The role of firearms in survival is well documented. What are you going to do when you are threatened by locals who will hurt you and your family? Will you defend or will you submit and be ravaged? If you are a rural deweller are you perpared for the hoards who will think nothing of raid, pillage, steal, murder `to their ends? There is a lot to think about and survival should be important. I perceive the urban hoards to be the most immediate threat....what .they don't eat, they steal , kill, anyone will be prey.....so look out and arm aganist the hoards.Civil dsobediance wil be a joke. The y2k is real and you need to ber prepared.......Liberal bulshit will get you killed. To be armed is to be forewraned!

-- gene Williams (g.g.williams@ mindspring.com), October 20, 1998

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Hey gene

Are you a one trick pony or what? I don't remember you posting here before you started your one man "Guns for Jesus" campaign. You got anything else to say?

I'm a Second Amendment-er, but come on man, give it a rest!

-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), October 20, 1998.

Uncle,

Gene "Packin' Heat" Williams once wrote:

I am my kids MOM and a gunowner who is very concerned about safety and the y2k. Guns Saves Lives

This leads me to believe that you may be incorrect in your use of the term "man"...

(And that she may be incapable of making subjects and verbs agree in number... but hell, ain't none of us perfect.)

-- BellaVita (red@tablewine.com), October 20, 1998.

Sorry about that gene

Hey gene Are you a one trick pony or what? I don't remember you posting here before you started your one man "Guns for Jesus" campaign. You got anything else to say?

I'm a Second Amendment-er, but come on WOman, give it a rest!

Better?

PS, you do, however, sound like my kind of WOman!

-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), October 20, 1998.

Uncle,

You got 2 out of 3...

But... it's a "one [WHAT?] Guns for Jesus campaign"?

This is so roPERSONtic.

-- BellaVita (red@tablewine.com), October 20, 1998.

CRAP, CRAP, CRAP,

One more time,

Sorry about that gene Hey gene Are you a one trick pony-ess or what? I don't remember you posting here before you started your one WOman "Guns for Jesus" campaign. You got anything else to say?

I'm a Second Amendment-er, but come on WOman, give it a rest!

Better?

PS, you do, however, sound like my kind of WOman!

Better now? BTW, ain't people annoying? Makes ya wanna shoot 'em ;) hee hee. Just kidding calm down Anti guns, it is a joke. Yes I know that it is nothing to joke about, what, oh, OK, consider it taken back. Sorry. No, really, I mean it.

"Ah Mr. Morely, you make a yoke"

Katie (the farmers daughter)

-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), October 20, 1998.

Uncle Deedah, when you keep saying WOman, WOman, you remind me of Animal on the Muppets! :-)

BTW, Bella, I could read that REALLY small print. Thank-you. Now I don't have to give a grammar lesson!

-- Gayla Dunbar (privacy@please.com), October 20, 1998.

I to, am worried about "the neighbors", and am armed with an ar-15, and a ruger 10/22. I am ready to protect what little I've got, and will not hesitate to do so. break into MY house, and you will be shot. sorry to all you people that want to take everyones guns away.but the truth is,, if you do take our guns, the gangs will still have them.

-- ed (edrider007@aol.com), October 20, 1998.

Ed

Do your neighbors a favor, use a 12 gauge scattergun to fight the foe in home, that AR 15 will put stuff right through the walls, the neighbor's walls, the neighbor's head, the neighbor's back door, and finally through the neighbor's neighbor's head. It will then land in the dog dish, and give the dog lead poisoning. What a waste.

-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), October 21, 1998.

Guns are good, guns are bad. A more boring argument we have not had.

Lets move on people.

-- Bill (bill@microsoft.com), October 21, 1998.

Seems as though you all are having a lot out there pokeing flames my way. That is OK. I am a big girl and can take it. To answer the question, no I am not a "one trick pony" and I am not doing a "guns for Jesus" thing either. I have a legitimate concern and as I have a right to ask or suggest questions for thought I have chosen this place to do just that. I have been a competition shooter for many years and an instructor. People ask my advice all the time and I try to give the best answers I can find to help them be safe. I suggested a situation relating to the y2k and all I got was gibberish. I know you all can do a lot better.

-- Gene Williams (g.g.williams@mindspring.com), October 21, 1998.

Atta boy, Gene OOOOOPS

That Deedah fellow gets grumpy from time to time, best to ignore him completely when he is like that.

I'm glad to see you stick up for yourself, I knew there was a reason why I like you, yer gutsy.

-- Uncle Deedah (oncebitten@twiceshy.com), October 21, 1998.

Suppose you shoot a guy coming over your fence and he just hangs there dead. What are you supposed to do with him??

How about wounding people. They can crawl away from your property and not stink up the place. I also read once that it takes at least three other people to care for one wounded. That would reduce the potential problem makers; if they played by the rules that is. :-)

If you want to try and be nice to unwelcome visitors because you've got a problem with shooting someone dead and because you know they are probably trying just as hard as you are to feed their kids, then what about rock salt with a load size that will convince them to look elsewhere but not kill them in the process. I know the person could come back for revenge, etc. but that is still not reason enough for me to not consider using salt in the first shell. Seems like the same concept as using pepper spray but with the more positive results. Wouldn't salt delivered by 12g just carry a little more emphasis about your determination to defend?

Me.

-- Floyd Baker (fbaker@wzrd.com), October 22, 1998.

Gene, agree with you 100%. Also suggest you bury extra arms and ammo, but NOT on or close to your own property. I am preparing for a real mess, but hoping fer the best. Kentucky Bill

-- George W Berge Jr (gberge@kih.net), October 23, 1998.

Do your neighbors a favor and help them learn to prepare for Y2K....Save the ammo for the marauding non-neighbors...my goodness...maybe humans can't learn. (Horse noises)

You are as safe as the preparedness level of your neighbors...seems like effort in that area,...an hour taken from gun debates on the internet daily is in order.

signed,...(affectionately), what's-her-name, the sheet-wearer with her attractive holster covered modestly.

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), October 23, 1998.