This is to inform the forum that I have finally seen the light, new ageism IS the future. It will form the basis of Rickology, my handle henceforth will be "empty spaces".

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 09, 1998

Answers

Richard,

The "New Age" movement is filled with countless "old" wisdom. Anyone who has really done their homework, understands that. Also the preferred term for the knowledgeable is "metaphysics," or "beyond the physical." A good portion of the so-called new agers are bubble heads. Just like anywhere else. If you are going join us, please do your studying and hang with the wisdom-seekers.

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 09, 1998.

Richard, you should not make such important decisions without first getting all the facts. There is a great new country music video by the Dixie Chicks, "Wide Open Spaces", that you should see. It will change your life.

-- Jack (jsprat@eld.net), November 09, 1998.

Had you going there for a minute!

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 09, 1998.

No I've decided to join the Alfa Romeo Owners Club, buy a rusty heap and pose in it. They do have some good rallies to Italy and France.

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 09, 1998.

Trouble is I'll have to follow up a few hundred yards back in my Honda.

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 09, 1998.

New Age religion is NOT the future. Christianity is the ONLY religion and you will see that very soon. Be ready! The truth will set you free! Lizzy

-- Lizzy (Lizzy@usa.net), November 10, 1998.

'Christianity is the only future...'. Wonder what the Jews, Buddhists, Moslems, Mormons, Latter Day Saints, Scientologists :), Malaysian Fire Walkers, Native American Shamans, etc etc would say about that. Seems to me that lack of dogma, ego, judgementalism, and close mindedness is the only possible future with which the human race will succeed in the long term. Just MHO.

-- Damian Solorzano (oggy1@webtv.net), November 10, 1998.

All of the religious cults have their HQs in East Grinstead Sussex (UK for excolons). L Ron's followers, Mormons, Christian Scientists, everyone you can think of. Herbalists, acupuncturists and all the alternative medicinists extant also congregate. Personally I only go there to visit the "Majestic Wine Warehouse" which has good deals on claret, burgundy and other fine wines, even some American.

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 10, 1998.

There is no such thing as "new age religion"....,....There is no new age club,...humans, me included, barely out of the cave.... struggling to understand life in the universe love to label and pigeonhole...it is almost as annoying a habit as the writing of poetry. LOL

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 10, 1998.

There is no such thing as "new age religion" ....,....There is no new age club,...humans, me included, barely out of the cave.... I know that, you know that but she don't know that. Come on you're a lot more advanced than that from what I perceive, don't tar yourself with the Deedah brush (thought I'd get that one in).

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 10, 1998.

***don't tar yourself with the Deedah brush (thought I'd get that one in).****

Oh my gosh...Did I do THAT? :) Actually I'm trying to hold my natural arrogance in check...been reading Huxley's "Island" for the second time...such good stuff on all the silly things humans do. For a great take on absurdity pick up "The Myth of Sisyphus", by Albert Camus. Gee I hope they kept the file cards at the library when they replaced it with computers...I need my library!!!!!

How's that for a totally tangential response...? Must be all that new age talk... :)

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 10, 1998.

Yes Aldous Huxley is my favourite author (for intellect), unfortunately I was negatively influenced by "existentialism" in the past.

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 11, 1998.

The West Sussex County Library system was made y2k compliant in July, they closed the Libraries for 2 days though.

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 11, 1998.

Richard

Come on "eat of my fruit and you will be as God"

The beginning of that "Ancient Wisdom" Genesis chap. 3

Been there - done that. From an X - New Ager. eve

-- Eve ((garden@eden.com)), November 11, 1998.

I would have been a sort of "armchair new ageist" with pipe and slippers by the fireplace with someone to make the tea, in between solving the most dastardly crime known to man (y2k).

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 12, 1998.

Anagram of new ageism: Swine A.G.M

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 12, 1998.

More anags (Uncle Deedah): He clean dude, He clued dean Well can you do any better?

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 12, 1998.

Minor, probably irre[leva/vere]nt, observations:

1. In U.S. at least, a common meaning for "ageism" is discrimination against the elderly, formed parallel to "racism".

2. The pairing of "new-age" and "sewage" could be useful to limericists.

-- No Spam Please (anon@ymous.com), November 12, 1998.

"sewageism" -- discrimination against urban effluent ?

-- No Spam Please (anon@ymous.com), November 12, 1998.

To paraphrase: whenever I hear racist, ageist, sexist etc I reach for the alka seltzer. They are just pejorative terms adopted by the politically correct (or corrupt). You don't agree with me therefore you are an "ist".

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 12, 1998.

But wouldn't that apply to "-ism" as well?

-- No Spam Please (anon@ymous.com), November 12, 1998.

Wasn't getting at you No Spam, Anag. of Diane Squires, "an dis is queer", have to think of some more 'isms.

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 12, 1998.

Cephalod molluscs approach, "ie squids near"

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 12, 1998.

-- Sane Poems Pal (anon@ymous.com), November 12, 1998.

Just pipped me, Englishmen in Australia begging, "sane poms plea".

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 12, 1998.

Conversation overhead about denizen of "kompound": "Hunk? 'e dead"

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 12, 1998.

Unbridled wash time chez Donna: "non rule bath day".

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 12, 1998.

Donna's dismissal of y2k food shortages: "a bun dearth only".

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 12, 1998.

Oh, I see, Rickology is all about talking to yourself.

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 12, 1998.

*****Donna's dismissal of y2k food shortages: "a bun dearth only". ******

When did I do that? Or are you referring to a different Donna? I am storing food and growing more.

As far as all the very clever and adolescent bashing of "old wisdom"...I would love to see you all climb off your high horses and stop stereotyping...There is no one accurate portrait of someone who studies and/or embraces any of the old wisdoms.

Goodness! Sounds like a room full of insecure 12-year olds...and I'd like to send you to your rooms for an hour. But I'm smiling... :)

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 12, 1998.

Donna, these are anagrams. Don't you have crosswords in the US. Every great religion or belief is started by someone.

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 13, 1998.

If you don't mind me saying but many Americans have zero sense of humour or irony. In spite of that you still produced the Marx Brothers and Bob Hope, even Cheers.

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 13, 1998.

The people who have the least sense of humour take themselves too seriously, like fanatic adherents to cults or political beliefs etc.

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 13, 1998.

Can I make it plain, this post is a wind-up.

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 13, 1998.

Anagrams of Richard Dale: Red Hair Lad Hail Red Car Chair Ladder Hard Rice Lad A Drear Child

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 13, 1998.

I'm much to grouchy lately. :(

I love to laugh...all Y2K and no play is making me sour. Sorry, Richard,...all. I'm sending me to my room now.

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 13, 1998.

Your "anags" are even more prophetic than you realize (realise for our non American English speakers) You're getting warmer! I shall say no more than this: You have come close to unmasking me with you "anag"-

(t)he clean dude

Mrs. Deedah agrees, it is funny how close you are. Hee Hee!

(no more clues!)

Haw Haw!

-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), November 13, 1998.

Wasn't Bob Hope born in England?

-- Sane Poems Pal (anon@ymous.com), November 14, 1998.

I noticed in one of these threads that you sing "I Will Survive," Uncle Deedah. Do you also sing Sister Sledge? (An inquiring mind waiting to hear a pin drop...)

-- Kevin (mixesmusic@worldnet.att.net), November 14, 1998.

Brilliant, Richard. What kind of mind constructs anagrams? I can't even unscramble them.

Hallyx

"If you want to connect with their conscious minds, smack them on the head with a two by four -- don't be subtle, write with a hammer."---Richard Reese

-- Hallyx (Hallyx@aol.com), November 14, 1998.

OK Donna I'll join you. The only anags I can think of for Gary North are thorny rag, gray thorn, thy groan'r

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 16, 1998.

With Hallyx, it amazes me completely that you mind does them with ease...I can barely think my way out of a paper sack in the last week...Kudos to the anagram builders and puzzlers.

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 16, 1998.

Donna, you do yourself an injustice, I rate you as one of the top 5 de yourdon posters, there is no fixed order.

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 16, 1998.

I wondered whether (t)he clean dude was a result of a "non-bath rule day" session, though better not say any more, treading on dodgy ground.

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 16, 1998.

Ale rich Dard...That fits you Richard. Dard is language of Tibetans in Indus river valley. Your prose make as much sense as theirs to me ;)

-- Chris (catsy@pond.com), November 16, 1998.

OK, Uncle Deedah, even though you ran away, I will try to guess. You and Mrs. D operate a motel, or maybe you supervise the cleaning crew of a large hotel that caters to Snowbirds!!! Am I close?

-- Gayla Dunbar (privacy@please.com), November 22, 1998.

It's obvious, isn't it. Unc is the original Mr.Clean! - Signed, My floors AREN'T mirrors!

-- Tricia the Canuck (jayles@telusplanet.net), November 22, 1998.

Here's some more valuable information...

Richard Dale - had rice lard

Donna Barthuley - duly born Athena -or- hot aryan bundle

Uncle Deedah - healed dunce

Diane Squire - queried as in

Gary North - hang or try

Rick Cowles - clock wires

Edward Yardeni - wired and ready

Tony Blair - liar by ton

William Clinton - nail clown limit

-- Max Dixon (Ogden, Utah USA) (Max.Dixon@gte.net), November 24, 1998.

Max these are very good, especially: Donna Barthuley - duly born Athena -or- hot aryan bundle

Uncle Deedah - healed dunce (this one in particular)

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 24, 1998.

Max Dixon

Did you know that the Unc. D was born in UT? (The second answer to I was born in UT: No Im not a Mormon, though they are very nice people, in my experience) I still retain some exceptionally fond memories of buck hunting in the Rockies as a wee young lad, heading out with Dad in the IH Scout. (Anything less was just a car)

As to the above referenced anagram:

HEALED DUNCE

You have IT, right on, but, the real question is

WAS HE HEALED IN TIME?

-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), November 25, 1998.

Donna?

"Hot Aryan bundle"

Conjures up in my mind metalic breastworks, Viking style.

WOW (Yikes?)

YIKES (Wow?)

-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), November 25, 1998.

Donna must be the "Queen Boedaceia" of the forum. She had pointed armour and great spikes in her chariot, led the old Britons into battle, won by all accounts. I think the enemy fled at the very sight.

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 25, 1998.

Nah, Donna doesn't do metal spikes. She does the "sheet flapping in the breeze" thing.

-- Gayla Dunbar (privacy@please.com), November 25, 1998.

Oh Donna's another toga-wearing Isadora type then, sounds OK, like the "Flaming June" painting by Lord Leighton. Does she lounge about in decadent Roman splendour next to a marbled pool (whilst eating her fudge brownies). With the Y2K mob knocking down the door of the palace valiantly being held at bay by the Praetorian Guard.

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 26, 1998.

BTW I've checked out Spring Cottage, its all compliant, but it does need a lick of paint here and there.

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 26, 1998.

Hahaha....LOL...actually the breastplates are hidden coyly under the sheet.

I was just telling Max on ICQ that my soul mate teases me all the time about being one of those blond, blue-eyed superior people..... I blush appropriately and kick him in the shins with my jackboots!

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 27, 1998.