriously. Scarey Gary introduced me to y2k back in April. I then searched the net for info on it -- I just assumed that techie people would all disagree with his gloomy assessment. Unfortunately, a lot of them didn't, & still don't. Much as people seem to dislike Gary, they don't really disagree with the jist of what he says.

Starting preparing shortly after.

-- wish it (would@go.away), February 23, 1999.

I got it on vacation in Oregon this past year. Liek you, I have been in the IT industry for quite a while, but had figured everyone knew about and had a plan. While on vacation, I stayed at a friend's house, who asked me, "So Brett, what do you think of this Year 2000 thing?" He figured me for a GI as one year earlier I'd been saying that I thought computers might actually be hurting our society rather than helping. I told him that I thought nothing of Y2K, and he introduced me to what was on the web. The turn-around for me was the text of the June 2, 1998, CSIS conference where Sen. Bennett was the keynote speaker. I read all 57 pages and returned to work telling my employer they'd better take this a lot more seriously than they had.

I've since married a woman who "gets it" and we've moved our 5 kid family to rural Iowa and now live on 10 acres of land with an acre- sized pond. My kids are happier than they've ever been and my wife and I are having a great time digging/building our root cellar and reading up on Carla Emery's book.

One year ago I never would have figured I'd be where I am today - amazing.

Even if this goes okay, I wouldn't change a thing about our new life - makes me wonder why I've been doing other things all of this time.

-- Brett (savvydad@aol.com), February 23, 1999.

I got it twenty years ago when the banks destroyed my farm in New York. I had two hundred acres of great alfalpha producing lots and three dozen Arabians fit for racing and breeding. It was all going so perfect until 1980.

The damn taxes. year by year they widdled me down from 200+ to just under fifteen. No I have no more horses, no more land and no farm. What was left of my acreage was sold by the bankers to jews from Manhattan and they turned the whole thing into a subdivision. Polluted the naturally occuring stream and beaver pond with pesticides and auto bi-products and construction debris.

In a way, I knew at that point what Y2K was all about... Greed. Greedy little men in wall street business suits just eating up Miss America acre by acre. Using up every available resource and selling it to the lowest bidder. I only just read about Y2K on the internet last November, but GI (got it) twenty years ago.

Thanks for all the input and best of luck to all of you. I'm not in much of a position to prepare but I do what I can do to be "Y2K ready" in my own sense of the term.

-- (South of @lbany. New York), February 23, 1999.

Brett, there's just something about Oregon -- must be in the water and fresh air a'blowin -- people Get Concepts in Cascadia wee bit more quickly than elsewhere. Strange place, as many sorta hole up & hobbit cocoon. Guess they'll be coming out & talking to their neighbors this Spring & Summer. Then back to hibernation in Fall & Winter, but this year with the root cellars full, preferably the attics as below-line mold grows profusely. Really inspired to hear how well things have turned out for you, in just one year ... :-)

xxxxxxx xxxxxxx xxxxxxx xxxxxxx x

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), February 23, 1999.

backseat of a chevy...at the drive in!


-- heeee (...@dotcomdotm.com), February 23, 1999.

I also read Gary North's newsletter,my first thought was that this sound pretty serious but as I went about my daily work(and nobody else was talking about any thing like this)I kinda forgot about it.This was April 98.I work at a bank in the midwest and for about the last two years ,the corporation has been encouraging us to convince the senior customers to sign up to direct deposit to their banking accounts.Then we got notice from Social Security that on Jan1999 it would become mandatory for everyone to have direct deposit,no exception.And then in July 1998 they resinded the mandate.That made no sense to me.Thats when I knew something was very,very wrong..

-- rooster (logcabin@loggie.com), February 23, 1999.

I sympathize with you, south. Bankers and jews with development fever are a bad combination for farmers in the best of times. Bet there are a lot of GI's among folks displaced from the land, who've seen first-hand what those who must have cities to live are capable of.

-- taxedtodeath (by@the.tribe), February 23, 1999.

When did this turn into the Aryan Nation anti-semite forum?

Why don't you just chain a Jew to the back of your pick up and take him out for a drag?

Sheesh, guys, get a grip.

-- rick blaine (y2kazoo@hotmail.com), February 23, 1999.

I stand behind Rick, that was the most offensive thing I have seen on this forum.

Where's DiETeR when you need 'em?

-- Deborah (geta@life.com), February 23, 1999.

Well put Rick! Pretty sad when you have to blame your bad luck on someone elses race/religion/heritage. Very sad.


-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), February 23, 1999.

This thread was primarily started with the newbies in mind, and it's these $@#$@#$ responses that really make me wonder why the hell I even bother sometimes. Another potentially useful thread gone to crap. As I have posted before when something gets to me: the old saying "What goes around, comes around." Here is hoping it comes sooner rather than later to you buttwipes.

-- Rob Michaels (sonofdust@net.com), February 23, 1999.

You may not like what he said, but one part is certainly true. Miss America is being gobbled up one acre at a time. Even the area around Walden Pond was to be covered with condos. Luckily a group to Save Walden Pond got together and wrote the book Heaven Under Our Feet, I think, to raise money to save it.

-- gilda jessie (jess@listbot.com), February 23, 1999.

Being Jewish has been a liability throughout most of recorded history. Bigoted idiots who need someone other than themselves to blame their troubles on always seem to be abundant. Unfortunately, I don't see the situation getting any better in the near future. It's good to see some of you here on this forum take a stand against this abject ignorance. Thank you.

-- Nabi Davidson (nabi7@yahoo.com), February 23, 1999.

In 1997 my brother started talking about Y2k. He works in a large bank in Chicago. He was pretty excited about it. Time hushed him up. Then in 1998 I read an article in the Parade Magazine, actaully it was a question directed to Marilyn Slavent(?) concerning Y2k. Her answer was very in depth and a little frightening. About that same time, my banker brother said older customers were coming into the bank and inquiring about Y2k. Some withdrew their savings. Brother was told by his bank to try discourage withdrawals and any questions related to Y2k were not to be answered. Instead, a name and address was required from the customer, and an informational pamplet would be sent to the customer. I started doing research on the net, ended up here, and am preparing like the world is going to end. (I don't think it is, just a lot of hard times) Sometimes I feel foolish and question exactly what I am doing since I do not know that much about computers. I must rely on the opinions of others to make my decisions and have found that there are some very well informed people on this forum. I, too, look for certain names on posts and replies. I welcome the mixture of GIs and pollys because it allows me to see both sides of the issue. I appreciate that all try and give links so each of us can read original information and come to our own conclusions. If nothing comes of Y2k, I will still have learned much from this forum. ANd I dON't carE If DIeTeR mAkes FuN of ME.

-- Linda A. (adahi@muhlon.com), February 23, 1999.



-- Dieter (questions@toask.com), February 23, 1999.

I guess I have to issue an apology:

I didn't mean to ruffle anyone's feathers by getting politically incorrect and by saying the reason I my little farm was destroyed was becasue of jews. It could have very well been any nationality. I am truly sorry I said it like that. The fact is constant though... city folk who had nothing better to do or see in my property took it and abused/destoyed it. I'm sorry that I pointed out who it was in this particular case becasue it doesn't really matter who.

But you have to admit that whenever you get around to placing well laid blame there are always a group of bleeding hearts around to make sure you look like a bigoted jerk out to cause trouble.

Can we please have a sense of responsibility and consequences for our actions in the new world?? I am getting tired of everyone trying to pass the buck. ( Someone owes me for the 185 acres I lost to money hungry criminals. I may never get it back but at least someone can be man enough to take the responsibility ).

(Sorry I sound hypocritical by saying all that and not using the real e-mail address but it's not my computer and I don't speak for the owner nor his mailbox)

-- (South of @lbany . com), February 23, 1999.

I don't see why you have to apologize. You didn't say ALL jews developed and polluted your former property, you merely stated that SOME jews did. That's hardly a slur. I wonder if the word "jews" had not been used, would everyone have gotten in such a tizzy and taken you to task? Sounds to me like you're a victim of a "hate crime" perpetrated by PC types.

-- short (fuses@this.forum), February 23, 1999.

Back to topic !!!!!!!!!! It was back in the fall of sixty nine, I tell ya! Sitting at an old IBM big Iron. Had my lttle paper punch, trying to get that stupid thing to do something. I knew then,if this was our fiuture we had a big problem!

-- Scotty (BLehman202@aol.com), February 23, 1999.

I came upon by accident the rerun of Gary North's first time on Art Bell. I think it was last May.

I remembered Gary well from the 70's and the inflation/gold scare. I felt then that what he said was quite sensible, even though things didn't get as bad as he thought. Perhaps his warnings persuaded policy makers to change their thinking.

Anyway, the next day I looked at his website and was a believer.

I immediately purchased Ed's book and Hyatt's book. Ed's book removed any doubt for me.

Two weeks later, Gary discussed procrastination on his web site and said, "Your checkbook will know." I started spending for preparations the next day.

-- GA Russell (garussell@russellga.com), February 23, 1999.

South of Albany,

If in fact your farm was sold to actual "Jews from Manhattan," then you don't have anything to apologize for. However, if you meant the phrase "Jews from Manhattan" to be a stereotypical representation of an unknown group that purchased your farm, then on behalf of all Jews I accept your apology:-).

Seriously, I hate political correctness as much as anyone. But as I stated earlier, Jews have been disparaged and persecuted down through history. Anything that can be done to change stereotypical beliefs brings us one step closer to being able to fulfill God's law (Lev. 19:18; Gal. 5:14) and His will for humanity.

For those of you who on this forum who are religiously-challenged, I apologize for the Scriptural citations.

-- Nabi Davidson (nabi7@yahoo.com), February 23, 1999.

My moment of truth was in the summer of 81. Y2K ? No . One of my many premonitions that I've had over the last fifty years. Haven't been wrong yet!! Always know two out of three ... What and where/when, but not why , in this case. My neice just happened to mention Y2K at a card party in November. Spent a week reading all positions , from DGI to GI, end of the world. Finally found the first sobering fact that for evey so many lines of code remediated, errors were introduced that the remediator was unaware of, and which would also have to be fixed later. But then , I've been preparing for 18 years, so only had the extra canned meat and ammo to purchase. Eagle

-- Harold Walker (e999eagle@freewwweb.com), February 24, 1999.

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