To those in the know:

How did it go?

-- Deborah (missedit@last.night), February 20, 1999

Answers

I could not hear it all, but the 30-40 min. I did hear was very credible. Even Art Bell said he had talked to a Vice-Pres of a very large bank who was a friend of his,-and the banker told him that they were "scared to death of a bank run". Art said he had done a lot of soul searching about reporting all he had learned since last May when Gary was on the first time------- afraid he would start a panic---- but he said found that he "must" tell his listeners about this problem we all face. He and Gary had a really good, informative, discussion. I plan to listen to it all on the archives today. Gary talked about the need to hold gold coins---so you can look for the coin prices to start up again next week. Hope this helps Snooper

-- Snooper (snoop@insiders.inside), February 20, 1999.

Nothing but the truth. When a caller asked North a question about his religion/world view, North sent the guy to his website, when he could have used the opportunity to get on a soapbox. He stated that he is motivated by a mission to safe lifes which is why he sells nothing on his site nor accepts ads.

The talk was on the usual topic. It started with the coming bank run. North said it has already started in the buying of gold and silver. North sees the fractional system as evil and corrupt. Bell came across as a GI. He is setting up his studio to broadcast shortwave and try to be a source of information if telcos are out.

There is not much time to prepare. They both felt bank runs will start in aug/sept. You can hear the whole broadcast if you download realaudio for free.

-- BBrown (peace2u@bellatlantic.net), February 20, 1999.

That's save not safe. Topics not topic.

Got spellcheck?

-- BBROWN (peace2u@bellatlantic.net), February 20, 1999.

Looks like we have an English Professor joining the forum! No, I don't think the forum message box has a spellchecker, and if you're talking about writing it in Word first, that's a bit obsessive isn't it?

The show was great. Gary North is a decent level-headed guy and I'm going to laugh at all this people who are labeling him some kind of extremist crackpot.

-- (@@@.@), February 20, 1999.

One can't help that one's brain moves faster than one's 10 fingers. I'm guilty of this at least 15 times a day, maybe even more.....

-- bardou (bardou@baloney.com), February 20, 1999.

I have to be honest here. I am real new to all of this. My husband called me this morning at midnight and told me to listen to Art Bell. And he really got my attention. I just wish my family would believe me and take some sort of action. It would really help matters if I could get them involved but so far the only thing they have done is save 2 liter bottles for me and they laugh about that.

-- shellie (shellie01@hotmail.com), February 20, 1999.

Bottom line: Keep adding to your stockpiles.

-- a (A@AisA.com), February 20, 1999.

a:

Right on. Day by day add to your stockpile. Sometimes I wish I had a credit card so I could max it out on supplies, unlike others who seem to have this mindset. They think if they max out their credit cards and weather the forthcoming economic collapse, then they'll have their provisions and the credit cards won't have their payments. I view this as being immoral, a type of cheating and can't do it. Of course, that won't stop others...

-- dinosaur (dinosaur@williams-net.com), February 20, 1999.

Now now, Dino, some of us who are using our credit crds do indeed fully intend to make teh required payments until the debt is satisfied. We just hope that the satisfaction is slightly hurried, or truncated, as it were.

Chuck

-- Chuck, night driver (rienzoo@en.com), February 21, 1999.

From csy2k

I stayed up and listened to the whole four hours of Art Bell last night with guest Gary North, well worth it, even with all the bizarre commercials.

Some tidbits :

I was surprised that the venom North directed towards programmers as the 'cause' of the problem was one of the few times he became *really* angry. He compared us to 'good Germans' 'just following orders from the Fuhrer', and even did a little German accent gig during his rant. It was frightening, dudes. the anger was palpable. Bell has 8 million listeners, and if even a fraction of them have this viewpoint, and there are *real* problems, some of us are gonna get lynched, no joke. Myself, I just became a copy machine salesman.

I think that as it gets closer and closer people move from an intellectual acceptance to the kind of fear you have when you're standing on the beach watching the tsunami bearing down ... now you *really* understand that you're gonna die.

One guy called and was *really* distraught, saying over and over, 'thank you thank you thank you to Art Bell and North, for saving the lives of myself and my children'.

Another woman called and related how she was in her bank and overheard 2 employees talk about how the bank would stop withdrawls (deposits only) in October. When everyone realized the woman was there, the 2 bank employees got in major trouble. Bell bet on August, and North on September for the start of the bank runs.

I agree that there is no doubt that North has an axe to grind, however, all of the point guys on both the polyanna and the doomer side do. If they did not feel so emotional about all of this they would not spend the hours (in North's case, thousands of them) that they do to keep the rest of us grunts 'informed' free of charge.

They definitely covered a l ot of ground and I know it scared a lot of people, but in my opinion, I think they understated the true extent of the problem. For example, no mention was made of the Middle East and/or oil at all which i think is the true underpinning of western society, even more vital than the Iron Triangle.

ciao (no pun intended :-)

* now even more anonoymous *

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), February 21, 1999.

Art asked Gary what was the *least* disruption Gary expected. Gary gave as his best case, which assumes banks, phones and power stay up, 15% unemployment developing in 2000, downgrading in 2001 to the level of unemployment in the Great Depression (which I recall was 25%). Kinda surprised me Gary could even envision something so "mild". Makes me wonder whether he has softened and is really a closet 9! (We'll know the show is over if Paul ever revises his death zone to only *four* miles of a 7-11! Nah!)

-- Brooks (brooksbie@hotmail.com), February 21, 1999.

North's irrational programmer rant blew the whole thing. He appears not to understand, or pretends not to understand, the genealogy of this situation. Too bad, as it leaves his other predictions, observations, and conclusions all highly suspect.

-- Nathan (nospam@all.com), February 22, 1999.

Would anyone have a link to the archived show for those of us who missed it? Thank you in advance!!!

-- Jackee (a@a.a), February 22, 1999.

Here it is, you'll need Real Audio. North starts around the second hour of the show...

Bell & North on 2/19/99

-- Nathan (nospam@all.com), February 22, 1999.