We keep wondering when, and hoping that, the "sheeple" will "get it". However, if/when the sheeple "get it" to the degree people in this forum have, that will be the last day of freedom in this country's history. The reason is simple: it is impossible for more than 10% of the US population to prepare to the degree that we have. If the sheeple are sufficiently motivated to prepare, but find the "shelves bare", so to speak, there will be an outcry for Federal intervention the like of which this country has never seen. It will be the final step in the imperial conversion of the US to a complete police state. So, do we hope the "sheeple" will "get it" ? Or not ?

-RC

-- R. W. Cat (runway_cat@hotmail.com), November 30, 1998

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You're right.

-- Leo (leo_champion@hotmail.com), November 30, 1998.

I agree with you. I am selfish enough and honest enogh to admit that I do not want all the sheeple to get it. I am concerned about my family. If everyone starts preparing to the extent that we are, there will be ferderal intervention. Tonight on Atlanta News, there was a small segment about Y2K. It was a report about a woman that was storing food, she had a years worth stored along with other necessities. This was just normal everyday Jane. Tonight I am sure there are several other Janes out there stocking their pantries.

One other thought and I may be wrong. There are millions of people starving in the world. These people relay on rice and grains from other counties to survive. There is only so much food in the world. As we are storing, are we not taking away from someone else already?

When the DGIs finally do get it and start to store, someone will be left out in the cold. I do not want it to be me or mine.

-- Linda A. (adahi@muhlon.com), November 30, 1998.

****There are millions of people starving in the world. These people relay on rice and grains from other counties to survive. There is only so much food in the world. ****

Of course you are correct. 40k people die of starvation every day. The food distribution problem exists without Y2K...what will happen when all those fabulous intercontinental transfers of food stuffs fo awry? In the US we have no clue about hunger.....even though there are people hungry here...it interrupts my sleep, as much as my own "potential hunger" does. This is one of the reasons why Y2K will be devasting...hungry people who rely on assistance from "more advanced nations" will starve first....we will starve later...

Everyone read "The Machine Stops" by Forrester and "Island" by Aldous Huxley

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 30, 1998.

Donna, I printed out The Machine Stops last week and read it out loud to my family while driving up to Quebec. At the begining I got a few rolling eyes, but soon they were all listening intently. I had emphasized that it was written in 1909, before any "machines" like telephones and computer screens were known, even cars. That the author 's vocabulary was very limited in describing his machines, since the techno jargon didn't exist then. My kids were flabergasted, and they picked up on the Y2K parallel straight away. We discussed the short story and Y2K for at least an hour afterwards. My husband, who was driving, remained somber... it hit his "GI nerve". Amazing story. A must read for everyone.

I didn't bookmark the URL and forget what thread it was on, can you or someone repost it?

-- Chris (catsy@pond.com), November 30, 1998.

You bet.....great short story for any technological age....

here is the link: http://www.idbsu.edu/comm/cm161/download/machine.htm

or the hyperlink: The Machine Stops

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 30, 1998.

You can find that story, The Machine Stops, somewhere in Kurt Saxons web site at-----http://www.kurtsaxon.com/---. This is a really radical site but it has some interesting stories.

-- Roberta Blackard (roblackard@juno.com), November 30, 1998.

punt 250 million people?

hello?

you'll take a short extension of freedom over 250 million dead people?

you want to live in a country decorated with 250 million dead people? people unlucky enough not to have internet access? admit it, you wouldn't know about this if it weren't for the web. in this scenario, the meek are definitely NOT inheriting the earth...the geek are.

-- so punt? (4th@10.com), December 01, 1998.

Donna,

The Machine Stops ... Wonderful Story .... How timely it is, or is that time machinely?

Arent our machines just so much Y2K dumb heavy metal after all, without thinking humans behind them? Are we thinking again yet?

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), December 01, 1998.