So What;s the Solution to All of This?greenspun.com : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread
Have been reading these threads for several months now and what have I learned? Buy rice, beans, a generator, water filter, read propaganda, this expert is right on, this one is off base, I'm doomed, I'm gloomed, it's going to be okay, it's TEOTWAWKI, I'm a troll, your a troll, everyone's a troll, Ole Ed Yourdan had a thread, ei ei ohhhh! So, give me one solution to this whole mess and I promise that I won't bug you people again.
-- Just Tell Me! (JustTellMe@Trutyh.com), February 02, 1999
Excellent!! THis is what all of us have been saying for a LONG time now.....
It' just that, well, for you it might be a solution which is no good for me, and vice versa.
It's also that, if we give you a solution that ends up being wrong (not enough prep) you die. If we're wrong the other way, you spend a LOT of money, and do not use the stuff, and then, with the current litigiousness of our society, you sue for monetary damages from our advice.
Consequently, you select a scenario that fits your understanding, and prepare for that and hopefully a bit worse conditions, and hope to hell you don't need the preparedness.
Step right up, boys and girls. Step right up and play. You pays your money and takes your chances. Here in the Y2K Salloon!
-- Chuck, night driver (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 02, 1999.
Ever been to a gambling casino and played the lottery or bet on the horses? You get just one roll of the dice, one pick of the horses, one pull on the slot and one ticket for the lottery. What are your odds of winning? You get 6 months to prepare for a potential disaster. The clock doesn't stop ticking it's now or never. You prepare and nothing happens, what have you lost? If you don't prepare and it's a disaster, what have you gained? Whether you choose to listen to people on this forum or you choose to take your chances and do nothing, really doesn't mean anything to me. You asked for a solution, and the solution is in your own mind, not ours.
-- bardou (email@example.com), February 03, 1999.
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-- Dan (DanTCC@Yahoo.com), February 03, 1999.
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-- Dan (DanTCC@Yahoo.com), February 03, 1999.
I'll try to clean up after myself in the future!
-- Chuck, night driver (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 03, 1999.
"So, give me one solution to this whole mess and I promise that I won't bug you people again."
Only one answer to fit that bill, but you might just be goofy enough to carry it out. I don't want it on my conscience.
-- Uncle Deedah (email@example.com), February 03, 1999.
-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), February 03, 1999.
Just Tell Me,
On of the aspects of our society that has developed that many of us here are down on, is the idea of people wanting to be coddled and taken care of by "the Government" or other people in general. Go to the threads dealing with issues like welfare and DGI "Predators" for a taste of this.
We live in an "Information Society," yet that information yields little wisdom. We are constatly being "told" by sources from all sides "what to do." It's easier to "buy this product," "behave like these sitcom characters," "invest your money in this company making widgets," or "be a member of this religion" than it is to actually go out there with senses intact and figure out what's really best for each of us as individuals. The herd moves en masse in certain directions and there are powerful motivators to get us to move in the same direction.
However, with something like this issue, there are possible life and death ramifications. Which herd do you join, and what happens if you join the wrong herd? Therefore, this might be a good time to ignore the herds and spend the time and energy to gather, sift and analyze as much of the information as you can. Then, based on your own analysis and situation, come up with an approach that makes sense to YOU.
I suppose this is a fancy way of saying that nobody is going to tell you "what the solution to all of this" is to your satisfaction, and nobody is going to take responsibility for your conclusions. It's just too thick. You need to figure it out yourself. And act accordingly...
-- pshannon (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 03, 1999.
>-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), February 03, 1999.
-- Taylor (1999SOS@hasbeen.net), February 03, 1999.
"Have been reading these threads for several months now and what have I learned?"
If you don't know that, who else could?
There is no secret club here. It's an open-book exam. Equal opportunities for all. Bummer, right?
-- Tom Carey (email@example.com), February 03, 1999.
If uncle can't say it I will...
Go and close all the doors in your garage, turn on the car, sit back and relax... and wait for the answer to come to you. Don't have a garage? Ask a neighbor if you can borrow theirs for a few hours.
-- (who cares @ y2k . com), February 03, 1999.
Just Tell Me,
I can understand your frustration with this situation and see that you have tried to deal with it by hoping that this group of people who seem to you to have some answers would give you some relief. As you can see, this is perceived as an unfair request. Since this is a life and death matter, you must take responsibility for your decision. Very few people will have access to what is known about y2k when they must make their own decisions some time in 99 when they learn about it.
Angry responses, which I am sad to see are put so unkindly, are also understandable. People who have agonized over their own decisions with the lives of their children and families at stake are upset that you would try to escape the responsibility which has been thrust upon us all. Whether we have more or less facts to help us, no one can tell you what will happen exactly. And it will depend upon who you are, where you are, and what you are able and willing to do. It is just much more complicated than one answer.
I really feel for young people who are just finding out about this. Here I struggle so hard with my 46 years of experience and some hard won maturity and 15 years in computers. How can we expect for young people to have the maturity to take on this level of responsibility or this difficult of a decision? I don't know how old you are, but if you fall into this category, you have my deepest sympathies. I hope you are able to find a local community of people for support.
Good luck, Lora
-- Lora Ereshan (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 03, 1999.