Okay, what's in your Bug Out Bag? Besides water, food, clothes, first aid kit, candles, matches, space blanket, towelettes, bible, cash?

-- Jaz (zippity@doo.da), January 19, 1999

Answers

I'm doing mine now - the bag is not big enough!!!

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 19, 1999.

And there is not enough time left to get all the things I need..

-- Bob Barbour (r.barbour@waikato.ac.nz), January 19, 1999.

FWIW the bag I have is from the North Face and is bomb-proof, they use it on Everest expeditions, black, like a big duffle, plastic heavy duty zips, mesh pockets, lots of handles, can also be used as a makeshift rucksack.

Not cheap - $100'ish, but it is the dogs' bollocks ;)

Andy

Two digits. One mechanism. The smallest mistake.

"The conveniences and comforts of humanity in general will be linked up by one mechanism, which will produce comforts and conveniences beyond human imagination. But the smallest mistake will bring the whole mechanism to a certain collapse. In this way the end of the world will be brought about."

Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan, 1922 (Sufi Prophet)

"We're doomed I tell ye, doomed!"

Private Frazer, Dad's Army, Walmington-On-Sea Home Guard, 1939 (Undertaker)

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 19, 1999.

Here is my 45 lb pack list. The philosophy is that I wanted gear that is 1) lightweight as possible, 2) multi-use, and 3) useable for ordinary backpacking, so as to justify the higher expense. It is intended for short-term use, but with resupply from caches, is suitable for long-term use. Medical supplies: Collapsible toothbrush, and floss. .5oz - use for dental hygiene, floss for repairs 1 roll gauze .5oz - wound binding, emergency limb wrap, emergency rope Moleskin, 6pcs, 3"x4" 1oz 2 Ace Bandage, small 2.5oz - wrap injuries, emergency limb wrap, emergency rope. Lg military bandage, 4"x7" 1.5oz 2 pair rubber gloves 1.5oz - sanitation, butchering, first aid,emergency gloves in cold Petroleum jelly, in container 2oz - lip salve, dry skin, emerg. firestarter Tweezers, tick remover, safetypins (8) .5oz Eyeglass tool with screws .5oz - eyeglass repair, has magnifying glass on it. Scalpel blades (3) .25oz - emerg. butchering, surgery Straight razor 1.25oz - shaving, surgery, butchering Betadine 2oz Thyroblok, 1 bottle 1oz - protection for thyroid from fallout 1 week's vitamins (extendible to 2 weeks) 3.5oz Anti-pain pills 2oz Hemostat .75oz - Emerg. wound repair, emerg. pliers Sutures(4), with needle .25oz Immodium Tabs (6) or anal suppositories with Compazine. .5 oz - for vomiting/diarrhea Antibiotic Creams 3oz New Skin 1.5oz - replaces Bandaids, and can use as emergencyrepair glue also. Ear drops, 1oz Toe nail scissors 1oz - to help avoid foot problems, can cut things also total med supplies: 29oz Shelter Hammock with cord 8.5oz - sleep in, net fish, carry gear, many uses Poncho: 2 Civilian (Campmor, Forest Green, not ideal, but light), or 1 of the Military Issue 24oz - use for tent, raingear, emerg. raft, catch rainwater, etc. Space Blanket, Heavy OD (military) 10oz Bug netting 4oz Ground sheet, 3-4mil plastic, clear 5oz - groundsheet, emerg. solar still, lay on to reduce bugs while in hammock. Use to protect water bladder. total shelter supplies wt: 51.5oz Part 3 - Food/water supplies 1.3qt pan, Titanium (Evernew) $40+ 6oz Water filter, Katydyn mini filter 8oz Food-Datrex Emerg. Rations (4800 cal) 32oz 1 qt container, Platypus 1 litre .75oz Pouch for above, REI 1.25oz Stainless steel cup, Coleman $5 from Campmor 3.5oz Spoon, steel 1oz Water, 3 qts 96oz Water Purification tabs, 1 bottle 1.5oz Water bladder w/bite tube, Gregory Hydrocell w/out cover (use groundsheet to protect it) 5oz Salt 4oz Seeds, non-hybrid, 3oz total food/water supplies: 162oz Essential clothing (temperate climate) Thermal underwear, top & bottom, Thermax, etc 16oz Socks w/liner, Thorlo 6oz Gloves, lightwt camo 2.5oz Balaclava, Outdoor Research Windstopper Fleece 2.5oz Bandanna, camo color, 1oz Baseball type cap (blend in when visiting town, also decent for sun protection), 2oz Shirt and shorts, lightweight 13oz total Essential clothing: 46.5oz, assuming that you wear pants and another shirt. MiscelaneousParachute cord, 100 feet 5.5oz Whistle and compass 2oz Flashlight, Mini-mag w/red filter, headstrap, 2 batts 5.75oz Solar battery charger, Solar World-Edmond Scientific 2oz (takes awhile to charge though) Rechargeable batts, 2 extra 2oz Sharpening stone, small 1.5oz Pencil & paper 1oz Duct tape, camo/OD, wrap around pencil for convienence 1oz Magnifier, 20x for microfiche 1.5oz Microfiche (books full of info easily useable) 2oz Rubber Fletching and fish arrowhead 2oz Liquid soap 4oz Bug repellent 3oz Plastic trowel 2.5oz 2 clothes pins .5oz Candle in aluminum container 4oz 2 wiresaws 3oz P38 canopener, negligible weight Camo facepaint w/mirror 2.5oz Magnesium firestarter 1.75oz Hurricane matches, 2 pkgs 1oz Cigarette lighter .75oz Scrub Pad, - clean pot, or self .5oz Spices 3oz Plastic bags and ties for stuff 4oz Snare wire 4oz Fishhooks and line 2oz Pack-old style Kelty Cornice (no longer made) 48oz Spare eyeglasses w/Croakie strap and case 3oz total misc items : 113.75oz total wt of pack = 402.75 oz (25.17lbs) Optional extras Sleeping bag, lightweight, Moonstone Minima 40oz Extra food 32oz extra clothing, basically mandatory 32+oz Gatoraide, or similar drink to mask bad water taste and provide minerals 4oz Gold/cash , in 1/10th oz coins 2oz Now add a weapons module:Weapons Option 1 CAR-15 w/Stowaway grip, self-luminous sights, Leopold 2-7 Compact scope w/ ARMS mount, plastic bipod 135oz (can get with fluted barrel, and this reduces weight by 8-12 oz).22LR adapter w/20 rd mag 16oz .223 mags, 1 30-rd, 2 20rd 11.5oz .223 ammo 80 rds (60rds 64gr SP, 20 rds SS-109) 34oz .22LR ammo, 200 rds 26oz SOG tool (pocket type tool) 6oz Gun cleaning kit and spare parts 7oz Pistol, Firestar (home lightened up) w/2 mags 30oz 48rds 9mm ammo, Magsafe 14.25oz total weapon option 1 wt: 277.75oz (17.4lbs) Weapon Option 2 Papoose .22LR rifle w.self-luminous sights and scope 62oz 2 extra 15rd mags 4oz .22LR ammo, 300 rds 39oz Cleaning kit and spare parts 7oz Pistol, Firestar (home lightened up) w/2 mags 30oz 9mm ammo, 48 rds, Magsafe 14.25oz total option 2 wt: 154.25oz (9.7lbs) Add Option 1 to basic pack, and you get 682.5 oz (42.6 lbs). Add to this some optional extras, and you can keep it under 45lbs. This pack is definitely spartan, but will do for you if you need it. Any ideas or comments are welcome.

-- Bill (billclo@hotmail.com), January 19, 1999.

Wow, the formatting really got screwed up when I transferred the info over.

-- Bill (billclo@hotmail.com), January 19, 1999.

My bug out bag:

Hunting knife, compass, folding saw, 200 waterproof mathes, 5 bic lighters, very lightweight small hamock, large camo pancho, extra change of clothes from foot to head, 40' polyethylene rope, comprehensive first aid kit, manual water filter, fifty water purification tabs, canteen, small binoculars, waterproof fire sticks, 2 medium towels, platic bags, mosquito head net ( a must!), bath kit ( glycerine soap, ear swabs, toothbrush/paste, nailclippers), heavy duty work belt, 150 extra rounds for .40 Beretta ( the pistol of champions in my opinion) 300+ marijuana seeds and necessary smoking paraphenelia (optional but certainly makes a hike more enjoyable, trust me! and worth the wait to grow as hemp makes an invaluable barter item)

Well thats about it, but I may do an overhaul to as I do a priority survival list and weight check. Trying to keep it under 40lbs. So far it is but thats without a days worth of food I try to coordinate in the backpack. I also carry the pistol in a seperate easy to reach pouch and another empty fannysack to have for items that need constant referance ( maps, snacks, compass, whatever you desire)

-- (anonymous@hightimes.com), January 19, 1999.