de Jager tries to talk tough to Clinton : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread

Peter de Jager has written an "Open Letter to President Clinton." Maybe we all should follow his lead. I hope it works.

de Jager's Open Letter to President Clinton

-- Buddy (DC) (, November 18, 1998


Total waste of time - Clinstone knows very well what is going to go down, he has some of the best advisors in the world, how could he possibly not know? And the silence from our compter wunderkind Al Bore is deafening - and he heads up the computer technology taskforce, responsible for, amongst other things getting PC's in every classroom in the country...

There is an agenda being played out here folks.

-- Andy (, November 18, 1998.

Well, I for one am very happy that Mr. de Jager had written this letter. I wonder if he actually sent it...I do hope Clinton or someone close to him reads it.


-- Michael Taylor (, November 18, 1998.

Whether the prez reads the letter or not is irrelevant. De Jager's suggestions are meaningless. The letter is well-written and well- intentioned, but to suggest that changing leadership on Y2K projects will, at this late date, have any effect other than further chaos is ludicrous. Seems de Jager just won't give up his optimism. Good for him, I guess. I can only hope he is making preparations. He lives in Canada, after all.

-- Steve Hartsman (, November 19, 1998.

With all due respect to Mr. de Jager, his suggestion smacks of the "throw more bodies at it and it'll be OK" school of IT Supervisory Management. That is, the people IT Managers report to in the real world, I have no idea how many times I had to remind people that this was not a valid philosophy. If I have used the pregnancy analogy once, I've used it three dozen times. If it takes 1 woman 9 months to deliver a baby, then it really does OT take 9 women 1 month!!

Mr. de Jager seems to have fallen for the theory that regardless of how late we are, we can still save it by working more hours and throwing more bodies at it. Sorry, but you can't add enough to bring down a 27 or a 30+ year negative variance. Your PERT chart STILL has a lot of uncolored bubbles!!!


-- Chuck a Night Driver (, November 19, 1998.

Up to a point Y2k is a project that you can throw bodies at, since there are effectively lots of mini projects. Its not like a new large system development that needs different staffing levels in the various phases. Obviously integration testing of related systems requires a lot of co-ordination and simultaneity. In an average organisation there will be many "business areas" with lots of systems. Anyway what is Clinton's hidden agenda, its obviously not in his political interest to have breakdown of the infrastructure!

-- Richard Dale (, November 19, 1998.

What does he care, Richard? He's just going to be among the many CEOrats abandoning ship. What indicates to you that the man has any consideration for his party, his country, his family or anyone else?


And why don't the margins of this field register accurately with the margins of the field on the message board?

-- Hallyx (, November 19, 1998.

Richard, I'm not suggesting Clintstone and Co. engineeered Y2K but my thinking goes that TPTB have realised by now that it is pretty much going to be a done deal - they are not mobilising the public whatsoever in either ackowledgement, acceptance or preparedness. I'm convinced that they plan on utilising the upcoming disaster to further their own agenda, wouldn't you do the same if you were of that mindset? Or maybe I'm missing something, perhaps it's all over the media and I'm in some sort of denial:-)

Soooo, plans are quietly continuing apace behind the scenes, the elections in 2000 will probably not happen (we all know why) so he gets to stay in "power" indefinitely, martial law will be declared, no doubt 3 or 4Q '99, there will be a thinning of the herd inevitably, and then what?

You're guess is as good as mine. However those caves in Utah sure will have plenty of food and power and everything necessary to sustain "government" through these turbulent times.

I gotta stop listening to Art Bell don't I:-)?

But the question still remains to be answered - why the deafening silence on this whole issue from Willie and his gang (and I'm including both parties, as they're one and the same)? There must be method to the madness, no?

-- Andy (, November 19, 1998.

Andy, I almost hate to ask, but . . . what caves in Utah? Are they the western version of the abandoned mines full of MREs outside Kansas City?

-- JDC (, November 19, 1998.

Sorry - picked out Utah as I thought I read about these caves somewhere - did you see the scenes in "Deep Impact"? These places do exist, several, for the Government/Military/Big Cheeses to retreat to in times of unrest or war.

-- Andy (, November 19, 1998.

Good for Peter. You NEVER know what will help or who else will see it and cause someone to get motivated.

I strongly suspect Clinton. et. al. is waiting for the Iraqi situation to play out, the impeachment hearings to be over, the holiday season to be merry and done with, and come January, when "problems" start floating into the media and public's eye, then he'll launch whatever plans he and his crew are working on now.


-- Diane J. Squire (, November 19, 1998.

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