What the hell is going on in this country ?

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Can somebody please explain THIS ? Life is getting just too weird.


-- Vronsky (vronsky@anna.com), January 10, 1999


Well, that is literally sick. Rivals the black helicopter stuff.

Knowing nothing about airplanes, can't speculate. But if I ever see this happening in the sky, I'll know to run inside, shut everything up tight, and not go back out for a while.

Nope, we won't mind leaving this planet. It's been nice some of the time but can't last forever.

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-- Leska (allaha@earthlink.net), January 11, 1999.

Pay attention class: 1+1=2 and so on. U.N. goal, cut world population by 4 billion in year 2000. Al Gore was there. South America. Ring any bells?

-- Nikoli Krushev (doomsday@y2000.com), January 11, 1999.

Decidedly strange.

Is there alternate confirmation for this? And the government wonders "why" many don't "trust" them.

Think that one actually rates a few e-mails after additional back-up research. Hummm ... Art Bell, the National Guard, American Red Cross, Greenpeace, etc. Who are the other societal "watch dogs?"


-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), January 11, 1999.

These are airplanes, visible things. Surely it should be possible for a determined person, or a chain of people, to figure out where they're flying from and landing..

-- Leo (lchampion@ozemail.com.au), January 11, 1999.

Get a grip on reality people. Have seen this for many years - it is due to proper atmospheric conditions for ice crystals to form around the bits of carbon left after a jet engine passes by. Nothing else. Counted 45 one day about 20 years ago when conditions were just right. Conditions were so good that the contrails spread and merged, eventually leading to a high hazy overcast that persisted for some time. Did not get sick or anything else. Suspect that if I had been silly enough to stand with my head tilted back for a couple or three hours I would have gotten dizzy and sick.

-- Paul Davis (davisp1953@yahoo.com), January 11, 1999.

" Pay attention class: 1+1=2 and so on. U.N. goal, cut world population by 4 billion in year 2000. Al Gore was there. South America. Ring any bells? "

Does anyone remember the WSJ front page article several years ago about a Norwegian(?) "philospher" who predicts/recommends/surmises that the world's population has to be reduced by several billions via wars/starvation/pestilence?

How would one find this article?

-- fly . (.@...), January 11, 1999.

Oh dear, now on top of having to worry about black helicopters, we have to lookout for white planes!

Seriously, the shear amount of jets and contrails dumping fuel in the atmosphere has to polute and make it toxic. No matter what that fuel contains.

-- Chris (catsy@pond.com), January 11, 1999.

Fly, very likely you are thinking of Arne Naess, founder of Deep Ecology, and a well-known Norwegian social/political philosopher. Don't have the WSJ article, link but here's a typical sample of his work:

htt p://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/7157/summary.html

-- Runway Cat (runway_cat@hotmail.com), January 11, 1999.

I doubt very much that any serious program to reduce the population would either (a) start on this country or (b) be so ineffective as this report indicates.

From the NOAA image, it looks to me much more like a large-scale military exercise with something else entirely in mind, carried on with utter indifference to environmental effects. Maybe even in ignorance of those effects. This would not be breaking new ground, by any means.

Paul Davis is right in his description of contrails, and the results of kinking your neck staring up in the sky for a while. But he conveniently ignores the reports of "severe diarrhea and fatigue ," " a taste in our mouth," "plants began dying," "swollen hands and legs, night fever and shortness of breath," "cobwebbing stuff coming down." (Of course all these folks could be making up stories.)

If contrails could make these things happen most of Atlanta would be calling in sick every day. On any clear day here dozens of contrails can be seen, most probably from commercial jets, some obviously from military aircraft (higher and faster than the commercials).

One remark in the report, "Passenger jets don't make contrails that stay and become clouds," is just plain flat out wrong. Contrails at higher elevations often do exactly that. Some climatologists believe these induced cloud patterns are affecting global weather patterns.

All that said, it would be helpful to have some confirmation of the report.

-- Tom Carey (tomcarey@mindspring.com), January 11, 1999.

French scientist reports in Nature that worldwide the contrails of jets are enough to contribute to global warming.

-- fly . (.@...), January 11, 1999.

"These are airplanes, visible things. Surely it should be possible for a determined person, or a chain of people, to figure out where they're flying from and landing.."

Yes Leo, just jump in your car, with your head out the window, looking up, while driving at 500 miles per hour! Why didn't I think of that?

-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), January 11, 1999.

I publish a newsleter- Trends and Predictions Analyst-- With your permission - may I send you a recent copy? I have an article on the chemtrails that I think you would like... Seems traces of bubonic plague have allegedly been found in samples of the chemtrail "stuff" that floats to the ground...

My theory is that there is a comnnection with the toxins of the "chemtrail stuff" and the worldwide inoculation of military personnel with anthrax cvaccine... Also - with some towns experiencing mass illnes - and some deaths (all in the article I can send) - electronically via email... I theorize that the chemical spraying has something to do with a "thinning" of the world's population-- a sort of extermination program ( or pogrom) -- no direct evidence of this - all circumstantial -- but nonetheless -- I think the chemtrail enigma needs to be looked at from all angles-- a multdisciplined research: political, economic, and demographic-- with military and economic overtones...

I thank you for your interest. Patrick O'Connell Albuquerque, NM (the chemtrails are a regular feature of our skies - here-- seems "they" whoever "they" are have some connection to the DIA - Defense Intelligence Agency-- according to facts disclosed to me by an acquaintance.......

-- patrick oconnell (poconnell9@bigfoot.com), October 21, 2000.

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