WACO, Y2K and an administration of shame

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I watched the movie "WACO The Rules Of Engagement" last night.

The FBI, ATF, Reno, Clinton all come out with gallons of blood on their hands. The Texas Rangers and other men of honour did their best for justice, but were outflanked at every turn.

If you have a strong stomach you should see this film. If you don't have a strong stomach you should see this film.

It should be shown at all schools in the country, and should be aired on primetime TV.

You should have to prove that you've seen it before being allowed to vote.

Watch this movie and then think - how will Clinton and Co. handle Y2K?

See the movie and find out what our leaders are capable of doing to innocent women and children, never mind their husbands...

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-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), December 24, 1998



Include in the "must see" column the video,

Clintons Rise to Power. If anyone is interested, I will post the address.

Could it be true or are we bewitched. ww


I saw Waco: rules of engagement last week in Melbourne (not Fl.) It shows a litany of criminal acts by ATF and FBI. It also shows that the Branch Davidians weren't particulary dangerous, and that Davie Koresh was quite a cool guy. The most scandalous and forboding (?) bit was that the senate inquiry chose to whitewash government crimes rather than prosecute those responsible. Not really suprising, given US gov's track record. I can't help but wonder how the feds will react to y2kaos....glad I won't be there to witness it firsthand. Good luck to you all.

-- humptydumpty (no.6@thevillage.com), December 25, 1998.

Andy, thank you for bringing this subject up once more. I agree that this should be veiwed by all citizens. I want to also urge all citizens to get a copy of our constitution and Bill of rights. It is MOST IMPORTANT that these documents be the basis of all laws, all debates, opinions, and descisions.It would also be a good idea to send extra copies to your police department.

-- Arthur Rambo (buriedtreasure@webtv.net), December 25, 1998.

Err ahem - did they bother to mention that the plan was formulated under the Bush Administration and Reno's only contribution was to tell them to go ahead? Take a look at the timing boyz n girlz - you don't plan something like that your first week on the job. Not to mention the agents who planned it all agree it was a Bush appointee plan. Kind of like Kennedy and the Bay of Pigs - planned by a previous administration and the new guy gets all kinds of pressure to let it go ahead.

Ya know, I don't like Clinton one bit. But could you at least smear him with something that makes a little logical sense? And has some tiny sop to fair play about it? Ever since I got trapped into some crap in 7th grade I have refused to brand anyone as guilty without something more than innuendo. And what has this got to do with Y2K anyhow?

-- Paul Davis (davisp1953@yahoo.com), December 25, 1998.

Paul Davis; Why do you comment on a movie you have'nt seen? The last time I looked, the video only cost $20. If you honestly can't afford it, I'll send you a copy.

-- Arthur Rambo (buriedtreasure@webtv.net), December 25, 1998.

"And what has this got to do with Y2K anyhow?"

The same folks who let this go down in Waco are running the non-y2k show now. Half of the senators in the Waco enquiry are the same folks you saw recently grilling Starr on the impeachment process. Those same senators should be backing up Bennet now, but are caught up in the freak show in DC.

Puts things sublimely in perspective. BTW it also highlights the positive aspects of the enquiry, the cops that wern't corrupted, the pathologist, the infra red expert, the Texas Rangers, some of the lawyers.

The most frightening and appalling aspect of the documentary is the role the media played - can you say government lapdogs? - how 60 minutes cancelled their show when they found out the truth - the media come across as a bunch of inept peons.

Joe Bob says check it out.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), December 25, 1998.

Rambo - wasn't commenting on a movie - was commenting on the state of mind that accepts a movie as a fact - not someone's self serving representation of the facts. Read Korzysbki - the predecessor to Rand and Ringer and all the others who started from his ideas - the primary thing is to get as close to the physical facts as possible and make your abstractions from the facts - not from second or third hand data that has been corrupted by being filtered through someone elses mind. Can't get the real facts in the Waco case - but the timing is a matter of fact and of public record both in the case of Waco and the Bay of Pigs.

-- Paul Davis (davisp1953@yahoo.com), December 25, 1998.

Well Paul Davis, It seems as if you are only interested in hearing or seeing information that fits your preconceived truth. The spin doctors have done their job well. You don't even want to know.-------------------

-- Arthur Rambo (buriedetc.@web.net), December 25, 1998.

Mr. Paul Davis,

It is evident from your posts that you haven't even seen the *documentary*. Not movie, asswipe. Movies are hollywood, this is real life and *death*.

Go and see it - rent it out.

You do yourself a disservice, sir.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), December 26, 1998.

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