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-- Uncle Deedah (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 30, 1999
And it links at:
-- Chuck, night driver (email@example.com), January 30, 1999.
Unruly students never learn their lessons. (At least not the ones the status quo wants us to learn)
-- Uncle Deedah (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 31, 1999.
Didn't those kids all get social security numbers when they were born? Did their parents become hysterical about that too?
C'mon. There's so much about schools that's completely screwed up, an identity tag -- much like the kids' parents wear to work if they are employed at a secured facility -- isn't anything to get upset about. Maybe the place will be a tiny bit safer. More likely the kids will just forget to bring them often enough that the whole thing will be discontinued.
-- you are number six (email@example.com), January 31, 1999.
Hey, Unc! Good to see ya!
number six, I think the real underlying issue here is: how far are we willing to go in the name of "safety" and "control" allowing our liberties to be eroded? If "they" get the little kiddies used to the idea of being barcoded, what else will we put up with in the name of "security"? Will you be OK with the idea of having all of your financial transactions "profiled" and reported to the authorities if you do anything outside of that profile? In the name of "crime prevention"? Would you want you or your children to be fingerprinted and have those prints in a central database, even though you've committed no crime? I'm sure you're a law abiding citizen, so it doesn't really matter, right? What about your medical records? Should they be accessible by companies or individuals that have no right to see them? Where does it end?
-- pshannon (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 31, 1999.
-- Kevin (email@example.com), January 31, 1999.
-- Uncle Deedah (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 31, 1999.
Hi Uncle! Very interesting article, thanks! While I think it's laughable that anyone could think wearing a bar code is the "mark of the beast," I am sick of the continuing invasion of privacy.
Number six said, "More likely the kids will just forget to bring them often enough that the whole thing will be discontinued."
Wrong! The next step is the same one they're using on our pets now, so they can quickly be identified: implanted ID chips.
All I can say is not MY kids!
-- Gayla Dunbar (email@example.com), January 31, 1999.
Don't see why anyone would bother with a barcode or ID card in a couple years. Nature kindly provided a very good one, and these boys have figured out how to read it.
-- Paul Davis (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 31, 1999.
Interesting.......I recently was lured out of a soft retirement because some rotten $&^#$%@ knew my weak spot and offered me money. So, two weeks ago I checked back in at the plant where I'd spent over 35 years. Major defense contractor. Hmm. I'd forgotten about all the security devices I put up with, including picture ID, magnetic cards, with card readers and associated PINS to get into specific spaces.
Not much different between a barcode and a card. Unc, I just realized I'd been a barcoded people for most of my life.
-- De (email@example.com), January 31, 1999.
De: You *were* working for a defense contractor, where security would HAVE to be high (since there'd have been a lot of Russian -and now possibly Chinese- spies hanging around, trying to get specs). I'd be surprised if the security there was NOT extremely high.
-- Leo (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 31, 1999.
seems to me that the thing to do would be to publish a web site on how to forge these ID's.
-- Arlin H. Adams (email@example.com), January 31, 1999.
If the people at that school are like some of the people who were at my school, black-market IDs will be available within 72 hours of the initial release, and usable, effective forged IDs (possibly hacked in order to allow greater access/increased limits/whatever) by the end of a week.
Imposing an artificial-law system like this will breed corruption. It will put undeserved money into the hands of the people who have access to ID-relevant stuff (anyone who has any excuse to go into administrative areas, for instance) and are prepared to be dishonest. And it will also make the teachers dependent on the cards; "I've never seen that kid around before, but since he's got a card, he MUST be a member..no need to check up on why he's in this class."
I can imagine some people using that. Using that to completely screw the system. Adding a big new facet like this will encourage corruption and allow it to spread. If you did it to adults, it mightn't be as corruptible. But kids in high-school spend a lot of time (some, ALL the time) trying to think of ways to fuck around with the system. And then carrying out those ways.
Trust me, I've got a lot of friends who used to BE those kids (or still are, in the case of the guys who haven't yet graduated). Homies have a lot more intelligence than you give `em credit for.
-- Leo (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 31, 1999.
Hmmm scary thought tho.... Think back people Hitler used to tatoo people on the arm with a number... Could you imagine what he would have used If he would had the technologie of barcodes? Yup your'e right !!!! It always starts with small stuff and escalates fast thing about this. This comes at a time where Intel is installing a generic ID into processors, States selling pictures of residents to private companies to :"" have a means of positive ID :"".... Feds demanding a backdoor for e-mail software so they can read your mail. ( Who wants to be so naive to think they get a :""Court order:"" to do so? ) And Banks report unusual account behavior to the FBI. Big Brother is watching and he gets better equipt to do so every day. Wanna bet this equipment will have no Y2k problem. Hey did you sent some encrypted e-mail lately? If you did you are on the list.
-- rickjohn (email@example.com), January 31, 1999.
SC Sells Drivers License Photos to Private Company
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) -- South Carolina has gone to court to block the use of 3.5 million driver's license photos it sold to a private company amid public outcry over the plan.
Reacting to angry callers to radio shows and state departments, the governor also promised to make it easier for people to keep their photos from being sold.
The $5,000 sale of license photos for use only in fraud prevention was authorized by the Legislature, but Attorney General Charlie Condon said the state's constitutional guarantee of privacy is more important. Condon filed suit to keep the photos from being used.
Intel Shipping New Computers with "Big Brother Inside"
(IDG) -- Intel's plan to ship its Pentium III chips with a processor serial number in the "off" position hasn't satisfied privacy groups, who have decided to expand their call for a boycott to include any PC manufacturer who ships a Pentium III system with the ID number, not just Intel.
Intel announced last week that it would include a processor serial number (PSN) in every one of its new Pentium III chips for online merchants to use in identifying and authorizing users for secure Internet commerce.
After privacy rights advocates complained that the PSN would allow sites to monitor and profile users without their consent, Intel announced that it would ship the chips with the PSN switched off. The company also said it would offer software that would allow users to switch the PSN on and off, and alert them if the PSN's mode was to be changed.
Anbody curious about that upside down 666 in 1999 yet?
-- a (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 31, 1999.
Schools have long required ID's, not just barcodes, but plastic cards with punched holes and mag strips. Main difference is requiring wearing them around the neck on public display. But this is standard in many institutions including hospitals and government buildings. Dog tags for kids! what's next...dog tags for everybody, then tatoos, maybe a programmable chip mixed with the anthrax vaccine? Iris recognition is an elegant solution to personal ID but has its own limitations and is more likely to serve as a 'password' rather than an ID.
-- Jon (email@example.com), February 01, 1999.