Sunrise/Shenandoah NP II

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-- Carlos Co (co@che.udel.edu), November 18, 1998

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Yeah, there is a LOT OF FLARE courtesy of the Tiffen two stop ND grad filter in front of a Canon 70-200/2.8.

-- Carlos Co (co@che.udel.edu), November 18, 1998.

This image is overpowered by the sun. I can't tell Anything about the foreground, much less that it has something to do with Shenandoah.

-- Larry Korhnak (lvk@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu), November 18, 1998.

unless there is something really wrong with my eyes, my monitor, my modem lines, and/or the jpeg compression scheme, the image looks very digitally contrived. i'm sorry if i'm wrong but the sun looks like it was drawn and pasted into the image on a computer, even if the rest of the photo is original the saturation was bumped up almost to the max at least on the red channel. if you want to see if you can pass off a computer created image, at least try with one that has a chance. this image simple doesn't work

-- Tim Tregubov (timofei@cyberportal.net), November 18, 1998.

It is very nice to hear what people think of this picture because I wasn't personally sure whether to throw it away or not. BTW, if you increase the brightness of your monitor, you will see the mountains/fog or clouds in the foreground.

-- Carlos Co (co@che.udel.edu), November 19, 1998.

Carlos,

I'd print it. The dual suns are hot, like a sci-fi scene. On my monitor I can see there's just enough detail in the silloutte of the hills to keep it interesting.

So where DID the second sun come from? Is it a reflection from the filter?

Don't toss it, by any means. This image has shock value.

If you want to spend the bucks, get a drum scan, and retouch only lower flare in the red channel with the dodge/burn tool in Photoshop while viewing the composite of all three channels. That way you can eliminate enough of the flare to get a dynamite print. Try it on this scan and you'll see what I mean. Use a very small pressure setting, like 15% on the tool, and a relatively large, soft brosh to avoid harsh edges. That'll work wonders on flare, and then you can just have your lab output the file (60-75 MB)to 6x7 film for up to poster size enlargement.

Best regards,

Keith

-- Keith Clark (ClarkPhotography@spiritone.com), November 19, 1998.



Definetly one to pass right over the trashbin and straight into the filing cabniet. Much better than other similar shots posted on this site. tait

-- Tait Stangl (taits@usa.net), November 20, 1998.

Honestly, I was very surprised to see two suns in the picture. In the actual scene, me and my fiancee both recall seeing only one sun, i.e. no reflections. Unfortunately, I wasn't looking at the viewfinder when I took the picture (remote release) - but it is most likely due to the Cokin P type Tiffen ND grad filter.

Keith, thanks for all the encouraging words with PhotoShop. Now that I have it, I just have to find the time and read the two books you had recommended.

-- Carlos Co (co@che.udel.edu), November 20, 1998.


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