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> posted by Genroberts
> May I suggest a 5500 watt surge, 4500 watt continuous "North > Star"generator from Northern Hydraulics. Honda engine. Good > quality without 'frills'. > > Believe it or not, they are on sale: $999.99 (previously $1899.99) > > Call Northern Hydraulics: 1-800-533-5545 > (24 hours) > > Reference Item# 165911-C134 >
Dope slap to the forehead. I had that catalog sitting on my desk for a couple of days and didn't catch that front page ad. If I'm ever in your neck of the woods I owe ya a dinner. Contact me at email@example.com if you'd like to collect on that :-) Many thanks Genroberts!
My wife just got off the phone with Northern. The price has already risen $60.00 to $1059.99 and they are on back order (no kidding!). Now, they state that the delivery date is March 1. Give them a credit card number and they will take your order and wait until they receive the units to charge your card. I don't believe the March 1 date AT ALL, probably more like July 1 but at least I'm in line now.
[No true year 2000 success story can be reported until the year 2000]
-- Bob Benson (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 05, 1999
Generator FAQ - worthwhile read
-- Mitchell Barnes (email@example.com), February 05, 1999.
I bought a Generac 4000XL from these guys around christmas. I think it is a better value in that it puts out 4000 watts continuous, 5000 peak. And it sells for $839, with the same high quality OHV engine as Honda. In fact, it looks like it might be a Honda engine though Generac says it's their own engine. Northern is out of stock on these as of 10 minutes ago but the lady said they will be getting another 600 in 3 shipments by the end of March. If you want one, she said, order it now to guaranty delivery.
-- Rick Hudak (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 05, 1999.
Keep in mind what you will be using that generator for and for how long. Gasoline gennys are 1,000 hour lifespan units due to the high RPM's. Diesel gennys are about 10x that in lifespan due to lower RPM's.
It is not the engine that goes out as much as it is the alternator. If you are going to buy a genny that is not all Honda manufactured, then you are buying the guarantee on the alternator manufacturer of that genny. Honda is the most expensive gas genny out there, but you get what you pay for.
-- Bumble Bee (email@example.com), February 05, 1999.
I also have a diesel engine (I'm keeping it in my truck for the moment :-). I noticed that Northern has an item or two (don't have the catalog in front of me) that I might hook the engine up to to create a generator. Does anyone care to comment on this subject? Specifically, I'm wondering about the feasibility of this approach. I'd much rather leave the engine mounted in the truck, if possible.
-- Bob Benson (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 05, 1999.
Mr. Bee, That's true if I were going to run this thing all day, every day, I'd be in trouble. If the power goes out, the generator "on-time" will have to be rationed. The one (Generac)I bought slows to idle if there is no load. And the manufacturer claims a 3.5 to 5 times longer life than a techumse or B & S "tiller" engine. Personally, I hope I never have to use it.
-- Rick Hudak (email@example.com), February 05, 1999.
W.W. Grainger has generators (w/o attached IC engines) listed in its onlone catalog at that link. I haven't checked on availability, and you'd have to rig the pulleys, belts, support frame, etc. but the concept is sound. Your truck engine would easily drive any of the units offered in their catalog.
Grainger has outlets all over the country and there is a locator on their website, complete with phone and fax numbers, addresses and even maps.
-- Hardliner (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 05, 1999.
I have a
Coleman 2500watt generatorare the any good?
-- Duane (Duane24062@aol.com), February 05, 1999.
As has been mentioned in other posts here, it's one thing to get a generator, it's another thing to use it safely and efficiently. Things like oil burners and well pumps usually do not come with plugs; they are "hard wired" to the main power panel. Also, maintenance of the generator and its motor, and safe storage and preservation of fuel, especially if it is gasoline, need attention.
There are many sites on the web that discuss various aspects of using standby generators, as well as such things as batteries, inverters, and battery chargers, so that you can have some electricity available when the generator is not running.
One site that has some very handy suggestions, as well as many links to other pertinent sites, is the 'juice page" at:
As one poster put it, it's not rocket science, but it's also not a no brainer.
Let me offer a few totally unsubstantiated personal opinions:
The price of the generator will likely be less than half, possibly much less than half, of the total cost of using it effectively.
Fuel storage and wiring alterations need serious attention.
For safety's sake, it should not be run indoors (carbon monoxide kills people). Depending on your neighborhood, if power in your area is out for protracted periods, running it outdoors may expose it to some possible problems, such as theft or vandalism.
Also depending on your neighborhood, if power is out for protracted periods, it may be prudent, as well as kindly, to think of ways in which your having a generator can be helpful to your neighbors.
Unless you have money to spare, plan to use the generator only for things for which you have no practical alternative, and for what you do plan to use it, oversize it at least somewhat, especially if it is not diesel. One the other hand, if it is diesel, do not oversize it too much (since the motor must run at a constant rpm, you would at least waste fuel, but there is more to it than that).
(soapbox mode off)
-- Jerry B (email@example.com), February 05, 1999.
I also bought an Generac 4000XL from Nothern. They said that the engine was made by Nagano of Japan.
-- Bubba (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 06, 1999.
Don't foget that most of the little gas generators require oil changes every 25 hours of operation. About every three days! You're going to need lots of oil.Life of the gas engine is about 1000 hours. Diesel generators have the edge for long term power. Fuel is cheaper and they use less for the amount of power produced.Engine life is about 10000 hours with proper maintainence.The down side is higher initial cost. If you've got the money, go with a diesel Gen-Set.
-- (email@example.com), February 11, 1999.