piping hot showers during the apocalypse

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Have any of you guys seen this propane heated showers? Very cool. You know how good it feels after a few days of camping to take a steamin hot shower? Imagine after a few weeks! No we'll be able to do this during the apocalypse. Care to join me Blondie? Check this:

http://www.zodi.com

I've also been experimenting with using propane lanterns indoors and so far no problems with carbon monoxide, or maybe it's cause there isn't much left up there in the attic to damage. So now I'm thinkin if it will be possible to use one of those $40 heat units that hooks up to a 5 gallon propane jug and stay nice and toasty. Have you guys ever done this or is there too much carbon monoxide. I'll have a detector just in case. This is gonna be fun!

-- Jerry (NERDBRAIN@HOTMAIL.COM), November 01, 1998

Answers

Get a lot of black garden hose. Arrange in sun in a fairly flat, neat coil. Put clear plastic sheet over hose and peg down at corners with rocks. Attach one end of hose to barrel of water. Run other end down hill 10 feet or so (works good if you live near a small drop off or cliff. Put sprinkler head on hose. Fill hose with water and wait a couple of hours. Hot shower!

-- Paul Davis (davisp1953@yahoo.com), November 01, 1998.

Since I've already lived TEOTWAWKI I can assure you that getting a hot, or cold shower, will be the least of your worries.

Think how to do the laundry. Since my mother wore herself to a frazzle on a washboard, and I have watched women beat laundry by the river, I am going build a simple laundry washer. A hinge on one end of a board. A rope on the opposite end that runs up through a pulley, then down with a rock pulling from it. Make two of these, one for each foot. Upside-down steel bowls, with holes in them, fastened to the bottom of boards will squish and suck laundry in a tub of water when you walk the boards, treadmill style.

Make a crank device to squeeze out water.

-- Trying to forget but better remember (seenit@ww2.com), November 01, 1998.


I picked this tip up from another news group: TEOTWAWKI type washing machine: 5 gal plastic bucket. attach a broom stick to a flat circular colander type piece of steel. insert dirty clothes, with or without soap. Activate as though churning butter. To wring, use a bucket elevated a few inches from the ground, with holes in the bottom and press down with broom stick.

-- Bill Solorzano (notaclue@webtv.net), November 01, 1998.

Jerry "Nerdbrain", I was just wondering.... Have you ever been camping out in the middle of nowhere? Take your new "toys", a tent and a sleeping bag, and try it for 2 weeks. Then come back and tell us about how much fun it was. It might help you find out what other items you will need.

-- Gayla Dunbar (privacy@please.com), November 01, 1998.

In re: washing clothes: galvanized tub and new, clean rubber plunger with longer handle (similar in design to those sold via mailorder, but with the improvement of the longer handle). Woman on another list says she used this quite successfully while living on a boat (rainwater collection).

In re: bathing: I think a combination of Finnish and Japanese technologies are in order: a sauna and a furo.

-- Karen Cook (browsercat@hotmail.com), November 01, 1998.



Uh, Jerry...thanks, but no thanks! I think that I will probably just boil some water and add some cold water to it and do the old fashioned sponge bath routine. :-) Blondie

-- Blondie Marie (Blondie@future.net), November 01, 1998.

Gayla girl, You city folk think you're so tuff! You'll probably be freaking out when you realize they don't broadcast "All My Children" on a shortwave radio!! As for survival skills, which you are so prepared for, I don't need to prepare. I am a hunter and I live in God's country. We got mountain caves, unlimited forests, a nice clean river, and plenty of game. I will be living like a king while you're running for cover. If you manage to get out to my neck of the woods without getting lost you might be useful for one thing girlfriend, and I may just help myself to some of that!

-- Jerry (nerdbrain@hotmail.com), November 01, 1998.

Jerry, BOY, I am good for lots of things, not the least of which is filling you full of lead if you so much as TRY to touch me. :-) Lots of Texas "girls" are pretty handy with a gun. Redneck mentality you know. I doubt that you are even the same poster as the first Jerry, because if you live in the woods and are a hunter, you wouldn't be asking questions about heating units and propane jugs. So, you say you live in GOD'S country? Good. I hope you go to meet Him REAL soon!

-- Gayla Dunbar (privacy@please.com), November 01, 1998.

Jerry Nerdbrain,

I'm not going to address your illusions about the "tuffness" of city folk. Instead I'll refer you to Uncle Deedah, who I'm sure can enlighten you greatly in that area.

If you have even the slightest knowledge of how shortwave radio differs from medium wave radio or long wave radio, please share it with us all.

As for survival skills, which you, "don't need to prepare", I'll give you some valuable information. It might even save your life. YOU DON'T HAVE THE ONE YOU'LL NEED THE MOST. I promise you that if you encounter me or those that I travel with and display the attitude and behavior that you've boasted of here, you'll truly find yourself in God's Country (He owns it all, even where you'll end up).

Your repeated suggestions regarding things sexual tends to make me wonder if you don't have more than a few insecurities in that area. I'll bet that you do, "help yourself", quite often.

-- Hardliner (searcher@internet.com), November 01, 1998.


Where is "God's Country" exactly? Can it be found on a map? How about at "Find-It Map-It" At Yahooooooooo?

Inquiring minds want to know.

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 01, 1998.



I've tried living in a cave - didn't like it. I've tried living outddors for several weeks - didn't like it. I've tried catching and cooking fish/game, its okay, but I don't like doing it.

I don't have anything to prove - and I don't think my wife would want me to have a girlfriend, so I guess I'll just just have to make do being warm and dry indoors - under cover, eating leftovers and canned food, in bed (maybe under a sleeping bag or two, with a fire going....) drinking Unk's dehydrated beer.

-- Robert A. Cook, P.E. (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), November 01, 1998.


Hey Hardass,

You urban cowboy faggot types are in fer a real surprise if you think you are just goin to head out to the country to get away from that there shithole you live in. You made your bed, now you can die in it. Us citizens here in Smalltown U.S.A. are lot differnt than you asswipes. We watch out of fer the good earth that God gived us, and he watches out fer us. We all got huntin licenses and we can smell a stinkin tourist comin from 5 miles away. So if you think you'll get within a country mile of our territories, you'll get a small suprise between the eyes. "That's exactly right Sheriff, it was the damndest thing. This here city boy was squattin in them trees over yonder and I'll be damned if he didn't look just exactly like a 5-point buck!!

YEEEEHAAAAW !!!! Let the hunting season begin!!

-- Jerry (searcher@internet.com), November 01, 1998.


????

I guess I'll have to wait until downtown Kennesaw gets its second traffic light before I figure out that one. Will that qualify me as "an urban area?"

-- Robert A. Cook, P.E. (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), November 01, 1998.


Jerry you horrible brute! Please stop! You are simply terrifying me!

-- Hardliner (searcher@internet.com), November 01, 1998.

Isn't he though! Amazing that all of that knuckle dragging has not had a larger affect on his typing ability.

-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), November 01, 1998.


I knew Ted "Unibomber" K. had a roomate. Jerry you sound like a guest of another famous "Jerry". I have a feeling young women and tourist don't have to worry about you, its the local swine population that has to be nervous. Let us hear you say, "Boy you have a perty mouth"

-- Bill (bill@microsoft.com), November 02, 1998.

Really folks, we should be more considerate of Jerry. Let's try to help him.

Jerry, repeat after me: I'm not the Fig Plucker, I'm the Fig Plucker's son but I'll pluck your figs until the Fig Plucker comes.

See how easy that is! I'll bet you got it right the very first time!

-- Hardliner (searcher@internet.com), November 02, 1998.


I hate it when I can't find my keys. OH DAMN!! Jerry! Jerry! Copme here boy! It's not time for your walk yet. We have to trim your second and third digital hair first! And then I promise another half hour on the net if you're REALLY good on the leash. Though I should punish you for geting out again!!

-- C da N D (wrong@driving.not), November 02, 1998.

Oh boy....Just cruising along and here I am. I dont know....sounds to me like perhaps Jerry was an actor in a movie I remember long ago, I believe the name was Deliverance?

I betcha he likes to squeal like a piggy himself?

It warms me so much to know that there are people out here in this world with such sick mentality as that. It shall also give me great pleasure to shoootttt one who comes to my door.

-- consumer alert (private@aol.com), November 02, 1998.


How do you get a name like "Hardliner" anyway? Sounds like someone who don't take no shit from nobody. Must have been in the military. That could be even worse than Ted Kazinski!

-- Joe (PRIVACY@PLEASE.COM), November 02, 1998.

Check this out-- it was in my electric co-operative (which is strange) magazine in the mail yesterday. Hadn't heard of it until then. It's at-home power generation, being demo'ed right now.

http://www.plugpower.com/

-- Lisa (nomail@work.com), November 02, 1998.


How about the 5-gallon solar shower set-ups...? Anyone used one?

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), November 02, 1998.

I told you how to make one above Donna, weren't you listening? BTW, I am lazy, if I make a end of the world washing machine it will be attached to a wind mill.

-- Paul Davis (davisp1953@yahoo.com), November 05, 1998.

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