I'm not a "new-ager". I'm a realist. However, for your comic relief from y2k, here is something strange. I read a book in the mid-1980's wish I could remember the title/author (any of you CA new-agers out there remember this ?), subject was a guy being "progressed" to give info on the future of the earth. Anyway, these "progression" sessions were in the early 1980's before Mr. Klinton was a national figure (of fun).

This author saw himself, in mid-year 2000, sitting in a desert ranch/compound setting, with a few other survivalist types. After a few more sessions, the picture they pieced together (already wrong by one year, but still interesting):

Fall 1997: things 'normal' but people nervous, weather weird

January 1998: mentally "saw" State of Union address on TV. Surprised that the President seemed "young or baby-faced looking". Seemed to think he'd seen the Pres's face somewhere but "not a national politician". Big ears, couldn't catch Pres's name. Reassuring TV speech.

Spring 1998: earthquakes, fire, volcanoes, most of east/west coast US destroyed, Japan and most of coastal Asia destroyed, etc.

2000: Guy saw himself in northern Arizona survivalist commune, eking out an existence, in a ranch retreat prepared in 1997 and early 1998, in response to his own predictions (remember Lord Tennyson's line from "The Lady of Shallot" - 'like some bold seer in a trance, seeing all his own mischance...')

Anyway, he made a number of striking observations like the above, with more confirmed details that make his predictions look like one year off, one disaster over! "Off by one error ?" For you programmers out there... :)

-RC

"No slave may have a gun" - Pre-Civil War Virginia state law

-- R. Way Cat (runway_cat@hotmail.com), November 27, 1998

Answers

Actually thought someone "got" the very real threat the Ring of Fire is now posing. Didn't somebody just wonder whether earthquakes, volcanoes, or Y2K would pounce first? We have earthquakes in California, volcanoes in Mexico & Central America going off right now.
When geologists say these events, coming in close 2's now, are not related, they simply have not yet discovered the correlations. Pairs of earthquakes breaking out in nearby geographic locations *are* related, just as the volcanoes erupting near each other are related. Also, scientists have finally realized that yes, heavy rainfall does indeed trigger volcanic activity sometimes.

We're a little nervous now, as the earthquakes are creeping up in pairs, up the Ring Of Fire, toward Cascadia. Also had heavy rain here the last week, already mudslides, flooding + storm-related deaths. Reading about the earthquakes around the Ring this entire last month, plus several volcanoes going off. Does anybody know a good Web site that catalogs the most recent earthquakes & volcanoes? Am looking for that now ... thanks in advance! :)
Ashton & Leska in Cascadia
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-- Leska (allaha@earthlink.net), November 27, 1998.

No connection, but some of the events you're talking about sound like Edgar Cayce's predictions. Cayce died in the 1940's, though.

-- Kevin (mixesmusic@worldnet.att.net), November 27, 1998.

"Does anybody know a good Web site that catalogs the most recent earthquakes & volcanoes? "

Leska: I remember when Ed was on the Art Bell show, I went to his site and saw something about this. He calls it the "Quickening", so check on that link once you get to the site. Don't know if it will help but give it a try.

Art Bell

-- Rob Michaels (sonofdust@net.com), November 27, 1998.

Leska..Hi!...This site doesn't 'do' volcanos, but does list the most recent earthquakes worldwide. Hope this is of help!

http://geology.usgs.gov/quake.shtml

\/\/illis in OKC, OK 11/27/98

-- Willis Thomason (BANDIT1@ontheroad.com), November 27, 1998.

You can also go to

Stan Deyo's site www.millenium-ark.net/ which has LOTS of links and a couple of quasi predictive areas which are good reading.

http://theepicenter.com/news.html is another good reference site.

Chuck

-- Chuck, night driver (rienzoo@en.com), November 27, 1998.

Leska, Drudge does on his site, too:

http://www.drudgereport.com/quake.htm

-- Gayla Dunbar (privacy@please.com), November 27, 1998.

A hearty & robust Thank-you to all for providing such interesting useful links.
Rob Michaels, thanks for the "Quickening" pointer: it's: http://bbs.rowlandnet.com/cgi-bin/WebX?14@@.ee6b422 and I 'favorited' this page.
Willis Thomason, good page for global earthquake updates list, thanks, and USGS has some other helpful pages
http://geology.usgs.gov/quake.shtml
I was hoping to get one page somewhere which had nice concise current lists and colorful little maps of *both* recently erupting volcanoes plus shaking earthquakes, with links on each for full narrative descriptions. Hhhmm, had to interrupt the search for a long run to Costco to stock up more Y2K / Natural Disaster supplies. Everybody's threads on here helped with our shopping list :) BTW, it was jam-packed, not just with Christmas shoppers, but we noticed many carts brimming over with canned food. And USA Today, with the DOD Y2K Fibbing Story, is sold out almost everywhere. At the Nature's store, the stocker said he had just taken a computer course where they did a project on examining Y2K possibilities, and the class concluded that the world is in for a rude shock which will change many attitudes. It seemed everybody we causually 'polled' today not only knew what Y2K was, but was thinking about it and asking friends what *they* thought.

Our boss's husband, a policeman, who two months ago scoffed, said today that "we are thinking of doing what the Canadians are doing, and having all our force on duty throughout the turning period."

Gayla Dunbar, yes, have been clicking Drudge's quake link; it was just that often the links on the quake page did not load or did not have current info, so I was hunting for something better. Thanks!

Chuck the Night Driver, thanks for bringing up the prediction part of this thread again. RC- the original poster - I was so flummoxed by all the new quake 'n volcano news this morning that I didn't respond to your visionary & prediction musings. We used to really get into that type of interesting speculation, but now we are so busy working in the here and now and getting ready, that we don't have time to read the more fascinating 'twilight-tweaking' ideas. But we have a psychological advantage in that they did help us imagine changes years ago.

Now, to find a place for all the cans & bags o future huddle munchies, and to read so many eMails! This forum did not pause for a very long vacation :)
Ashton & Leska in Cascadia
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-- Leska (allaha@earthlink.net), November 27, 1998.

A good site to get information on what is happen around the world is at http://www.discovery.com/online.html You can get daily updates on earthquakes, volcanoes, etc., all reported on this site. Just click on Earth Alert. Hope this helps.

-- Reader (Reader@home.com), November 27, 1998.

A big happy Thank you !! to Reader for that great Discovery Earth Alert page. We'll be clicking *that* a few times per day. Collecting good sites to get a handle on the earth. ;-D
Ashton & Leska in Cascadia
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-- Leska (allaha@earthlink.net), November 27, 1998.

By the way Leska, we are Cascadians too - can see 'em right out the back window. Long may they stand !!

-RC

-- Runway Cat (runway_cat@hotmail.com), November 28, 1998.

Leska, did some investigating, here is a start to some ring of fire links -- http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/ THIS IS A REALLY NEAT MAP!!! -- Diane

Discovery Channel Online -- Earth Alert http://www.discovery.com/news/earthalert/earthalert.html Daily Updates on the State of the Planet

http://www.discovery.com/news/earthalert/981123/quakecalifornia.html Moderate Quake Jolts Far Northern California Nov. 26, 1998 -- The northern extreme of California's Central Valley was jolted by a magnitude-5.2 tremor at 11:50 a.m. Pacific Standard Time on Thursday.

EXTRA! Learn what happens when the earth shakes, rattles and rolls in Discovery Online's expedition to Earthquake Central, the San Andreas Fault. http://www.discovery.com/exp/earthquakes/earthquakes.html

Daily California Tremors http://www.discovery.com/exp/earthquakes/dailyupdate.html This map, produced by the California and Nevada seismic networks, is refreshed every minute. When an earthquake hits anywhere in California, you'll find out here first.

USGS -- Recent Earthquakes in California and Nevada http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/ THIS IS A REALLY NEAT MAP!!!

Northern California - USGS = U.S. Geological Survey, Menlo Park http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/ What's New or Interesting: Spotlight on one page. List of selected pages from this site -- http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/WhatsNew/ Other Resources: Links to related sites on and off the web -- http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/resources/index.html

Southern California - USGS = U.S. Geological Survey, Pasadena http://www-socal.wr.usgs.gov/ Under: Earthquake Information - PRESENT see Southern California Earthquake Commentary & Special Reports -- SCSN Earthquake Reports -- http://www.trinet.org/eqreports/eqreports.html Under: Earthquake Information - FUTURE see Southern California Seismic Hazard Zone Maps and other hazard maps and reports from the California Division of Mines & Geology http://www.consrv.ca.gov/dmg/

Caltech -- Southern California - Caltech = California Institute of Technology http://www.gps.caltech.edu/seismo/seismo.page.html

UNR -- Nevada - UNR = University of Nevada, Reno http:// www.seismo.unr.edu/

Earthquakes elsewhere in the U.S. and around the world http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/QUAKES/CURRENT/current.html

SCSN - Southern CA Seismic Network (Monitoring Network) -- http:// www.trinet.org/scsn/scsn.html The Southern California Seismographic Network (SCSN) is a cooperative project of the U.S. Geological Survey Pasadena office and the Caltech Seismological Laboratory. It is one of the largest and most automated seismographic networks in the world. It consists of more than 350 analog and digital seismographs operated by multiple sources which relay both continuous and triggered seismic data back to a central computer facility in the Seismology Laboratory on the Caltech campus. After the seismic data is processed, it is archived and can be accessed from the Southern California Earthquake Center Data Center. The SCSN is part of the TriNet cooperative project between the USGS, Caltech, and the California Division of Mines & Geology (CDMG). (Can even check their Y2K status at http://www- socal.wr.usgs.gov/given/y2k/scsn_y2k.html)

NSMP - National Strong-Motion Program (Monitoring Network) -- http:// agram.wr.usgs.gov/ TriNet - Caltech/USGS/CDMG cooperative digital seismic network (Monitoring Network) -- http://www.trinet.org/ The Seismic System for Southern California SCIGN - Southern CA Integrated GPS Network (Monitoring Network) -- http://www-socal.wr.usgs.gov/scign/ -- Our group's operational role includes data acquisition and the operation and maintenance of stations. Our group also has primary responsibility for providing earthquake information from the SCIGN array in the event of a large earthquake.

CA Office of Emergency Services (Govenors Office) -- http:// www.oes.ca.gov Y2K Implications For California Emergency Management

Northern California - UCB = University of California, Berkeley UC Berkeley Seismological Laboratory (UCB) http://www.seismo.berkeley.edu/seismo/Homepage.html

Earthquake Preparedness Information http://www.seismo.berkeley.edu/seismo/resource/preparedness.html These links offer a variety of useful information on how to prepare your family and your home for a damaging earthquake.

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 28, 1998.

And ...

The Earthquake Preparedness Handbook - Los Angeles City Fire Department http://www.cityofla.org/LAFD/eqindex.htm

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 28, 1998.

Ashton and Leska,

Check out this site from Stan Deyo, an American who relocated to Australia because he was worried about "coming earth changes"...

Link is:-

http://www.ballarat.net.au/~standeyo/Geophysics.html

-- Andy (andy_rowland@msn.com), November 28, 1998.

Neat site Andy, thanks. It will be interesting to pay attention to the public and global consciousness levels as Y2K awareness heats up next year and the shifts in planetary weather patterns and additional "earth changes."

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 28, 1998.

Ashton and Leska..Hi again!..Here is another site you may find of interest: http://www.iris.edu/

Once you have the page loaded, click on the small Seismic Monitor map and you will have a full screen display of =ALL= earthquake activity from 30 minutes ago to five years ago! Another neat thing is the display of the day/night progression around the globe, also up- dated every 30 min. The snakelike strings of purple dots are areas of seismic activity along the tectonic plates, or 'The Ring of Fire' as it's commonly called. Scroll down from the IRIS main page for more clickable links. I think this will be another one you will add to your 'favorites'. Have fun and be well!......

\/\/illis in OKC, OK 11/28/98

-- Willis Thomason (BANDIT1@ontheroad.com), November 28, 1998.

Another site reporting "earth changes" is:

http://members.tripod.com/~thepcguru/changes.html

Dan's Earth Changes Page

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 28, 1998.

TO R. Way Cat, It sounds like you are talking about Chet Snow. He used to have a web site, but it wasn't active the last time I looked.

-- beckie (sunshine_horses@yahoo.com), November 28, 1998.

Diane, thank you for all those great sites! You were on a roll, so to speak. ;) And they've come in handy all too soon.

Willis, that IRIS is super! Check that several times a day. Click in the middle of an earthquake circle to get the latest almost-real-time table updates. Thanks!

Ashton & Leska in Cascadia, where the sword of an 8-9 earthquake plus several volcanoes vie to disturb our peace
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-- Leska (allaha@earthlink.net), December 02, 1998.

Willis, way cool!! That site is now one of my top ten favorites on the internet! I wonder if there is a correlation between a physical news making event & the resulting emotional disruptions which then trigger a delayed reaction such as an earthquake. (The reverse is certainly true). Indonesia comes to mind. Look how big their orange circle is and think back on the extreme economic situation and riots over the last month or so. Humm. I wonder?

Donna, Dan's Earth Changes Page is fascinating too, thanks. -- Diane

Seismic Monitor http://www.iris.washington.edu/seismic/60_2040_1_8.html

The display is updated every 30 minutes using data from the National Earthquake Information Center. Earthquakes that have occurred within the last 24 hours are shown with red circles. The circles fade through orange to yellow within 15 days. After 15 days, the circles are replaced by light purple dots that remain on the map for five years. The distribution of seismicity over the past 5 years demonstrates how earthquakes define the boundaries of tectonic plates, and the relationship between topography and seismicity. The Earths shadow illustrates day/night and seasonal changes.

Click in the center of a circle and a list of all events will appear with the event you selected highlighted in yellow and events within 10 degrees of that event highlighted in white. Events that are 6.0 and greater are linked to special information pages that try to explain the where, how and why that particular event occurred. Click on an individual seismic observatory (shown by the purply colored triangles) to bring up a station information page.

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), December 02, 1998.

Zinged Richmond, CA: earthquakes, hail, tornadoes, and another earthquake! Bet they will be prepared for Y2K because their world has been rocked out of the zombified normal hypnosis of "nothing can go wrong."

Diane, did you feel that last one this morning?

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-- Leska (allaha@earthlink.net), December 06, 1998.

Yes, Chet Snow, I do believe that was the guy. Wonder if he's holed up in No. AR right now ....

-RC

-- runway cat (runway_cat@hotmail.com), December 06, 1998.

No, Leska, didn't feel it in the physical sense. Sure feel emotions "heating" up in other senses.

The Bay Area news is really starting to push earthquake preparedness now. Even doing spots on stores to visit in order to purchase supplies. Maybe the earth is cooperating in jump-starting Y2K preparedness here. Good job, M.E. (Mother Earth!) Just keep in gentle please -- not over 5.5!!

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), December 06, 1998.