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i use my dreams to keep track of my anxieties, about y2k and everything else. here's one i recently had about the stock market, which was pretty easy to interpret, and clean, too.
i had the dream tuesday night, jan 19, probably prompted by the state of the union addressing the idea of putting social security money into stocks. in the dream, a huge herd of bulls have got loose and are rampaging around in an open-air farmer's market on Wall Street. the market is closed and the booths are all empty, but there is a man there cowering in a stall and unable to escape.
the authorities can't figure out how to save this man, but one guy volunteers to go in with a Paraplane and attempt a rescue. so he goes to Wall Street, which for some reason is in Houston instead of New York, in his Paraplane ultralight but just before he goes to snatch the man, the bulls all mysteriously disappear in the blink of an eye, poof!, making a rescue unnecessary. they don't run away, they just blink out. end of dream.
i think the guy being menaced by bulls is alan greenspan (he who is worried about irrational exuberance of the market), and the guy with the paraplane is President Clinton with his SSA stock purchase idea. the symbolism of the instantly disappearing bulls and of the empty marketplace doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out. but the part about Houston is interesting. to me, it means one thing--OIL/GAS is somehow involved.
i certainly hope this only reflects my anxieties, and is not precognitory. it was interesting to see alan greenspan the next day disagree with the President's idea. any one else got weird dreams? keep it clean, ok?
-- jocelyne slough (email@example.com), January 22, 1999
I had a dream nearly twenty years ago that I still remember almost every single day... and thats odd because usually I don't remember a dream three hours after I had it. But this one was different, and it wasn't very long, but it was meaningful enough...
(*Disclaimer- Dreams are certainly not addmissable in a court of law and probably not even addmissable in a tennis court, but you asked, and I'm giving you MHO... so don't jump down my throat with a bunch of flamer posts*)
My dream that I had so many years ago was that a certain large city in the Southern locale of the United States was devastated by a nuclear device sometime in the years 2000/2001. IN MY DREAM, I saw the flash, the mushroom cloud, the whole 9 yards. I was just a a boy of ten at the time and had never travelled outside my own neighborhood, so I didn't recognize the surroundings when I dreamt them. But about nine years later I realized which city I had seen... and it was unmistakably Memphis, Tennessee.
I'm very sorry if that upsets anyone... I myself have family there. It was just a dream OK?? And just becasue I can remember it 20 years later like it happened last night is no indication of anything, and now that I reread my post I'm considering not posting it at all. I don't know if this thread was a good idea, but please don't label me a troller, I'm NOT trying to get a reaction with this!! OK?... I was just telling you something that happened in my head.
-- (I'm not @ nostradamus.com), January 22, 1999.
My daughter is six. I had a dream before she learned how to talk. It took place in Chicago. She spoke to me and said "I'm cold Mommy" And then from the window I saw the mushroom cloud. I screamed "Don't look" and threw myself and my children on the floor. Next thing you know we are at peace rising through the air to heaven. It was very vivid. I totally forgot this dream until I became a GI and started to think about keeping my kids warm in Jan. in the Midwest.
Also last Aug. I was resting, not sleeping, and I saw an impossible to describe dark cloud hanging over the U.S. (I'm an artist I 'see things' all the time) oh, about 5 min. later they broke into radio programming to announce the embassy bombings. We as a nation have had little peace since. Recently I read that God uses clouds as imagery of His judgement. I have to research this myself and haven't confirmed this yet.
Anyway, dreams can be the result of Pizza at bedtime, but God spoke to people throughout the Bible in dreams. So....who knows.
By the way I don't really claim to be a Prophetess.
-- Deborah the Prophetess (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 22, 1999.
I had a "strong" dream just last night, and worried about it all day, when (twilight music theme heard now) I saw this post...
My paternal grandmother's house in Cleveland, Ohio. I was going through it room by room. This house was desgined by a famous architect and is on the historic register... but what noone knows is that the house has many secret panels and rooms that are hard to find. No kidding!
My grandmother was born in the deep south, her father and uncle were involved in the secession movement. She carried the memories (scars?) with her always. She had all these secret places to stash stuff, and maybe even people.
Last night I dreamed about all the secret panels and hard to locate rooms in her wonderful house in CLeveland... knowing as I was dreaming that there was a reason I was dreaming about it...
I think I will explore the crawl space below the house, just in
-- Jaygee Jay (email@example.com), January 22, 1999.
Many years ago I scanned a book by Ruth Montgomery. Was it in her dreams or did somebody tell her? It said great upheaval would befall and the government would be lead by an attractive leader who would make a public list of the "safe" places to live, and many would move. Anybody remember the details?
-- sleep walker (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 22, 1999.
About two years ago, before I understood anything about Y2K, I dreamed I was in some sort of public transit station consisting of transparent tubular corridors with escalators. I then realized that vast torrents of water were slamming against and all around these transparent structures, clearly threatening to tear them apart and inundate all within. I looked around and all the people were completely oblivious,continuing to go about their normal business.
-- Bill Byars (email@example.com), January 23, 1999.
Bill - you're describing the walkway system at Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris.
-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 23, 1999.
Your post reminds me of someone I know who had this "vision" - which came as I understand it, after a period of time in meditation on the Y2K issue:
She saw LONG lines of people, all ages, each with a cup in hand, waiting to receive their share of milk.
Since that day she has been on a intense schedule of preparation for the worst.
-- J (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 23, 1999.
As I mentioned, I am an artist. I have always prayed about God leading my work. Art is for Him. Not $$$. Anyway last year about this time I had a very vivid image for a painting. I never did it because it was to dark, to strange, not like anything I ever paint. I didn't even want to share it with my spouse (who is my biggest fan). Very dark colors. Lines of cars all the way to the horizen, people trapped in these lines agonized with frustration. Sheeple in mass before a Presidential podium. The President had the head of a snake. I could go on but this would be very long. I think about this now and I wonder....I didn't know anything about y2k then....but the snake thing....:-)
Also last month after praying at bed time, I was drifting off and I saw a 'person' on a throne all in white--very 'full of light' then I saw a figure all in black 'very dark' walk up and sit down next to the one in white I knew it was 'death' (didn't have a sicle). I became afraid and it disappeared. I still hadn't known anything about Y2k. The last things I had felt God speaking to me were Bible verses relating to 'waiting on him' I found links to y2k by 'accident' through 'Christianity Today' I investigated & after about 2 days...I GI.
Sorry this is so long. Also I don't care if people think I'm crazy. I think it sounds pretty crazy myself.
"But still I fear, and still I dare not laugh at the Madman.." ---Queen----The Prophet Song
-- Deborah the Prophetess (email@example.com), January 23, 1999.
Thanks for starting the thread. Thanks for no flames at her, so far. Please, all, contribute more y2k-related dreams. (Maybe a new thread every few days.) For the next few months, these may be as good as PR press releases for giving us information. Our psychological preparation -- as well as practice in showing respect to each other -- is worth giving space to here.
-- (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 23, 1999.
Not a dream per se but...
My brother, who is 55 and as straight as they come, is a DGI, a veritable DWGI - covers his ears whenever I so much as mention y2k... The other day, after a couple of beers had loosened him up a little, he said to me that he felt an overwhelming sense of imminent doom. He was perfectly perfectly serious, and on questioning he clammed up again - not wanting to deal with his feelings. He was born in Ireland, and often tells stories of his psychic abilities as a kid - a power that left him some 50 years or so ago. I'm now wondering if he might be getting a little second sight back, it certainly fits in with my own feel for humanity in the near term.
All quite spooky, but true.
Andy the doombrooder :)
"We're doomed I tell ye, doomed!"
Private Frazer, Dad's Army, Walmington-On-Sea Home Guard, 1939 (Undertaker)
-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 23, 1999.
I had an interesting dream involving whipped cream and Anna Nicole Smith...
I'm not sure what it meant though.
-- Uncle Deedah (email@example.com), January 23, 1999.
I have had a recurring dream for the last six or seven years. In it I am walking across the yard outside my home and suddenly the ground receeds away from me as I fly straight up into the air. It is very scary. The dream ends at about 300 ft.
-- Nikoli Krushev (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 23, 1999.
This is Jon at the Keyboard, not Jocelyne who first started this thread.
I work in the computer industry and I have been having the same very bad dream about Y2K for about six months. The dream always starts with Government Officials knocking on my door at home. They are wearing dark suits, white shirts, dark blue ties, dark glasses, and poor fitting trench coats. Ok, I know it sounds corny, but it is my dream.
I am informed that I have been "recruited" to work with and for the my state government to help fix their Y2K problems. I am escorted to their car and taken to an local airport where I meet many of my fellow computer sales and technical support people from around the area.
We are herded into a military transport, and after we are in the air, we are informed that because we did not actively try to solve the Y2K problem before it was a problem, we have been tried and convicted in abstentia for crimes against the public good.
We arrive in the state capital and are "asked" to put on bright lime color jumpsuits. We are all taken to various state buildings where we are to fix computers all day every day until the job is done. There are people there who arrived before us, several are chained to the table where they are working. "They tried to escape," we are told.
I wake up in a cold sweat every time and then ask myself if I am doing enough to get the word out. I have to answer no. If I leave it to someone else then I am just as much at fault as those who do nothing. For that reason, I have been and am even more now speaking out to get information out. If everyone who does GI talks only 2 others into GI and they do the same, in 90 days everyone above the age of 15 will be a GI. Then if only 50% do something about it, then there would be a good chance of heading this off before disaster strikes.
-- Jon Slough (email@example.com), January 23, 1999.
Jon, your dream is clearly a manifestation of the guilt you feel at not doing enough. It is curable.
Get off that keyboard right, you're wasting time. You should be working weekends. And no more than 6 hours of sleep at night, anything more is just plain luxury. Work the rest of the hours, with 15 minutes break 3 times a day. Eat at your desk. Take one day off every 2 weeks, and during that day, spend all your waking hours educating people into becoming GI's. Be relentless, walk on your feelings.
This should cure that recuring dream, but it's not fool-proof ;-)
-- Chris (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 23, 1999.
My eight year old son had a dream last night. We were going to church. He wasn't feeling very well & didn't want to go. We went. While we were gone a devestating tornado ripped through our area leaving our house untouched. When we got out of our car a ferocious T-Rex chased us. We ran as fast as we could. It didn't catch us.
Anyone out there interpret dreams?
-- Curious Mom (email@example.com), January 24, 1999.
Jon, check out what Clinton said about a Cyber Corp program:
-- Gayla Dunbar (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 24, 1999.
The sad part is that we, as a nation, would have very little to fear if we could just learn to MIND OUR OWN BIDNESS and stay out of the affairs of other countries!
-- Uncle Deedah (email@example.com), January 24, 1999.
Sleepwalker: I was trying to find the book you were asking about. Somewhat coincedental because last week, i was looking at my MIL's bookcases, and found an old (1965) book by Ruth Montgomery about Jeanne Dixon, called a Gift of Prophecy. I decided to look at what she had prophesied for the future, to see how they had come out. Here's a sampling, and it made me smile to read some of these. I wonder if this is the one you were trying to find? 1) While in trance, Jeanne saw a baby: "Jeane shifted her gaze back to the baby.He had by now grown to manhood, and a small cross which formed above him began to expand until it dripped over the earth in all directions. Simultaneously, peoles of every race, religion, and color each kneeling and lifting his arms in worshipful adoration, surrounded him. They were all as one..... What does it mean? Jeane feels that she has been shown that answr. A child, born somewhere in the middle east on 2/5'62, will revolutionize the world. Before the close of the century he will bring together all mankind in one all-embracing faith. This will be the foundation of a new christianity, with every sect and creed united through this man who will walk among the people to spread the wisdom of the almighty power. Mankidn will begin to feel the great force of this man in the early 1980's, and during the subsequent 10 years the world as we know it will be reshaped and revamped into one without wars or suffering. His power will grow greatly until 1999, at which time the peoples of this earth will probably discover the full meaning of the vision." 2)"Jeane Dixon foresees that this peace for which men long will dawn in the year 1999, but not before a world holocaust has shocked mankind into spiritual renewal." This world holocaust was supposed to take plaace in the 1980's. 'Our 2 biggest headaches will be the racial problem and Red China. Thru the latter's subversion and meddling in the racial strife, numerous african and asian nations will turn agains us and provoke a world war in the decade of the 1980's. Vietnam and korea will lead us into theis inevitable war with the chinese." 3) The republican party will be victorious at the polls in 1968, but within the following decade the 2-party system as we have known it will vanish from the american scene.
4) Last one, i promise:) After the holocaust period of the 80's, she forecasts that rome will once again become the world's foremost center of culture, learning, and religion; and that the middle eastern child whose birth she witnessed in the vision will unite all warring creeds and sects into one all-embracing faith. Kind of funny to see how weird those old prophecies seem today,huh?
-- Damian Solorzano (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 25, 1999.
good examples of dreams. for sleepwalker: the book you seek is "strangers among us" by ruth montgomery, about walk-ins. i remember she said a walk-in would be President before the year 2000. the prediction referred to a pole shift, i forget when. this person would direct people to safe areas ahead of time. that's what i remember. i have the book somewhere upstairs with several thousand others; i'm a paperbackaholic. if i happen to find it, i will let you know. somehow, it's hard to imagine President Clinton as a walk-in (somewhat similar to born-again). but who knows? if chuck colson, the watergate conspirator, could get religion, (which he did), anything is yet possible.
i must have been tired when i started this thread, as i somehow coined a new word--precognitory. of course i meant precognitive.
as for curious mom, looking for an interpreter. i think it's normal for an 8-year old boy to dream about tornados and t-rexes. (have you read calvin and hobbes lately?) when i was 8 years old, i frequently dreamed i was being chased by bears or wolves, and i always woke up with their hot breath on my neck. this was a realistic dream, since i grew up on a farm by a river, and frequently saw bears and wolves cross the fields, and my dog often would stand in the yard facing the woods and growl at something i couldn't see. i also dreamed of tornados, again realistic, as our farmyard took a direct hit from a tornado in august 1952. another time we had hail as big as softballs, which we saved in the freezer, and my father would startle guests by putting 1 whole hailstone in their drink-- a conversation piece. i dreamed of floods, again too commonplace where we lived.
-- jocelyne slough (email@example.com), January 25, 1999.
That last book "strangers among us" sounds similar. Thanks for the memory jogs Damian and jocelyne. Does sound antiquated now, but future still looking peculiar. jocelyne your father sounds like a neat guy.
-- sleep walker (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 25, 1999.
Well, I had my first dream last night that I would consider to be Y2k related. I was standing in an unloading area for trucks (sort of like a dock area for grocery stores) waiting for a truck to come in. The truck was supposed to be filled with bags of rice. I had gotten permission from the store owner to get my rice right off of the truck. (My son works for a grocery store, I don't know if that had something to do with it.) No one else was around except for a few workers. I woke up before the truck got there. The funny thing is, we don't eat much rice. But, I'm headed to Sam's today, and guess what I'm buying???
-- Gayla Dunbar (email@example.com), January 25, 1999.
About 15 yrs ago, I visited for the first time my great-grandparents farm. As soon as I stepped onto the property, I had an over-whelming feeling that the place had been "waiting" for me. Its very hard to put into words.....During the following few months though, I had recurring dreams in which I would "see" my great-grandmother welcoming me (I knew it was her, although I had never met her, nor even seen a picture of her). I had NO desire to move to this place, tucked away in a tiny rural village in Canada, in almost a different WORLD from my home and friends in Southern California.
I went back to my home and life, and more or less forgot the entire experience. Then, approximately 5 years later, the farm was given to me through an amazing series of events!
A couple of years later, another amazing series of events led my hubby and I to visit the farm again and decide to build a little summer cabin on it, even though it was 3000 miles away from our home. Soon the planned "cabin" became a full-fledged, larger-than-we-needed house and we ended up moving permanently to it. As it was being built, we discovered a large area that was supposed to be attic space, but lent itself to be finished off as a room, complete with giant "hidden" room, a-la-Anne Frank.
All the time we were building, I continuously had strange feelings about this place being a "haven for many". I knew nothing about Y2K at that time, and although it is true that I was becomming more and more dis-enchanted with the political/moral/economic climate in our world, I was certainly not a "doomsdayer". However, I simply couldn't shake the feeling that I was being used to prepare a refuge of some sort....not just for ourselves, but for "many". In fact, many decisions were made with this "feeling" conciously in mind! At times I even wondered about my sanity.....The feeling was so strong however, that I verbalized it to a number of friends and acquaintances, and even went so far as to send little "emergency" maps for them to find us should the need arise.
There were MANY strange things that happened......including the unbelievabe, many would say "miraculous" way the money to build everything we needed landed in our hands.
Then last March, when I became aware of Y2K, it was as if the "picture" in my mind suddenly came into focus, and I understood....
If I am "insane", so be it. At least it's not painful ;o)!!
-- Sheila (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 25, 1999.
As a child, I had only two nightmares that I remember, both while I was feverish. I also had a dream. In it, I was walking to the store to get bread(?) with a bunch of other people. We were attacked and everyone else in the group was killed, I lay quietly until our attackers left then ran home. I awoke briefly, then went back to sleep and dreamed that since we still needed bread, I went with another group a different route to the store. Again about a block from home, we were attacked and all others in the group were killed, and I hid among the bodies until the attackers left. I called to God, "Why?!" and He responded, "You are my beloved child." I remember discussing this with a friend (and priest), who interpretted it spiritually, but I was not really convinced that he was right. With Y2K in sight, I'm even less convinced.
A more recent vision showed me people living on islands in God's ocean (love). He called them to live in His love and some ran to live in land at the highest peaks from the ocean, some splashed in the shallows, others swam and dived along the coast while they lived in houses built at the waters edge, some swam out to live in His love, and as they did, they changed, becoming able to do just that. I also noticed that even those who tried hardest to live away from the water were given showers, rain.
Personally, my challenge is to prepare, and to trust El, not my preparations.
-- Tricia the Canuck (email@example.com), January 28, 1999.
I had a dream, about three years ago. Most of the people I knew were with me, at school. Some massive disaster was coming, and none of us (except me- I somehow knew the disaster was on the way) had any idea. People were going about doing their normal thing (not in classes; everyone was doing their own thing, although I think I remember a couple of small classes happening) and I was walking around everywhere trying to see what the disaster was, and trying to warn people.
Then something happened, and everyone realised that they were going to die. Someone, (a friend of mine who writes) took a bottle of suicide-pills and went to an empty, remote classroom to take the pills at a desk, with a pen in his hand recording how it felt to die. Another guy decided to play football. I remember throwing petrol all over a heap of all my AD&D/roleplaying stuff (a huge collection I'd been collecting for four years at the time, spending hundreds or thousands of dollars) and burning it because it was useless. Two years later, I *gave* away most of it for the exact same reason, because it was a useless distraction.
Someone was doing something with a computer. At first I thought he was playing Doom, but then I saw he was programming. He told me that if he finished this program, everything would be alright. I asked him how much he had to go, because I *very* much wanted everything to be alright and my writing friend not to die. He said that he was telling everyone he'd probably finish it on time because one of the teachers had told him to. But then he told me that it would probably never be finished because he'd been working for hours and was only 2% finished.
Another weird thing was the encounter I had with my present girlfriend, who I've known for five years. At the time of this dream, three years ago, we were NOT together. We were in fact rivals and enemies. Neither of us would have been upset if the other had vanished, or died horribly. The idea of us being friends -let alone being together- was laughable. (This was not a love-hate thing. This was a hate-hate thing in which my friends hated hers, and vice versa. We REALLY disliked each other.) Anyway, she and I were together (no explanation was given. In the dream, she simply walked up and I knew she was my gf). She still refused to believe that anything would happen, even though it was evident all around that we would all die. But then there was a riot with some football players, and she suddenly GI. (Very similar to an experience three or four days ago, on the weekend, that got her asking serious GI-type questions.) She and I (in real life, remember, we HATED each other and would have been glad to see each other die) came up with a plan to get out. And then some people appeared with blood on their faces, and they seemed to infect others. I remember seeing it like an expanding pyramid of chain reactions; one person infects others, who in turn affect more. Gf and I were watching it from the sewers; she'd said, "We'll find safety in a concrete wall" and for some reason I'd interpreted it as the sewers rather than a secure building (this was BEFORE I'd heard of the Battle of Salamis and the wooden wall of Themistocles.) Anyway, we were hiding underground and watching it through drain gratings, although somehow I was seeing it all from above.
I'm very curious as to whether any circumstances will force me underground. I'd forgotten about the dream for years, incidentally, until gf and I went from being friends (hatred somehow became respectful dislike and then friendship) to being closer than that. Actually, it was about the same time as we got together, that I began to GI.
-- Leo (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 28, 1999.
I hestitated to answer this thread. Most people think that if you "see things" that you need medication or something. I have had "the gift" since I was a girl. It comes and goes.
As a girl, I had a recurring dream for years about the Sunshine bridge in Tampa Bay. I knew it was that bridge because I had been there and I recognized it. I dreamt that I was in one of 3-4 vehicles (a bus, truck, car) in the back seat. Suddenly, the bridge in front of the vehicle gave way and I would plummet into the water. The dreams stopped after the bridge was hit by a tanker and the vehicles I had in my dream went off. This was only one of many such experiences. Some of these visions come when I am awake. If I see them, they come true. They are all bad.
Two nights ago I woke up and started crying. Sometimes, I experience the feelings and thoughts of the person who the vision is about. A little girl of 4-6 years old was crying and saying "My mommy is dead". Thats it. This morning I woke up crying again. I do not know why.
I do know that I have very BAD feeling about Y2K. I could not sleep well for weeks after I "got it". I had the distinct feeling that something BAD was going to happen. I also had the STRON feeling that if you were going to prepare, you had better HURRY. That was before I "knew anything" except that the problem existed. For my particular circumstance, the sense of urgency was correct.
Believe it or not, it is all true. Take it or leave it. Over the past few years, I have felt COMPELLED to save money. I like to shop and travel. I saved anyway. During this same period of time, I have lived with GRAVE fear for my sister because she was not saving much in addition to retirement funds and was carrying some debt. I could not explain the strenght of these feelings until I knew about Y2K.... I am not usually much of a worrier. Only on the biggest things. Before Y2K, the last thing I was hyper about was my husband looking for another job. I felt COMPELLED that he do so and felt a STRONG sense of urgency. He got a new job. ON HIS LAST DAY of his previous job, the company announced that they were closing that division.
-- sigthted (sighted@dont talk about it.com), January 28, 1999.
Sorry about the mistyped words. My computer keeps timing out in mid word/sentence. One sentence is in the wrong place too????
-- sighted (sighted@dont talk about it.com), January 28, 1999.
Well, it wasn't a dream, and it wasn't mine, and I've already shared it on an earlier thread, but here goes:
September last year, I was caring for an invalid old lady in our local hospital (I'm an RN). She had serious breathing/lung problems, has been in-and-out of the hospital for several years, and has "died" a couple times (near-death experiences). Her doctor, a GP from India, jokingly calls her "my psychic".
While giving her some medication, we started a conversation about how the community had changed since she was a little girl during the Depression. At one point, she got a far-away look in her eyes, and just said:
"There's going to be starvation."
"Um hm. Millions will die. Nobody believes this...."
I said (after gasping and gulping), "Okay, when? Dates, times?"
She stared off for a second or two, then said, "Two years. Less than two years, now."
And this lady knew NOTHING about y2k.
I tell you, it gave me chills. It still does.
-- Anita Evangelista (email@example.com), January 29, 1999.