Everyone In This Forum-Thank You! Spiritual Advice?

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I appreciate the wealth of knowledge from everyone in this forum who have helped me sort through the complex nature of the Y2k crisis. Everyone has so much to offer.

I have question related to spiritual preparedness. Any suggestions? My professional aspirations have begun to slide as my thoughts are focused so much on Y2k. I guess I should schedule more time for meditation, and stretching. I know this helps to clear the mind. I would appreciate other suggestions. Food storage preparations have been less then adequate, but I make a screenwriters salary which could be over a million dollars per year, so far I havn't reached that bracket. I don't care about money. If I did, I wouldn't be a starving artist. In the meantime though, I live below $10,000 a year, which puts limits on food storage preparations. I am getting ready to become a community site leader at the address listed below. Anyone interested should definitely check into this.

On January 22, there will be a global satellite downlink for all site leaders worldwide to network with community leaders in their region. Community preparations are so vitally important, especially for the young, the elderly, and the sick who will be woefully unprepared. This site is the mechanism for creating a network of community support to begin on the World Wide Web. Thanks again everyone for all the information, and suggestions.




-- M.C. Davey (Apus1Son@aol.com), December 03, 1998


MC, you have the best idea for preparing spiritually -- meditation. Prayer. Practicing the Presence of God, and talking to Him. Stretching, exercising, strength-training, socking away water & canned soups: these activities keep fear at bay. Fear paralyzes our spiritual perceptions.

Anything written by Paramahansa Yogananda is immensely beneficial spiritually. He's written a lot; all incomparable! Whispers From Eternity is awesome, very inspiring, calming, while also motivating for right action. For the intellectually hungry, God Talks With Arjuna: The Bhagavad Gita, Royal Science of God-Realization, is commanding, satisfying, mind-blowing brain feast. Enjoy!

Paramahansa Yogananda's books are published by Self-Realization Fellowship and can be bought and ordered by your local bookstore, and of course at amazon.com.

xxxxxxx x

-- Leska (allaha@earthlink.net), December 03, 1998.


Im also reviewing the key essences of my metaphysical training for the past 11 years. Its becoming increasingly clear that each one of us who knows how, will have to be impeccable in walking our talk during Y2K, and way beyond what ever we once thought we could do. I suspect that nothing less than full Christ Consciousness will be required of us. *Sigh*

A few books Im reviewing:

The Sermon On The Mount -- The Key To Success In Life by Emmet Fox The Ten Commandments -- The Master Key To Life by Emmet Fox Power Through Constructive Thinking by Emmet Fox Find And Use Your Inner Power by Emmet Fox

A couple videotapes I find useful:

Why People Dont Heal -- And How They Can -- Dr. Carolyn Myss Three Levels Of Power -- And How To Use Them -- Dr. Carolyn Myss

Those are just this weeks projects, in addition to Y2K job hunting, posting on the forum and fighting off the flu.

As someone posting on this forum e-mailed me, Living with integrity, doing the right thing -- and if I may say so the good and loving thing -- with wisdom -- is more important than simply drawing another breath. Even if it means ones' death. Couldnt agree more!

Not even remotly afraid of death because Ive investigated, in-depth, what happens. Living, is by far the greater challenge, coupled with living through Y2K with dignity.

Diane, time, once again, to meditate and walk in a garden

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), December 03, 1998.


My first advice to you would be to get a real job and start pulling your weight.

-- Good Advice (Iwork@makingmoney.com), December 03, 1998.


For spiritual advice, one of the best books to read is the Bible. No one can give better spiritual advice and guidance than the One who created us.

-- Louise (~~~~~@~~~~.~~~), December 03, 1998.

Good Advice: my advice to you is to mind your own business. it's because of people like MC that there are any arts in the world at all. maybe that's not important to you, but it is to the rest of us. Take your advice and stick it up your ass.

-- shoveitgoodadvice (arrogant@bitchboy.com), December 03, 1998.

How interesting it is to think we need to spiritually prepare. As if we need to gather something from outside of ourselves.

Perhaps we all are already enlightened and just need to observe what we see? I don't know. But, isn't that true of all of us - we don't know.

-- Sharon Schultz (shalom100@aol.com), December 03, 1998.

Go to babel2000.com and click on "Isaiah addresses y2k". Faith in God is the believers greatest Resource. We grow in our faith through reading and prayer and meeting with other believers. This requires discipline and committment that must fight distraction, busyness, and a failure to keep it a priority. God bless. Bob

-- BBrown (peace2u@bellatlantic.net), December 03, 1998.

The Bible is the best resource for spiritual preparation. See what our Creator has to say about life, death, fear, and preparation.


-- Jeremy (privacy@please.com), December 03, 1998.

We are all One, everything happens at once. Time and individuality are but an illusion.

Heaven and Hell is a metaphor: we are all part Heaven and part Hell, just differing amounts.

We enter this life as purely physical entities. We leave as purely spiritual ones. Along the way, we encounter God. And Heaven. And Hell.

God is love and Love is god.

How's that?

-- a (a@a.a), December 03, 1998.


-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), December 03, 1998.

Practice tuning in to your conscience/intuition. This is the Inner Voice of God, and will guide you better than any book.

-- David Hammer (davidone@worldnet.att.net), December 03, 1998.



-- Only_3_guesses (GUESS@WHO.COM), December 03, 1998.

BOLD FONT-EUR (aka 3-Guess)

Mrs. Deedah fixed my wagon long ago, (And fixed it well, I might add, it tingled, me enjoy)

Here is a tune that she is very sick of hearing:


As for my $.02

You will know the way for you, MC, when you see it before you.

(Do I sound like Di yet?)

PS, I shall never guess, it is a recipe for a$$holiness.

-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), December 04, 1998.

Why do people have to ask questions that have already been answered by themselves? Do we have STUPID written across our foreheads? Well sh*t, you have a $10,000 a year income. I think you are bullshitting us. If that is true, I suggest you resign as a community leader and get yourself a second job flipping hamburgers to get yourself prepared. Take care of family and yourself first then community second. You don't care about money? How do you expect to survive without money? Those communities you are talking about need money to buy supplies, etc. THEY JUST DON'T GET IT!

-- Not Taken In (Nottakenin@wise.com), December 04, 1998.

I suppose had I said "NOW KIDS FIGHT NICE" and found that rediculous emoticon, you would have found that we both sing that song well.

no guesses needed just read` cr

-- Chuck a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), December 04, 1998.

Well Chuck, I don't get what you just said, please esplain...ooops, slurring my words, please explain.

-- W.C. Fields (W.C,.Fields@oh yes.com), December 04, 1998.

Hokay, less hear it Lucy...

-- Ricky (lotsa@splainingtodo.com), December 04, 1998.

"There is a God, and you are not Him!"

If you would like to have your questions answered about the meaning of life, go to


Or for spiritual guidance go to


-- proclaimer (proclaiming@His.love), December 04, 1998.

Diane, thanks for all the great book suggestions. I'll archive them, and search the libary. Emmet Fox, and Carolyn Myss definitely piqued my interest. I've read some of your posts, Diane and very impressed with your dedication in providing excellent sources of information. I forwarded the Y2k article by the San Francisco Chronicle to numerous colleagues who like most people need awakening. One can only go so far with the ninety-eight percent of people who don't get it. The other two-percent are persons like Bennett and Horn sounding the alarms while the rest of Congress are in sleeping mode. This was a sensible statistic mentioned by someone at the Y2kWeatherman site.

The Hopi are more afraid of living with a terrible disease, or even more serious is the thought of Hopi indivuals stricken by paralysis, or losing a limb. Under those conditions, they feel powerless, and at the mercy of the tribe, having to be cared for, and not able to contribute directly to the Hopi community. They believe that death is merely a passage into the next world. Check out the audio link on Art Bell.com. Art interviewed the Hopi Elders who have very powerful prophesies. The Hopi elders would normally never consider this interview, which is radical to them. They felt it prudent to warn their fellow man of serious prophesies, and needed to reach out to humanity. Another book worth checking out for the very same reason it was written is callled. " Hotevilla, Hopi Shrine of The Covenant, Microcosm Of The World." -Dan Evehema and Thomas E. Mails. Keep up the great work."

As for the flu, I hope you are feeling better. It's very powerful this season. I began echinacea maintenence over the summer, and still got a mild case. Then last week the key grip, and gaffer, both got sick on a movie that resumed last week. Well, I felt complacent, bad mistake. The bug attacked me even worse the second time.

That was a powerful statement by your anonymous poster. "Living with integrity, and wisdom to be more important then death." Here's a statement by the great Martin Luther King. " If a man has nothing to die for, he hasn't any reason for living."



-- M.C. Davey (Apus1son@aol.com), December 05, 1998.


M. C., when you get belittled and critized you know you are doing a good job. This has been my experience. Keep up the good work.

-- fly . (.@...), December 05, 1998.

I think people ask these sorts of questions because they are seeking community,...transcendance...the joining of minds....Why people ask these questions is a moot point. People do. I am an artist and a musician. I'm hoping to be around after the disorder, because I will have a lot to say, and a lot to pass on for recording....How to prepare for us with no money????...First things first.

Are you in a temperate climate? Do you need heat to live?

You must store water unless you live on land with a well.


Medicines for chronic sickness...

Beyond that it's up to you. We have purchased a little at a time...it is possible for those of us starving artistic types to get a buffer for ourselves....5 bucks here,...5 bucks there...

The rest of you who have nothing better to do than condemn.....obviously you have not finished your preparations.

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), December 05, 1998.

Not Taken:

It would be nice in a world where people had the guts to hold back their judgements. I see this so much, it's sickening. The way a person talks, or walks. Well, that person's in a wheel chair he must be STUPID. This person is gay or lesbian, let's burn him in hell, but before hand, let's take out full page advertisments in the New York Times, The L.A. Times, and all the mainstream papers, and before we do it, Let's call them sinners. To get our laughs, lets poke fun at the old, the STUPID, the handicapped, even the our animal friends and call it. "There's Something About Mary."

A word about flipping burgers, I'm not here to judge Not Taken for Not having set foot in the inner cities. Not Taken may infact drive his sports futility vehicle slashing through freeways crisscrossing the inner cities, back to his comfortable suburban lifestyle.

For some some though flipping burgers is a way of life sustenence, a few of those burger jobs exist, NOT TAKEN by those living at or below $10,000 year. Those who have not the oppportunity of living a comfortable suburban lifestyle. There are sprinkles of these substandard jobs available.

Not for long. American Multinationals are moving overseas at alarming rates in the name of NAFTA. The average Mexican worker earns $6.50/day for the 95 corporations sprouting all over Sonora Mexico.

Back to flipping burgers, McDonald's exploits workers the same way, only it's Queens, Brooklyn, Watt's, Compton, or any other inner city. McDonald's wouldn't dare pay it's workers any more then $5.25hr, but not less then our Hispanic brothers in Sonora who earn about .85/hr. Wouldn't McDonald's just love this in the USA. Yet the average minimum wage has gone up $2.00hr since 1978. Hardly at a level under current standards of living. Flipping burgers under hellish conditions imaginable, keeps them a stone's throw from living under the Rosencrans Bridge under the wrath of nightly gunfire, jet noise, and the danger of gang warfare. Welfare just isn't enough these days. But not to worry our Rupublican leaders did away with that. They forgot to think about the millions of new jobs needed to support all of those cut from benefit programs. Hey republicans, what about downsizing in America? Thousands of workers cut in the name of NAFTA, free trade for all. Except for those wondering where their next meal comes. Of course our elected leaders fail to mention corporate welfare in excess of 170 billion dollars a year. That's a real chunk of change that could do wonders for inner city infrastructure, business, employment, and community empowerment.



-- M.C. Davey (Apus1son@aol.com), December 05, 1998.



(I gotta remember to use emoticons when kidding around, apparently Hee Hee is not clue enough for those lurkers w/o a sense of humor, or at least the ones who were beaten excessively as children)

-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), December 05, 1998.


-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), December 05, 1998.

I have to. Deedah said, "Here we go", and I have to....

Proclaimer said: There is a god and HE is not you.

My questions are: who said so? And how do you know it is a Him...except for a text based on a culturally-biased system? I don't think M.C. asked anything about the judeo-christian deity....Caramba..some peoples' kids never learn. Breast your bible, sir.(which means, for the un-poker/bridge-minded, keep your biased-bible thoughts to yourself. He said "spiritual" not christian.

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), December 05, 1998.

And a quote:

"Be quiet
and sit down.
You are drunk
and this is the edge of the roof.
-- Rumi

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), December 05, 1998.


Thank you for your consideration, and others on another thread, and the illness recommendations. Whenever I come down with something, I have to pause and ask How am I or how is something in my life out of balance? I view illness as an opportunity to look at what is not working. Pain is another red flag to pay attention and see the symbolism inherent within it. Im much better today, and know what I need to pay more attention to.

As pertains to the Hopi, the People Of Peace, I have spent some time on the reservation. Once spent four hours with a 90-year-old Hopi medicine woman and crystal healer. We received permission for our group to make a pilgrimage to their holiest of holy places, the Sipapu. It is a special place that, at least once in their lifetimes, they are expected to journey to in ceremony. Quite a sacred place. We also received permission from the Navaho, since its was technically on their land. A decided, once-in-a-lifetime, Indiana Joan adventure!

And, I like the Hopi, KNOW that death is merely a passage into the next world. The challenge is to live well and grow your soul through living in this world.


It makes no difference how deeply seated may be the trouble, how hopeless the outlook, how muddled the tangle, how great the mistake. A sufficient realization of love will dissolve it all. -- Emmet Fox

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), December 05, 1998.

The "realization" of love means that it becomes common practice in daily preparations.

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), December 06, 1998.

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