On Y2K Overwhelm & The Seeing The Best That Can Happen

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On Y2K Overwhelm & The Seeing The Best That Can Happen

Whenever one is too close to a problem, and cant see a solution, take a time-out.

Walk in a park or a forest. Find fountains or waterfalls and listen to the relaxing sound of flow. Hear birds. Watch butterflies. Smell pungent earth. Listen to the wind rustling through trees. Sniff fragrant flowers.

Placing ourselves within nature, and watching the timeless interplay between all its connected parts, is a great healer.

Try sometime sitting on a rock, feeling earths energy ground you, and imagine yourself a planet away, looking back at our earth. Imagine yourself a galaxy or even lightyears away from your problems.

What are problems from a higher vantage point? From an observers position, they are temporary disruptions. Time heals, time solves. Choices heal, choices solve. In choosing to detach from problems, in fact let them go, it is much easier to step back into their solution. What is the bigger picture? Whats important? What is the Truth? (It changes daily and depends on ones location and point-of-view). What is the worst that can happen? What is the best that can happen? Where is in-between? What is real? Whats illusion? Who really knows or appears to?

Imagine yourself strolling on a blustery, rainy day, walking down a rock lined pathway towards a swollen, rushing, boulder-filled creek. A wooden footbridge crosses over. It is slick and shiny wet. Sounds of churning water deafen. As you stand centerpoint over boiling turmoil, looking upstream, the energy coming straight at you feels like it will knock you down. You clutch the hand rail, tense, get bracingly ready for the onslaught. Rather like lifes problems.

Most people hang on, for dear life, looking upstream, feeling overwhelmed. I urge you to let go, turn around, and look downstream.

You will see an orderly, although noisy flow. A river of life ready to carry you further than you thought you could go. A wise teacher once said turn the other cheek. I think what he meant, was, turn around, do something different. Change the way things are, into what they could be. Relax. Be aware. Follow the intuitions and synchronicities. See the bigger picture, the clearer vision. Step into the solutions. Just flow. (And it helps to do it, with love in your heart).

Your experience of watching an event, is different from being inside it. When inside the event, there are so many different experiences of it.

To either paraphrase or quote, I believe it was Albert Einstein who said You do not solve a problem from the same consciousness that created it.

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To continue with an earlier topic What if's...the positive shift of y2k on the uncategorized Threads (Michael Taylor, 1998-10-25)...

What do YOU think are some of the societal and personal benefits we can derive from the Y2K crisis??


-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 03, 1998


In discussing the topic of Y2K with a group of like-minded friends, we came up with a list of so many positive things that can be done between now and the Year 2000 shift.

One of the more intriguing ones was that there is a group that plans to televise symphonies and musical concerts in each of the 24 time zones around the globe in either December or on New Years Eve 1999. The idea was to fill the whole planet with music to honor a new millennium.

What an uplifting thing to do! What a way of also honoring all the tired programmers and refocusing scared people. Ill try to track down the who, what, when, where, why and how of the organizers.


-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 03, 1998.

I believe that people who always answer their own posts (to insure it makes it to the top of the "recent answers" list) should be flogged.

-- PNG (png@gol.com), November 03, 1998.

At the discussion board we started at the end of August, we sought to, and still strive to look beyond what we suppose to be disruptions and changes to the society and culture and what we can envision "beyond". The permutations and combinations are as unlimited as our minds...

I am looking forward to the end of the insanity that is the greed-driven economy of the last 40 years...a forced (voluntary) simplicity...beyond what chaotic events may happend...

For anyone who wishes to see what we have already envisioned...and/or contribute to the mind wildfire..come see us at :

http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb134913 Beyond 2000 Discussion Board


-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 03, 1998.

Donna -- Sometimes to get to the "beyond" 2000, we have to start with where we are, otherwise we may never make it.

PNG -- annoying little habit, sorry. Got tired of rocks when some people focused on one little word that didn't jive with their vocabulary list, rather than the spirit of the message. Hoped to make a leading statement. (Don't think I know how to say something that won't add to my rock collection. Times too short).


-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 03, 1998.

One of the things I worry about is that 14 year old kid who works in the neighborhood video store down the street here in Brooklyn. His single Mom is the receptionist at a small tool and dye factory, and the money he earns at the vid shop pays for his and his sister's lunch at school (plus a few treats, of course). He may never have had the opportunity to sit by a babbling brook and contemplate Truth and the Big Picture. He has no idea what he's about to be hit with, and he won't understand it when it happens.

We forget about that kid...

-- pshannon (pshannon@inch.com), November 03, 1998.

Diane,...absolutely one must consider where one is...but to have no horizon is equivalent to not being able to navigate... We are envionsioning permaculture approach to land and living...changes in economy...We fully expect the disruptions that may come of Y2K...we are focused beyond our preparations for that.....

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 03, 1998.

Diane's post is encouraging, but preparedness not positivism is going to make the difference in the Y2K outcome. It would be nice if the story had a happy ending like in How The Grinch Stole Christmas, where the Milne...er, Grinch was wrong about how the Whos in Whoville would react to a loused up Xmas. Unfortunately, Dr. Suess did not write this one.

The positive attitude will be needed after the collapse. By then we should have plenty of time to be going around "smelling the pungent earth" :)

-- a (a@a.a), November 03, 1998.

And your point is?

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 03, 1998.

Post Y2K positive attitude:

This positively sucks! I got positively nuttin to eat! My stocks went positively down a rat hole! Those fellows over there with grumbling bellies look positvely frightening!

-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), November 03, 1998.

****preparedness not positivism is going to make the difference in the Y2K outcome. *****

Is preparedness and positivism mutally exclusive...? When and where? Are you asking if me, as a positive person is prepared for the worst that Y2K can throw? The answer is yes.

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 03, 1998.

Crud, I cannot conjugate verbs for doo-doo this late at night....

ARE preparedness and positivism mutally exclusive...? When and where? Are you asking if me, as a positive person IF I am prepared for the worst that Y2K can throw? The answer is yes, ongoingly. (revised grammer)

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 03, 1998.

Donna my dear

We must somehow shake off this feeling that a teacher is looking over our shoulder. Hee Hee!

-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), November 03, 1998.

I've been trying to lose the "teacher is looking" feeling for years...I'm almost there....Nice of you to remind me Uncle....

And speaking of which...are you dang OLD enough to be my uncle....? I was born in the Year Of The Bad Water, 1952....I think you might qualify for "dutch uncle" status...but.....we may be nearer cohorts, than not.

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 03, 1998.

Cohorts is OK, mischievous bugger that I am, cahoots sounds better. BTW, an Uncle can be as old or as young as papa's last urge.

-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), November 04, 1998.

OH my gosh, and geezus...Papa has a niece his age,..which of course has nothing what-so-ever to do with me.....but may say somthing about my gene pool.....I think I prefer...FRIEND, and Cohort...and Dear Heart...which I call all people I care about...

And I bet Unc will stick...s'okay..."Unc, my friend," is a goodness.

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 04, 1998.

I AM looking over your shoulder. :-) I haven't corrected anybody since I made the promise. (Now several are correcting me- or trying to- that's OK, turnabout is FAIR play!)

-- Gayla Dunbar (privacy@please.com), November 04, 1998.

Trying to? All my sucessful efforts and I only get a "trying to"!


This doesn't answer her original question though does it? Have we successfully evaded the "Master Manipulator" again?

-- Robert A. Cook, P.E. (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), November 04, 1998.

A lot of Diane's "like-minded" friends live in complete squalor a hippie commune near Bath which occasionally takes to the road in old (non-compliant) vehicles as a hippie caravan, much to everyone's disgust. They all live off welfare. Yes I like walking in the woods, taking photos, enjoying nature, its not a way of life for most unless you have talent as an artist etc and are able to make a living doing so. Lets face it only a minute percent of a minute percent of the population have any real creative ability, enabling them to live "outside" of an economy (but not having to 9-5 I mean). Even they rely on the 9-5's.

-- Richard Dale (rdale@figroup.co.uk), November 04, 1998.

Like Diane and Donna, I radiantly sparkle with what we surely should view as the Wonderful Opportunity that Y2K gives us to build afresh. "y2k and ???", the alternative Y2K discussion forum, blossoms with this vision at http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb179366

-- Jack (jsprat@eld.net), November 04, 1998.

In reference to Uncle. Being the 16th child, the last, in my family, I was and uncle to six the second that I was born. No T.V. ? Was 17yrs. in 52. Wow.. seems so long ago. Also enjoyed Walton's Pond. If sniffer still works alright.

-- Charon (Thatplace@below.com), November 04, 1998.

Sit on a rock, smell the flowers, become one with nature, follow the brook, meditate, Become one with nature, PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!Really, havent you said enuf new age crap already?????? There is ONE ROCK. Peroid, for those of Us who know what I speak of. Oppurtunity,? Yes, it is time for all of us to leave our current comfort zones and learn how to live without the dependency of technology. Period. We are lazy people who for years have became one with nature while sitting but not on a rock. I for one hope you get "tired" of preaching your new age GARBAGE soon, so we can enjoy the threads more. You make me want to throw up.

If you think this is intended to rebuke you, then you have assumed correctly. Now for the rest, feel free to flame away as I wont be stopping back by to read anymore new age trash nohow.

I wish for once and for all you would find somewhere else to sit.

-- whatever (please@aol.com), November 04, 1998.

I HAVE heard that sitting on a rock will make you feel a little boulder.

-- Faith Weaver (faith-weaver@usa.net), November 04, 1998.


Pay no attention to the Evil Little Toad with the baited breath.

He's already gone to his subterranean lair, there to vigil among the toadstools keep and caress his poisonous skin while dreaming of unspeakable things (unless Robert has been eating Aggie hors d'oeuvres and is on a "Road Trip", in which case, Gayla will soon set him straight).

-- Hardliner (searcher@internet.com), November 04, 1998.

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