Andy,
Why don't you quit beating a dead horse and move on like most of the rest of us?

-- Observer (lots@to.observe), May 15, 2000.

Oh, the irony!

A pathetic memetic doomer holding desperatley to his or her decapitated delapidated meme and screaming "Stop looking at me!"

:) Extremely humourous...

The effects of the lies you showered upon your embarrassed family and former friends will not go away, little doomer - no matter how much you wish it. Did you prepare for this? (laughing while typing...) Idiots.

Vindicated Regards,
Andy Ray

-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), July 03, 2000

Answers

Yep have to agree...

How about Andy you begin at some point to review the utter crap spewed from folks who actually DID know better? Bashing the "little people" who relied upon, in most instances expert opinion, is really foolish at this point. Most have GOTTEN THE POINT back at say, #10.

Why not build on common ground and cite quotes from sources ALL OF US here tended to believe whatever the weighting applied. The camp of those who believed Y2k would be a fat-nothing, an absolute slam dunk of nothingness is a small campsite to say the least.

How about some quotes from fatass Peter de (I made millions)Jager? or (I am an the investment guru for one of the largest banks in the world) Ed Yardeni?

-- passerby (amazingYOUdontgetit@andy.ray), July 03, 2000.

Wait a minute, though. AndyRay has obviously been busy the last couple of days. In addition to "pathetic memetic doomer," he has added "decapitated delapidated meme" to the mix!!! Are there no limits to the Wit and Wisdom of this Wacky Wordsmith? Is a career as a rap singer in this boy's future?

-- I'm Here, I'm There (I'm Everywhere@so.beware), July 03, 2000.

passerby,

You are free to either begin your own thread or series of threads quoting whomever you wish, or to not click on the threads I begin. I will quote whom I will quote.

Vindicated Regards,
Andy Ray

-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), July 03, 2000.

Ooooh, a little edgy there Andy. Better just stick to your canned cliches; your Andy-speak.

-- (nemesis@awol.com), July 03, 2000.

In other words, the Y2K virus has infected all the vital organs of our global body. It must be removed from all of them. A failure in any one system could corrupt other systems. Most obvious would be a serious disruption in the supply of electricity. The Year 2000 Problem will be a non-event only if the global network is fixed 100%. Undoubtedly, much will be fixed in time. But there is no doubt that some significant fraction will not be ready in time. Indeed, most so-called embedded microchip systems will be stress tested for the first time under real world conditions starting at midnight on New Year's Eve 2000. There are billions of these mini- computers embedded in appliances, elevators, security systems, processing and manufacturing plants, medical devices, and numerous other vital applications. Most are probably not date-sensitive. But many are and could seriously disrupt vital economic activities and create serious safety hazards.

Hearing on Mandating Year-2000 Disclosures for Publicly-Traded Companies Prepared Testimony of Dr. Edward Yardeni Chief Economist Deutsche Morgan Grenfell 10:00 a.m., Tuesday, November 4, 1997

Oh btw, Yardeni has wiped his website, yardeni.com clean of the evidence. Gee wonder why? Instead of learning from his CHARTS, like he does with most everything else, Mr. Economic Meme, decided it best to sanitize the dungheap which was his Y2k website.

Where is your responsibility Edward Yardeni? Did you LIE in front of the United States Congress, or were you just confused that it ALL had to be fixed, this massive integrated COMPUTER as you spewed? Course YOu were the expert so this gave you license to spew utter BullCockey?

Alerting family members of what one thinks is an issue of importance is FAR DIFFERENT than a major BANKER sitting in fron of Congress and basically saying WE ARE F*CKED. In fact how is the average person at fault if they pass this info from this BANKER onto their friends and family? They were wrong to double-check, but can one blame them to rely on folks they do every freaking day in other areas of their lives????????

-- passerby (amazing@this.board), July 03, 2000.

The doomzies had their chance on the thread "Yourdon forum is NOT "cult-like"!!!. When asked what they thought of the Yardeni downgrade, they could NOT accept that it was even POSSIBLE.

The same thing happened with DeJager. When he published "y2k brokenback" the doomers lost their goldenboy spokesman....so what did they do? Turned on him. Same thing they did to ANYONE that left the MemeCult.

Funny/Sad.

-- :-) (:-(@:-0.:-)), July 03, 2000.

And why did anyone believe that Ed Yardeni, an economist by profession, knew or does know anything about the power business? Or software and what would or wouldn't have to be done to fix it?

Is it because he has "Doctor" in front of his name? Kinda like Dr Gordon?

If there's one lesson that should have been learned from Y2K it's that false authority syndrome will always get us into trouble. Experts are those who work in their fields every day regardless of their level of education. Until we learn to listen to real experts and not the false authorities we are doomed to repeat these types of erros again.

-- Jim Cooke (JJCooke@yahoo.com), July 04, 2000.

By the way, :-) (:-(@:-0.:-)), Ed Yardeni did not reduce his estimates on the odds of recession in March, 1999. Many optimists thought he had at that time, based on a reporter's misreading of his material. See this thread from March, 1999...

Ed Yardeni Still at 70%

and this one from November...

Dr. Yardeni's "Final Answer" (full text - non PDF version)

Jim, Ed Yardeni was forecasting a recession, not a collapse of society because of no electricity. Don't automatically assume that people who had concerns about y2k were worried only about electricity. Another major concern was that businesses might not be able to get an adequate supply of needed parts or materials from vendors here or abroad.

It wasn't enough for a business to be y2k ready. Its suppliers needed to be ready, too.

-- Just (in@time.deliveries), July 04, 2000.

After a while ya gotta feel sorry for Andy Ray.What pathology does he suffer from that he need to constantly post his neener- neener "Vindicated" posts.He's become his own ironic "neener-neener meme.

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), July 05, 2000.

Good comments by passerby and JJ.

"Just", your statement "It wasn't enough for a business to be y2k ready. Its suppliers needed to be ready, too." is a repeat of one of the many y2k doom battlecries we heard prior to the y2k fizzle. It was highly exagerated then, and worth much less post y2k. "Ready" was never that hard to achieve, since we DIDN'T have to be 100% "ready".

Does anyone know of ONE SINGLE SUPPLIER IN THE US WHO BIT THE DUST DUE TO Y2K FAILURES?

I rest my case. :)

-- FactFinder (FactFinder@bzn.com), July 06, 2000.

Even if everyone is ready on time, it won't matter because nobody else will be.

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), July 06, 2000.