Though Grace Hopper and Ada Lovelace are implicated in the crimes, I declare it is men who've royally screwed up this world. First they invent all the goddamn technology, only to practically blow up the world with it, then finally screw it up royally as we collapse over the finish line, with this date problem. Now look, in the Milne and InfoMagic scenes, it all reverts back to men running around with shotguns killing one another in their little war games (and probably raping the women whenever possible).

-- Lily (Lily@Marlene.com), January 21, 1999

Answers

Lily--

Who raised all those nasty men? Could it be their *mamas*? COME ON, lighten up. Men are people too! (I think) :)

-- Scarlett (ohara@tara.net), January 21, 1999.

You know Lily, you are right. There was something wrong with my first date and it's been date trouble ever since.

-- Tomcat (tomcat@tampabay.rr.com), January 21, 1999.

Get real Lily! I'm a woman, and many on this thread know my stand on guns. Quit with the male bashing, it won't fly too far on this thread.

-- bardou (bardou@baloney.com), January 21, 1999.

I'm the only decent man I know.

-- King of Free Estimates (Isdecent@this.time), January 21, 1999.

I'm a guy. Two daughters & a great (stay at home) wife. I would gladly give my life if it would save one of theirs. Anyway...

I seem to remember a US Government study of mock nuclear "war games" where the study sought to find if men & woman reacted differently when it came time to "push the nuclear button". *IF* I remember correctly, in general, the woman were much faster to "push the nuclear button". Men would get pretty nasty and make a lot of idle threats, but the woman didn't make idle threats...

Hell hath no fury...

-- Anonymous99 (Anonymous99@anonymous.com), January 21, 1999.

Stupidity and incompetance hath no boundaries regarding sex, race, or creed.

-- Tim (pixmo@davenport.edu), January 21, 1999.

But Lily Love...we build and do all this for you girls. "Damned if you do and damned if you don't." I work 150 miles from home (in the mountains) and thus cannot be home every night. What do I get? Whinning! Wonder what it would sound like if I just stayed home and drank beer all day long?

-- Mark Hillyard (foster@inreach.com), January 21, 1999.

If it weren't for men, you would be posting in German now. How dare you bash men. Your freedom was bought with the blood of men willing to die to defend it. Rent the video of "Saving Private Ryan" when it comes out, you may understand what I am talking about. Worship the men in your life, because they may have to defend your freedom again.

-- Bill (bill@microsoft.com), January 21, 1999.

uh, Bill? Weren't those Germans MEN? I love men, for better and for worse, what else can I do? But, just for the sake of argument, I can't remember a single scene in 'Saving Private Ryan' in which a female was rattling a saber. Or a firearm.

Maybe we should do away with this business of having two sexes. Think about it. How many conflicts (large and small) start out as preening or posturing for the opposite sex? Then comes jealousy, and the whole business of ownership, and paternity and ....

Let's all be like the happy little worms! What's the word? Androgenous? Hermerphodetic? Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle!!! :)

-- Arewyn (nordic@northnet.net), January 21, 1999.

Lily Marlene. Didn't I meet you one time underneath the lamp post by the barracks gate? I can only hope you were waiting for a man. Seriously though, superior upper body strength may become very important during the trying times to come. In my humble opinion, it is only technology and a strong voting block that has allowed women the equality that they enjoy today. The future may be scarce on both of these items. You may not have the luxury of biting a hand when TSHTF.

Bill in South Carolina

-- Bill Solorzano (notaclue@webtv.net), January 21, 1999.

Easy boys. She's just trying to jerk your chains. Unless she's forgotten that women are also computor programers. Lily, your last sentence worries me. Are you a rape victim? Get help if so. It isn't good to take your anger toward one person out on the entire male population of the world. I know, from personal experience, how it hurts inside. Please, talk to someone about it.

-- Flagirl (Flagirl@mrssurvival.zzn.com), January 21, 1999.

That's why I would vote for Elizabeth Dole if she ran for president in 2000. I think it's time for women to rule the world. They should have an equal opportunity to screw things up...

-- pshannon (pshannon@inch.com), January 21, 1999.

Some posts shouldn't be dignified with a response.

-- Vic (68rdrunneris@compliant.com), January 21, 1999.

Then why has Switzerland not been in a war for centuries? Why is their crime rate insignificant compared to ours?

Women weren't allowed to vote until past the middle of this century. The Swiss always have been, and still are, armed to their teeth.

And, most importantly, few Swiss barely know what their head cheese looks like. He is not a cheerleader-lier.

-- TTF (seenit@ww2.com), January 21, 1999.

There was a wonderful old movie entitled, "The Third Man" When the Swiss were brought up, in this Post war Europe film, the Character played by Orson Wells said, "The Swiss, 500 years of peace and all they have developed are fine chocolates and the cuckoo clock" I didn't know they had woman suffrage for so long.

Bill in South Carolina

-- Bill Solorzano (notaclue@webtv.net), January 21, 1999.

yup, the men and boys go to war, while moms and sisters nod approvingly. i seem to recall it was the women that would pass out the white feathers to any able-bodied man not wearing a uniform.

-- jocelyne slough (jonslough@tln.net), January 21, 1999.

And in Sparta, the mothers gave their sons a shield before battle - and the warning: "Come back with your shield (victorious - a loser threw his shield away to run faster), or on it. (Dead, carried by your fellow soldiers)."

Get real lady, ain't nothing no guy does unless its to either get a mate, or impress and keep a mate he already has happy. You think we've been working and hunting and fighting for the last 100,000 years becasue we like facing charging woolly mamoths? Hell, we needed the hide to take back to cave so you would be warm enough the next morning to be happy enough to snuggle with......

And been looking for goodies ever since.

-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), January 21, 1999.

Bill served up the following defense: If it weren't for men, you would be posting in German now

Might I point out who the hell it was doing all the attacking that we poor shrinkin' violet gals had to be protected from ? German men !

-- Lily (Lily@Marline.com), January 21, 1999.

Men are dinks. They think with their dicks. Now, a woman would have planned ahead and used 4 digits in the computer date field. NOT TWO. YADA YADA!!!!

Peace, love and keep your zippers up guys...if you can!

-- Yo Mama (VirginMary@garden.com), January 21, 1999.

A LADY by the name of Grace Hopper "invented" COBOL.

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), January 21, 1999.

Bah. Either Lyly has penis envy or she's never seen a good one.

Get over it Lyly, or remain screwed up but don't bother the good men for your problems.

-- Chris (Catsy@pond.com), January 21, 1999.

"I think it's time for women to rule the world. They should have an equal opportunity to screw things up... "

That's my only regret pshannon, I wish the men were meaner and gave me more opportunities to screw up our world.

-- Chris (catsy@pond.com), January 21, 1999.

I simply can not believe such ignorance and stupidity exists. Lily, I hope you'll forgive my childishness, but you suck. You can complain all that you want, but you are NOT exempt from this. If you had any real voice in politics, I'm sure that you would do your best to bring the women's rights movement back to circa 1800. So much for equality, it's your fault! This is NOT a male or female issue! There are enough pointing fingers in this issue already, there is no need to complicate it with the issue of sex (especially when it doesn't make any sense). I hope that you are a troll, because if you are serious, you've got more problems than we (as a Y2K forum) can deal with. I'm already angry enough about the "President's" comments on Y2K. You only serve to infuriate a great deal of hard working people even further. F you!

-- d (d@dgi.com), January 22, 1999.

d, ok, ok. The other gentleman had the right idea, this wasn't a good to say on some a thread, sorry. Let's just say PEOPLE suck and let this die, OK ? Sorry for it,

Lily

-- Lily (Lily@Marlene.com), January 22, 1999.

Can't resist...

Two new chemical elements have recently been discovered. Here, for the first time, is a description of their properties:

Element Name: WOMAN

Symbol: WO

Atomic Weight: Don't even go there!

Physical Properties: Generally round in form. Boils at nothing and may freeze any time. Melts whenever treated properly. Very bitter if not used well.

Chemical Properties: Very active. Highly unstable. Possesses strong affinity to gold, silver, platinum, and precious stones. Violent when left alone. Able to absorb great amounts of exotic food. Turns slightly green when placed next to a better specimen.

Usage: Highly ornamental. An extremely good catalyst for dispersion of wealth. Probably the most powerful income reducing agent known.

Caution: Highly explosive in inexperienced hands.

************

Element Name: Man

Symbol: XY

Atomic Weight: 180 +/- 50

Physical Properties: Solid at room temperature, but gets bent out of shape easily. Fairly dense and sometimes flaky. Difficult to find a pure sample. Due to rust, aging samples are unable to conduct electricity as easily as young samples.

Chemical Properties: Attempts to bond with WO any chance it can get. Also tends to form strong bonds with itself. Becomes explosive when mixed with Kd (Element: Child) for prolonged periods of time. Neutralize by saturating with alcohol.

Usage: None known. Possible good methane source. Good samples are able to produce large quantities on command.

Caution: In the absence of WO, this element rapidly decomposes and begins to smell.

-- Shimrod (shimrod@lycosmail.com), January 22, 1999.

Thanks Shimrod! Finally we have scientific explanations for gender differences! I love it, it's a keeper! ROFLMAO!

Your scientists have totally overlooked a phenomenon in the WO element:

A disturbance in its chemical properties that happens monthly, seemingly in rhythm with the moon and perhaps affected by it? Also observed was a tendency for the element to become even more highly unstable and simply looking at it made it explode during this phase.

"Usage: None known. Possible good methane source. Good samples are able to produce large quantities on command."

I have a rare specimen in my house, it can make-out a tune with the methane byproducts. ROFL! I've found many uses for my specimen, comes in handy to clean the dishes, or scare the kids with.

-- Chris (catsy@pond.com), January 22, 1999.