7+- acres black dirt and small hut for for rent in NY this summer

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I have 6+- acres of black dirt land and a small farm workers house for rent this summer in New York. Rent is $4,000 from May 1 through October 14.

-- Hector (hector@wabcmail.com), January 27, 2002

Answers

Hector, thats $727.00 per month for 5.5 months-what else is happening on Mars......

-- mitch hearn (moopups@citlink.net), January 28, 2002.

Mitch, "black dirt" is muck soil. Black gold. That stuff doesn't go cheap!

-- Jennifer L. (Northern NYS) (jlance@nospammail.com), January 28, 2002.

All depends where you live. Muck or peat ground is prone to flooding, and not the best for soybeans in our corn/soybean rotation. Corn yields well, but drops ears & is prone to blowing over or a late frost. So, it is not prized ground 'here'. Also, May through mid October would be a very short growing season, and small fields like this are a pain, not worth much rent because of small size.

But if there happens to be a pickle processor nearby, this would be a gold mine. Just depemds on it's location & local conditions.

--->Paul

-- paul (ramblerplm@hotmail.com), January 28, 2002.


In New York State, down below Middletown is an area called Pine Island. It is black dirt country.I suspect this is the area where this land is. Huge onion farms fluorish there and are summer homes for many migrant workers. My sister teaches in Florida, New York and a lot of her students are children of the migrants who work the black dirt onion farms. Unfortuneately the living conditions are very sparse for these hard working families. On one occasion, her and her husband delivered Thanksgiving baskets to the families at one camp and my sister was appalled at their facilities. Just a hotplate to cook on a a couple of bare mattresses for the whole family to sleep on. Her husband said the turkey and all the trimmings would all go into one kettle on the hotplate. Sometimes at school only half the children would come as others were needed in the fields and sadly, one little boy told her that he and his brother had to take turns coming to school as they only had one good pair of shoes and clothing for school between them. My sister came to odds with her principal, who told her to give the old worn out books and leftover materials to these kids as they wouldn't be there too long. She purposely gave them the better books and bought them tablets and pencils out of her own pockets.As the school was surrounded on three sides by the black dirt farms, certain times of the year when the fields were being sprayed with pesticides, etc. the children could not use their playground and had to stay inside. Hopefully some of these conditions have improved. Just some food for thought.

-- Kate henderson (kate@sheepyvalley.com), January 28, 2002.

How about the windows and doors fit so poorly that when it snowed and the wind was blowing the snow could get to be several inches high on the window sills and around the door jams. So when that happened the teachers would go to other teachers rooms on the otherside of the school where the snow wasn't blowing in. We had to wear our coats a lot of days even with the heat going. It is hard to believe that in our land of so called plenty things like this still exist, but they do. Sally

-- (mallardhen67@hotmail.com), January 28, 2002.


I recived an unnessary rude email from Hector conserning my post about the cost of his offering; apparently a form of slavery is still alive and well in America. Hector does not understand the differance between black dirt and bottom soil; perhaps he should be back where he came from, he is not ready for life here. Hector, if you do not like this, tell me and I will put your word on this screen.

-- mitch hearn (moopups@citlink.net), January 29, 2002.

Me too Mitch. I felt it was very racist to say the least.

-- Kate henderson (kate@sheepyvalley.com), January 29, 2002.

I don't know what the guy emailed you two about but maybe it had something to do with you two giving the guy a hard time and jumping to conclusions? All the guy did was post an ad for a rental. First he got hassled over the price. But $727 a month for that is a bargain in some areas. Then he gets associated with migrant workers, poverty and suffering when all the guy did was post a simple ad.

-- Dave (something@somewhere.com), January 29, 2002.

Perhaps you 2 could reread his original message, and then read your replies. The conotations you 2 made were, I thought at least, quite rude. I would not be surprised if he reacted poorly to what would look like an insult to him.

If you wanted to speak out against migrant worker conditions, you maybe should not have aimed your remarks at this guy, who just put up a simple ad.

Without knowing what he wrote you, I am _not_ supporting his actions either. Merely, I found your comments to him in his thread to be rather rude, in & of themselves. Does that make sense?

--->Paul

-- paul (ramblerplm@hotmail.com), January 29, 2002.


Well, Paul, I did not in any way mean to offend Hector. I was just commenting about the black dirt area here in New York State that I was familiar with. In retrospect, I guess I should have put the story of my sister and the migrant workers on a separate thread. But I do feel his off the forum e-mail to me was offensive.I will let it go at that. Kate

-- Kate henderson (kate@sheepyvalley.com), January 30, 2002.


Quite often the answers posted show a definite need for more thought before the submit button is used. Most of us share the guilt.

-- charlie (charliesap@pldi.net), January 30, 2002.

Here are my so-called rude replies. I told one cry baby that the $700 month for rent including a small hut and black dirt was not excessive for property within driving distance of New York City. The other cry baby is offended by my lack of concern for the migrant workers in america. I replied to her that the mexican workers commit a huge amount of vandalism type crimes in this area and lower the quality of life for the taxpaying residents. This situation is also happening all over the us-mex. border in which americans are being harrassed by mex. immigrants. I told this lady that if the migrants in my area would spend their money on food for their families instead of on liquor for themselves to get drunk on they would have enough to eat.I should have mentioned to this lady that these migrants send their offspring to the public schools and it is my taxes that are being raised every year to pay for their education, not to mention their food stamos,job retraining, adult education and unemployment benefits in their off season. As for the rent. NY is probably different than the rest of the country. In NY we have something called school taxes and property taxes. In my area this comes to about $6,000+ for every landowner. there are parts of Long island where people in nice houses pay almost $20,000 a year in property and school taxes. So, naturally if I have to pay a huge amount in property and school taxes the rent that I will charge will be higher than the rent someone is charging in WV.

-- hector (hector@wabcmail.com), January 30, 2002.

OK folks, getting close to the time to throw everyone out of the mall.

Ken

-- Ken S. in WC TN (scharabo@aol.com), January 30, 2002.


Ken clean up this place now, before the FBI get involve. Ralph.

-- Ralph (rroces1@yahoo.com), February 02, 2002.

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