I think you will all agree that Pierre has, let us say, become a tad portly. For the sake of his health has anyone got a suitable slimming diet to get him back to 10 stone by y2k (or before).

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 20, 1998

Answers

Richard:

I've always considered Y2K America's answer to obesity. Gluttonny is pretty hard to maintain when food is being rationed. Very little room for junk food in the pantry and no fast foods or pizza delivery to satisfy the cravings. Though if I catch your drift, I agree that it would be far less painful to be in shape prior to Y2K.

David.

-- David (David@BankPacman.com), November 20, 1998.

Crow. Lots and lots and lots of crow. High protein, low carb.

Steamed. Baked. Sauteed. Grilled.

Served by romantic lantern light!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- dr atkins (shaken@stirred.com), November 20, 1998.

How about MRE's? After all, how many fat GI's do you see?

-- Ted Markow (tmarkow@agate.net), November 20, 1998.

1. Open mouth.

2. Insert foot.

3. Chew vigorously.

Nice low cal operation and very little fat.

S.O.B.

-- sweetolebob (La) (buffgun@hotmail.com), November 20, 1998.

Wanna see de Jager in action, on the job? Tailors should click on the following link:

http://www.bog.frb.fed.us/y2k/CSPAN/19980602/deJager.ram

RealPlayer required.

-- Kevin (mixesmusic@worldnet.att.net), November 20, 1998.

dr atkins and SOBob, LOL! Thanks!

-- Tricia the Canuck (jayles@telusplanet.net), November 20, 1998.

Kevin, that was great!

Richard, you seem obsessed with people's weight. You wonder if every programmer looks like the one on Jurassic Park. How come? To answer your question from earlier, neither Cory Hamasaki, nor Gary North, are obese.

-- Gayla Dunbar (privacy@please.com), November 20, 1998.

Kevin;

Thanks for the "real time".

I have read the transcript of the CSIS and enjoyed it all.

Do you have a real time for it? Or for Yardeni?

Is it public domain, or is there some "shyster" restrictions involved in it"

Anywho, thanks again. I may replay it for my family (and have some popcorn too).

S.O.B.

-- sweetolebob (La) (buffgun@hotmail.com), November 20, 1998.

S.O.B., use that same URL, but substitute "yardeni.ram" for "dejager.ram". Worked for me.
Yarden i on Real Audio
BTW, I didn't find de Jager soft on anything. If anything he was quiet blunt and predicting TEOTWAWKI at today's remedial pace. I had read the transcript, but seeing him on video and hearing his voice with emphasis made this message much more forceful. Eat crow for what? Saying he's still optimistic we can fix somethings? For hitting the "power that be's" with a 4x4 on the forehead and tell 'em to get their butts in gear? What else could he say? How else could he say it? "Run for the hills everyone, it's too late"? Then the "power that be's" would not even grant him the priviledge of being heard. He'd be left to ranting here with us, on this forum.
Yardeni on the other hand, is the one who should go on a crow diet. He's stuck on the same rant like a broken record. "60% (now 70%) chance of a global recession comparable to the '70's oil shortage." I don't care if he raises his prediction to 100%, he still doesn't "get it". I've lived through many "recessions" in my short life. One more or less wouldn't phase me at all. I wish he would stop using this word. And stop comparing an oil shortage with information shortage. The oil industry is but one tiny segment that will be affected by this information shortage. If that causes a recession in the '70's range, what's the name for the global economic change that would ensue when the rest of it all fails, Mr. Yardeni?

-- Chris (catsy@pond.com), November 20, 1998.

Oh yeah, finally now I know how to pronounce his name. It's dee Yayger! All this time I was pronouncing it day jah ger (as in deja vu) but I had Yardenee right ;)

Dis fohrum iz so wonderfool!

-- Chris (catsy@pond.com), November 20, 1998.

Chris

Don't shoot the messenger! De Jager can be classified as a "generalist" or "programmer" and he speaks from that POV. I found his presentation to be anything but soft on the issue. Yardeni, on the other hand, is an economist and addresses his specialty. He should not be flamed for *not* speaking outside his area of expertise. Now *that* would get him flamed too, wouldn't it?

"He who is not against us is for us."

-- Elbow Grease (Elbow_Grease@AutoShop.com), November 20, 1998.

Chris;

Thank you for the link thingy. It worked for me too. Someday I'll (maybe) understand these da*n boxes enough to figure it out for myself. It is hard to realize that this sucker is dumber than I am, and yet "knows" so much more.

FWIW: I didn't say anything about crows, and I tend to agree with you about his POV. I assume that you included all of that just to save the "finger walking". I take no offense at all.

S.O.B.

-- sweetolebob (La) (buffgun@hotmail.com), November 20, 1998.

S.O.B, you're right I included everything on the same post, I'm sorry it wasn't directed at you starting with "BTW". Dr. Atkins mentioned the crow diet. The post all turned out bunched up too, even though I put line braker tags between paragraphs, don't know why.

Elbow Grease, I'm not shooting De Jager, I'm praising him. I'm shooting Yardeni though, because he's distorting the message in a dangerous way. And I understand he's speaking only from the economist POV. It still doesn't add up.

-- Chris (catsy@pond.com), November 20, 1998.

There's a lengthy list of videos you can view in the RealPlayer format at:

http://www.bog.frb.fed.us/y2k/video_index.htm

-- Kevin (mixesmusic@worldnet.att.net), November 20, 1998.

Kevin;

Once again, Thank you. This time for the listing of the real times.

Ya dood good dude.

Now, I believe I'll go pop that popcorn and see what whats playing on the monitor this evening.

S.O.B.

-- sweetolebob (La) (buffgun@hotmail.com), November 20, 1998.

It doesn't add up is right. His own netbook doesn't support his conclusion. After reading it back in the summer I was thinking it sounded more like a major Depression and not a recession. Holding this view flys in the face of his own data. Wasn't it him who testified to congress about Y2K and our food supply chain? I suspect he really does get it but he's still publicly 'stuck' on 70% recession. He didn't get to be Chief Economist of a global investment banking firm for nothing. Besides, somebody's got to sell folks these wonderful stocks that only go up.

-- Robert Michaels (sonofdust@net.com), November 20, 1998.

Chris and Robert Michaels:

An economist, especially a notorious one 8-) >>never<< says the "D" word, not even in his sleep!

-- Elbow Grease (Elbow_Grease@AutoShop.com), November 20, 1998.

LOL, good point Elbow Grease!

I noticed the contradiction between the info he gives and the "70% chance of a recession"... that's just his way of getting the reader to figure things out and think, "hell, it's going to be a lot worse than that!" without actually saying the dreaded "d" word.

-- Max Dixon (Ogden, Utah USA) (Max.Dixon@gte.net), November 21, 1998.

Back to Pierre's portliness. As long as you are in shape, I say keep that extra poundage. You will be more likely to survive Y2K longer with the insulation and "hoarded" food on board. I have quit worrying about my extra pounds. Unfortunately my worrying about Y2K has dropped those extra pounds off me anyway. Oh well.

-- Lois Knorr (knorr@attcanada.net), November 21, 1998.