Enemy Of Tthe State -- Deconstructing Public Enemy Or You Spy, We Spy?

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Enemy Of Tthe State -- Deconstructing Public Enemy Or You Spy, We Spy?

To continue with the theme of the "Big Brother..." thread. -- Diane

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http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/16507.html 26.Nov.98.PST Eye Spy

Deconstructing Public Enemy 3:00 a.m. They're watching from above, eyeing your bank account, and listening to your conversations. Here's the truth behind the paranoia in Enemy of the State. By Judy DeMocker, jdemock@hotmail.com

3:00 a.m. 26.Nov.98.PST The scariest implication in conspiracy thriller Enemy of the State is that technology isn't what's holding the US government back from spying on its citizens. Laws are.

Pretty much every whiz-bang spying technology depicted in the movie [http://www.movies.com/eos/], which opened in US theaters on 20 November, is possible today -- sophisticated satellite surveillance systems, accessibility of bank records, phone taps without warrants. And the movie's premise that national security can take precedence over the civil rights of law-abiding citizens, has hit a chord with viewers and filmmakers alike.

"I want the audience when they leave the theater to be looking over their shoulders thinking, can this really happen? And I want them to believe that it can happen," said director Tony Scott in a prerecorded interview. [http://www.movies.com/eos/site/index.html]

The scenario of an innocent man being digitally hounded through tunnel and building, traced to pay phones and 7-Eleven surveillance systems, and exposed by a digital trail of personal information, is overblown. Most store cameras are not hooked up to outside systems, and databases are not so rapidly accessible that a government agent could pull up a suspect's past addresses, personal history, bank, and telephone records in the blink of an eye.

[Maybe just two blinks]

"Overall, I think the movie overestimates how well databases are linked together, and the possibility of real-time record retrieval," said Marc Rotenberg, executive director at the Electronic Privacy Information Center [http://www.epic.org/]. "But someday, it will be possible to conduct that type of constant surveillance of a target."

The law protects citizens from being spied on in their homes. The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution establishes search and seizure limits. But as the world increasingly uses telecommunications and Internet technologies, the digital line between public and private has blurred.

"The Fourth Amendment [http://caselaw.findlaw.com/data/Constitution/amendment04/] says we have a right to be free in our homes and our papers, but in terms of informational privacy, there's not explicit constitutional protection," said Cassidy Seghal, staff counsel on information issues for the American Civil Liberties Union [http://www.aclu.org/]. "Digital telephony creates the possibility for increased portals, so government can acquire the data much faster. Certainly real-time transmissions and interceptions are possible."

[So what! I hope they are bored! They have no idea whose watching them.]

Legal protection from surveillance is guaranteed under Title 3 laws, passed in 1968. But those laws haven't kept up with technological advances. For instance, government agencies can track people using low-level transmitters via satellite, as seen in the movie, and there are no laws governing it.

And the laws around wiretapping have been weakened of late. "The laws are awful right now," said Lisa Dean, vice president for technology policy at the Free Congress Research and Education Foundation [http://www.freecongress.org/], in Washington. "Congress just passed a roving wiretap proposition that allows them to tap anyone in the vicinity of the person they've targeted."

With telephone companies converting their systems from analog to digital, wiretapping has gotten faster and easier. Law enforcement agents no longer need to physically tap phone lines, and if they bypass the warrant process in the interests of national security, they can be listening in minutes, said the ACLU's Seghal.

[Yep. Just go to the CIAs public access web-site http://www.odci.gov/cia/employment/ciaeindex.htm and see how long it takes them send back a beep-beep-beep trace on your phone number. Hint: took em under four minutes! They also messed with my puter too, while loading a plug-in. Phoned the CIA in Virginia to complain!]

The know-it-all, ex-National Security Agency man in the movie, Brill, made a number of assertions that cross the line between reality and conspiracy theory.

"There are 14 acres of mainframes under Fort Meade [http://www.mdw.army.mil/meade.htm] automatically taping and analyzing telephone conversations," said Brill, played by Gene Hackman.

"The NSA [http://www.nsa.gov:8080/] may have acres of computers, but they're crunching numbers, not taping phone calls. The movie's marrying two facts together to make a false conclusion," said James Bamford, author of The Puzzle Palace, the authoritative history and profile of the National Security Agency.

It's unlikely the NSA is taping phone calls within the country, Bamford said. The agency used to do some illegal taping in the '70s, but they've cleaned up their act since then, he said.

"Technically, the government does have the capability to record and analyze the large percentage of the world's telecommunications. That's the NSA's main function," said James Dempsey, senior staff counsel for the Center for Democracy and Technology [http://www.cdt.org/], in Washington.

Within the United States, however, it is illegal for the government to do blanket recording of domestic conversations, and so they focus most of their eavesdropping efforts overseas, Dempsey said.

Fort Meade is the hub of the Echelon satellite surveillance system, and its goal is to intercept fax, email, and voice communications, said Dean, of the Free Congress Foundation. "It probably is illegal, but they can do it," she said.

"The NSA can read the time off your watch," Brill claimed in the film.

The National Reconnaissance Office, which maintains the satellite network for the NSA, declined to comment on the resolution capabilities of its satellite surveillance. And spokesman Art Haubold pointed out that, legally, his organization is not allowed to turn its surveillance systems on the United States.

But it's likely that military's current satellite surveillance can track people and cars from place to place, as shown in the film, and even to give a digital download that would run like a 10-frame-per-second video, according to Tom Herring, a geophysics professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. The satellites he uses for research can resolve images up to 1 meter, based on technology that's 10 to 15 years old.

"My best guess is that the military could do a factor of 10 better than that," Herring said. "With an imaging capability of 10 cm, detecting a person would be possible, and it's plausible that you could see facial characteristics." Probably not a watch face, though.

And, in case you were wondering, there are no spy satellites attached to the Hubble Space telescope.

[See also earlier thread on CIA & Hiring Practices -- Diane]

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 27, 1998



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http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/15864.html Spying on the Spies by Niall McKay, niall@wired.com

12:55 p.m. 27.Oct.98.PST A Washington DC civil liberties organization will send a detailed report on the National Security Agency's [http://www.nsa.gov:8080/] top-secret spying network to members of Congress later this week.

The report, Echelon: America's Spy in the Sky [http:// www.freecongress.org/ctp/echelon.html], details the known history and workings of the agency's global electronic surveillance system. The system is reportedly able to intercept, record, and translate any electronic communication -- such as telephone, data, cellular, fax, email, telex -- sent throughout the world.

"There is a real and present threat to the security of the US from its enemies," said Patrick Poole, author of the report and deputy director of the Free Congress Foundation [http://www.freecongress.org/]. "But there needs to be some democratic and constitutional oversight of how and against who the [Echelon] system is being used."

The Free Congress Foundation is hoping that Congress will scrutinize Echelon as carefully as the European Parliament [http:// www.europarl.eu.int/dg3/sdp/pointses/en/p980914s.htm#6] has. The parliament commissioned several reports on Echelon earlier this year and the issue has been hotly debated ever since.

The NSA neither confirms nor denies Echelon's existence, but investigative journalists and civil liberties activists have turned up a number of details in recent years.

Glyn Ford, a British member of the European Parliament, said he sees the necessity of Echelon but, like Poole, he worries about the NSA's apparent lack of accountability.

"If we are going to leave the electronic key under the doormat, then we want an assurance that the people who pick up that key are not going to steal the family silver," said Ford.

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 27, 1998.

Exposing the Global Surveillance System

-- Dunno (anon@priv.org), November 27, 1998.


http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/15509.html FBI's Wish is Granted By Niall McKay, niall@wired.com

4:00 a.m. 9.Oct.98.PDT US lawmakers inserted a provision expanding the FBI's [http:// www.fbi.gov/] capacity to eavesdrop on American citizens into an intelligence budget bill, provoking sharp criticism from civil libertarians and a conservative member of congress.

The so-called roving wiretap provision, an item on the FBI's controversial wish list [http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/ story/15350.html], was added to the Intelligence Authorization Act, (HR3694) [http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c105:5:./temp/ ~c105lrIZqO:e0:] late Wednesday, said Representative Bob Barr (R- Georgia).

"Under this new law, the federal government will have the ability to eavesdrop on each and every one of us," said Barr [http:// www.house.gov/barr/p_doj.html], a former federal prosecutor and ex-CIA analyst who is running for a third term.

The provision, which allows law enforcement agencies to tap telephones used by or near targeted individuals rather than requiring authorization to tap specific phones, was rejected by Congress as part of the 1996 Anti-Terrorism bill.

It was introduced by a joint committee charged with reconciling the House and Senate versions of the intelligence budget.

"This is a sneaky attack on the privacy rights of Americans," Greg Nojeim, ACLU [phttp://www.aclu.org/] Legislative Counsel.

Patrick Poole, deputy director of the Free Congress Foundation [http:/ /www.freecongress.org/], called it a case of bill stuffing. Every year in the last few days of congress the FBI tries to sneak previously rejected legislation into must-pass legislation, including budgets, Poole said.

"There is a flaw in the process that law makers take advantage of to pass controversial laws that do not stand up to open debate," said Poole. "This is how they managed to make the National Identity Cards Law."

Related Links:

U.S Department of Justice -- http://www.usdoj.gov/ Society of Former Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation -- http://www.socxfbi.org/

Note the comment "This is how they managed to make the National Identity Cards Law."

Anyone have a lead on that? Thought it was still under debate. -- Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 27, 1998.

It's part of the 'Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act' of 1996.

Your Papers Please

-- Dunno (anon@priv.org), November 27, 1998.

Diane: Dunno is right. Here is another reference (from 3rd quarter 1997):

World of Money

-- Rob Michaels (sonofdust@net.com), November 27, 1998.

Dunno, Thanks.

Your Papers Please... "In 1996, Congress passed the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act... One section of that law requires all states to make their driver's licenses comply with strict guidelines of the act. As of Oct. 1, 2000 -- a month before the next presidential election -- the federal government mandates that Social Security numbers be included as the license number. Eventually, the act also requires the cards to include digitized biometric information such as fingerprints, retina scans and DNA prints."

The article's end statement:

"More to the point: Tell them to take their national identity card and stick it where the sun don't shine."

Beginning to look like Y2K can't come soon enough. *Sigh* Hey, Washington, you keep this stuff up and you just might make an activist out of me yet! (You really don't want that, trust me, I come with a loaded automatic slingshot).


-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 27, 1998.

"I come with a loaded automatic slingshot). "

Diane: Just a word of advice... Don't tell them about the spiked fruitcake!

-- Rob Michaels (sonofdust@net.com), November 27, 1998.

Yep. Rob we gotta keep that secret. Not to worry, clearly they can't read. Sheesh.

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 27, 1998.

Dey aint illiterate, dey jes caint respond to sumpin deys red, if it's in the king's english, that is. these are, after all high school graduates. Write it in ebonics and they can get it everytime.

or maybe Esperanto, always assuming we're talking about the liberal croud

-- nope (naa@this.time), November 27, 1998.

Thanks also Rob for your link. I re-typed the World Of Money hard copy for easier e-mailing. Also searched for additional info links for those who wish to further inform themselves on this issue. -- Diane

http://www.usgoldcoins.com/low/newsletters/3rdquarter97/ Andrew Gauses THE WORLD OF MONEY Third Quarter 1997, Volume 5 Issue 3

New National ID Card Will Finger Debtors & Deadbeats

In September of 1996, President Clinton signed into law the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996. Buried at page 650 of the new national Defense Bill. also known as Public Law 104-208, Part B, Title IV, the American Public was given a national ID card. With no fanfare, no publicity and no scrutiny, the bill easily avoided the watchful eyes of even its most vocal opponents.

In brief, the new legislation mandates that after October 1, 2000, Federal agencies may only accept as proof of identity drivers licenses that conform to standards developed by the Secretary of the Treasury.

Promoted as a tool for states to combat employment of illegal aliens, DMVs around the country are now asked to include digital fingerprints on the new Federally-designed license. Persons who desire employment by a business located within participating states will be asked to swipe their drivers license/ID card through a reader at the prospective employers office. The identification data would then be transferred to the Social Security Administration to either approve or disapprove the applicant for employment.

Per the bill, for the first time in history our government will have the ability to grant approval before a private company enters into private employment contracts with private citizens.

It is understood that other agencies (the IRS, FBI, local police, and departments of child welfare) will also tap the system to locate individuals with outstanding warrants, fines, and past-due accounts.

See Also...

http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page2/fp-cong-record-excerpt- hr2202.html Congressional Record for 104th Congress, 1996.


See Also...

CITIZENS for Limited Taxation & Government http://www.cltg.org/idcard.html

Public Law 104-208 104th Congress

Review... [[Page 110 STAT. 3001]] SEC. 656. <> [[Page 110 STAT. 3009-717]] [[Page 110 STAT. 3009-718]] [[Page 110 STAT. 3009-719]] SEC. 657. <> DEVELOPMENT OF PROTOTYPE OF COUNTERFEIT-RESISTANT SOCIAL SECURITY CARD. [[Page 110 STAT. 3009-720]]

See Also...

Contract ON America Public Law 104-193 http://www.mcwebs.com/repeal/publaw1.htm

This is from the Contract ON America. If you work, this concerns you. If you have a bank account, this concerns you. If you are an employer, this concerns you. If you are an employee or plan to be, this concerns you. If you are divorced or plan to be, God help you. If you now or in the future will owe child support, just shoot yourself now. If you are an American, get a rope and find John Kasich (the author of the bill). If you have ever known the government to screw up, count on it this time and God help us all. This is truly the price for Socialism. Marxists would be proud. Stalin would be ecstatic. Next time you have a chance to vote for a Congressman or United States Senator, remember what you read below.

All parts of the following bill have been edited. The entire text is approximately 350 pages. I have cut it to around 20 pages of the worst anhialation of our Constitution. If you want to read the whole thing, go to the Thomas server [http://thomas.loc.gov/] on the Web and look for Public Law 104-193, also known as the Welfare Reform Act of 1996. Oh yeah, the best was saved for last. That's the Republican Congressional MANDATE TO CHANGE ALL STATE CONSTITUTIONS!!! Most of you will want to start at Section 313, but I'd really hate to see you miss anything that could be in store for you, so read the whole thing.

Before I forget, I want to thank the Congressional Research Service in Washington D.C. for their condescending reply to myself and all of you. It read:

"We have enclosed a packet of materials which explain or provide a guide to the law requested, rather than a copy of the law, as it has been our experience that what is usually most useful and needed by most constituents is interpretation and explanation of the law rather than the often lengthy and confusing legal language of the law itself".

This was based on my request through Newt Gingrich's office for the copy of the Welfare Reform and Immigration Reform Acts. None of the following information was even mentioned in the information they sent, except for one small sentence about the "New Hire" program. Gee, why would I want to waste my time on such silliness as what the actual "lengthy and confusing legal language of the law itself" had to say. How stupid of me! Gosh, don't confuse me with the facts.

Some of those voting yes from Georgia and those well known to all were: Armey, Barr, Bishop, Bono, Chenoweth, Collins, Deal, Dornan, Gingrich (he actually voted), Kasich, Linder, Norwood, Stockman, Traficant, Coverdell, D'Amato, Gramm, Helms, Mack, Nunn and other people too stupid and lazy to be in Congress, plus those with illiteracy problems.


Information compiled by: Cyndee Parker Coalition to Repeal the Fingerprints Law Atlanta, GA 404-250-8105 www.mcwebs.com/repeal/

See Also...

THOMAS Legislative Information On The Internet http://thomas.loc.gov/ http://thomas.loc.gov/home/thomas2.html

Bill Summary & Status http://thomas.loc.gov/bss/bdquery.html#laws

Public Law 104-208

208. H.R.3610: A bill making appropriations for the Department of Defense for the fiscal year ending September 30, 1997, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Rep Young, C. .- LATEST ACTION: 09/30/96 Enrolled bill not printed; See Conference Report (H. Rept. 104-863) for text of legislation as enacted into law. --Public Law 104-208 (became law 09/ 30/96).

H.R.3610 (Major Legislation) Public Law: 104-208 (09/30/96) http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d104:HR03610:|TOM:/bss/ d104query.html|

[DOCID: f:publ208.104] [[Page 110 STAT. 3001]] *Public Law 104-208 104th Congress http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/useftp.cgi?IPaddress= wais.access.gpo.gov&filename=publ208.104&directory=/diskc/wais/data/ 104_cong_public_laws

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 27, 1998.

Response to Enemy Of Tthe State -- Deconstructing Public Enemy Or You Spy, We Spy?

Just heard on the radio that the CIA is looking for a few good "spys". (KYW Philadelphia.)

Openly recruiting J.Q.P. over the radio to spy on others? Apparently the requirements aren't too high. I wonder who they will be spying on. :-<

-- Floyd Baker (fbaker@wzrd.com), November 27, 1998.

One other thing to remember - new, draconian, means-tested personal bankruptcy laws are waiting to be voted on by congress in the spring of '99. If you plan on filing for bankruptcy chapter 7 better be quick or you'll be caught in the net that is being fastidiously cast at this very moment.

"They" want to close the door on the deluge of bankruptcies that "they" are expecting as the stock market crashes and y2k bites.

This ties in nicely with the new national id card scheduled for October of 2000.

And the new cashless society.

What else I wonder do "they" have up their sleeves?

Whatever happened to the constitution???

-- Andy (andy_rowland@msn.com), November 27, 1998.

People vote Replublicratic. We will never get anywhere as long as they keep doing it.

Sure would be nice if the Libertarians could work with the Reform Party.

BOOM, instant clout.

-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), November 28, 1998.


Lemmie see, maybe we can all become Reformed Libertarians voting both Replublicratic and Demopublican. Then again, maybe just keep it simple and vote for We The People, not Big Brother.

Remember Y2K? BOOM, instant clout. *Sigh*

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 28, 1998.


<< ...And, in case you were wondering, there are no spy satellites attached to the Hubble Space telescope. >>

This is literally true, but not practically true. The Hubble is based on old technology (one generation back) of a downgraded military spy satellite. That's why NASA was able to get its technology released. It also caused many problems in certification for NASA (NASA's space cert's are more strict that NSA's - so the same design had to be "re-engineered" several ways, and in manufactoring things in the plant. Clearances had to be duplicated, areas restricted, etc. when NASA instead of NSA came to inspect.

So the spy satellites are actually better than the Hubble, and not encumbered with all the research attachments needed for the Hubble.

By the way, when one of the shuttles had tile damage, the Hubble was 'refocused" down towards the shuttle (to the lower orbit) and took adequate inspection-level pictures of the 4" tiles just fine.

-- Robert A. Cook, P.E. (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), November 29, 1998.

Maybe the Hubble needs to be refocused on earth instead of space. Ah, the games certain groups play.

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 29, 1998.

Diane: do you read The Progressive magazine? It has an agenda, decidedly liberal, but it hasn't been given to sensationalizing. Didn't need to. Back in the early 1980s, it devoted an entire issue to computerized phone snooping, revealing (for the first time anywhere, I think) that both Britain and (then-West) Germany had linked key telephone exchanges to computers running word-senstive programs. The computers could key into any conversation in which it detected certain trigger words, such as nuclear or plutonium or ??? and the computers were capable of monitoring thousands of conversations simultaneously. The US planned to install those same computers in the Washington DC exchanges. For what it's worth, Tom Clancy's Executive Orders also describes computers that keep track of every telephone call made in the DC area, and given his penchant for using facts, I wouldn't doubt it.-------So, the means and the motive have existed for at least 15 years. Can anyone really doubt that the capability and the breadth have done anything but expand? Just something to think about while you're making your next phone call.

-- JDClark (yankeejdc@aol.com), November 29, 1998.


"Just something to think about while you're making your next phone call."

I do think about it. I think they'll get incredibly bored after awhile. And if one lets fear dictate ones actions, they've won.


-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 30, 1998.

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