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this forum has degenerated into...geesh I don't know
-- John Howard (Greenville, NC) (email@example.com), January 04, 1999
Troll alert. Troll alert.
-- Kevin (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 04, 1999.
Jimmy Bagga Doughnuts incognito maybe?
-- c (email@example.com), January 04, 1999.
It seems to be degenerating into gushing, totally unfounded optimisim, John, based on your latest posts. Its 1999, dude, wake up!
-- Jack (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 04, 1999.
John: If we all thought alike, this would be a boring forum.
-- bardou (email@example.com), January 04, 1999.
Yeah, Howard. It has degenerated. It has degenerated into a bunch of adolescent unfounded touchy feely pollyanna-ism by the likes of you. You offer no facts, no evidence, no support whatsoever.
We will always be saddled with unreasoning goons like you. People who have not the common sense to understand that you DIE if you did not prepare enough but NOTHING happens if you prepare too much.
A five year old can conceptualize that.
But you whine and cry about being treated rudely. Idiots deserve little respect at all. And whiners, none.
-- Paul Milne (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 04, 1999.
Actually, I would say that it has fallen into the unproven assumption that TEOTW is nigh. I'm seeing a ton of FACTS that don't support that assumption. But, posting something that shows anything but D&G is now an almost certain guarentee of flames.
-- Paul Davis (email@example.com), January 04, 1999.
Paul D: I keep seeing references to being "flamed" but I don't really see it. To me, "flamed" means, in effect, to be harassed, like in the case of multiple postings that just say "That's stupid" or something like that.
Facts are all we should ever be discussing, and they should always be welcome. But, obviously, they will continue to be subject to widely varying interpretations....
-- Jack (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 04, 1999.
According to many predictions by TEOTWfolks, we should be virtually shut down already by the JAE. If not that, the Euro conversion should have failed miserably resulting in the shutting down of international financial markets.
However, here we are and not much signs of major catastrophies..........
Sure, the 01/01/2000 turnover will be more dramatic, but it would nice if occassionally the TEOTWjunkies would start being a bit more objective. Seems like they gloss over any good news or anything that would contradict their narrow scenarios.
-- Craig (email@example.com), January 04, 1999.
It does not matter if you are at '2', '10', or in Never Never Land which is somewhere between 10 and TEOTW, as long as you are preparing to the max that you can. This is about survival. This is about uncertainty. It is about preparation for that survival and uncertainty. I don't care who gives me a good idea or makes me think of something I hadn't considered.
-- Rob Michaels (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 04, 1999.
"Actually, I would say that it has fallen into the unproven assumption that TEOTW is nigh. I'm seeing a ton of FACTS that don't support that assumption. But, posting something that shows anything but D&G is now an almost certain guarentee of flames."
What "ton of facts" are you seeing *worldwide* on this problem that makes you sleep at night better.My contention is you are focussing on your own town, followed by your state, followed by your region, then your country.
You are totally blinkered my friend.
I challenge you.
Give me the good news on the following countries.
Then tell me how the the USA, even if it get's it's act together, will survive economically with the rest of our trading partners in meltdown.
I'm expecting a reasoned, supported, well thought out essay Paul.
Bet you can't do it.
-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 04, 1999.
Yes John, The pressure is rising.
I think everyone needs to remember that there is as yet very little information available that would qualify as "facts". Demanding "facts" to defend an opinion contrary to your own in this situation often only causes heat, not light.
The hardest thing to accept is this: No one knows what will happen. The severity of the impact will be largely determined by things that haven't happened yet. (such as the extant and effectiveness of pending fixes). We're all offering our opinions, hopes, pre-concieved notions and nightmares, but let's not forget:
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before you have all the evidence. It biases the judgement." -Sherlock Holmes "A Study in Scarlet", ch. 3
And for those of you who think _this_ forum is wacky, check out the original:
Paul Milne as I live and breathe. Did comp.software.year-2000 getting too calm for you? I know that you sincerely hope to warn as many people as possible to "get out of the cities", but you may find your confrontational, abusive style less tolerated in this forum.
"The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." -Hubert H. Humphrey
-- Lewis (email@example.com), January 05, 1999.
I agree, it HAS gotten ugly around here. Like it or NOT, it is the TRUTH. I am not incognito, where is uncle dee dah and Gayla and those who 'contribute' realness and acceptance to the issue at hand? I see some regulars but not many. Hats off to Paul, Robert and those who are intelligent life. I realize we are entitled to our own thoughts, etc...but NOW is TIME to be Helpful one to another with sharing of Y2K info and not fighting with each other over needless bs. Most of the threads I've read since returning remind me of the dog gone airport line and is scarey tothink that those of us who are preparing cant even be civil to each other. SCAREY. ok, flame away. I dont care.
-- consumer (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 06, 1999.
consumer, I can't help but think that maybe this is just a side-effect of something that all of us, no matter what our positions on Y2K, are all too aware of: It won't be much longer until.... And its those "..." that are driving us crazier every day.
-- Jack (email@example.com), January 06, 1999.