Ok enough already--unwed FATHERS, fer crying out loud. Lets have some lively discussion about the men who father children who are not married, not committed and not held responcible. Exactly how many children can a man father compaired to how many children can a woman bear? When it comes to parenthood the only REAL responcible person identified in most discussions, professional or otherwise is the mom. Bad mom, unfettered unprotected sexual irresponcible mom. What is wrong with this picture?

-- John Q (hmmmmm@home.com), April 05, 2000

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John Q:

Lets have some lively discussion about the men who father children who are not married

What is wrong with this? In my experience, most children aren't married. Sorry, I have been on the road and I am being pedantic.

Best wishes,,,,

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), April 05, 2000.

Welcome back, Z.

-- FutureShock (gray@matter.think), April 05, 2000.

Yup.. it's all those dirty, no good for nothing guys that won't take responcibility for their own bodies, that keep sticking their dicks into what?... ever hear that old saying.. it takes two to tangle? :-)

As an aside... just try being one of those low life fathers with custody of his children.... just try to get welfare, Wic, or heaven forbid !!!!.... child support from that angel... Mom.....

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 05, 2000.

Netghost, it really depends on why the mother is not present. If her children were unfairly taken away from her, or if she bailed out. In the latter case, she SHOULD definitely be held financially responsible.

No one should want to get caught in the welfare trap. It's a bad thing and it's hard to get out. You'd be better off working at wal- mart.

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), April 05, 2000.

cin looo... are you stalking me? :-)

Turn your argument around... or better yet, try to look at it without laying blame... shifts happen...

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 05, 2000.

Am I stalking you?

Delusions of grandeur?

You're weird NG.

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), April 05, 2000.

Been a while since I posted, but this one evokes a response. Young men and women are hormone driven. They do really stupid things like engage in sex. Sex, "protected" or in some windows, "unprotected", results in the introduction of another human being into the paradigm: and that paradigm includes all of us.

Now, for those of us in the twilight of limbic behavior, it's easy to make judgements.We stand a snowball's chance in hell of entering into this equation. But for those of you who remain subject to primitive brain stem behaviours, heads up, kiddies. The products of your, and your peers, impulsive and physiologically programmed acts are going to be around for a while unless you terminate them with extreme prejudice. So you'd better take a lesson from our f*** ups and begin to make plans to adjust for human error. If they can do it in the nuclear industry I believe you mental giants can accomodate errors involving reproductive behavior in the general population.

Age does have an advantage: Observations are made on the basis of an extended period of objective observation, so don't take offense, take heed.

-- little wifey (littlewifey@home.com), April 05, 2000.

cin... last week I responded to one of your posts and you accused me of stalking you.... just makeing a joke this time :-)

Now. about my point?

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 05, 2000.

little wifey.... are you trying to tell the guys and gals, respectively, to keep their dicks in their pants and their legs crossed?

Sorry... life doesn't work that way, thank God, or the human race would have died out long ago.... :-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 05, 2000.

With abortion being most-likely the number one method of birth control in this country, I'd say it's a good idea to advodate abstinence. Who in their right minds would disagree with that.

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), April 05, 2000.

cin... Horse crap !!!.. I'd love to see the stats you got that from :-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 05, 2000.

::sigh::

Could you really be this hopeless and deluded?

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), April 05, 2000.

You're right cin, No one is useing birth control pills, condoms, or any of the other ways to prevent pregnancy... same as all the unwed parents are only women, all men are nothing but a dick connected to a body, women never want to have sex... men force them !!!!

Let me guess... your favorite method of birth control is an asprin held firmly between your knees :-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 05, 2000.

Netghost...FO!

=)

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), April 05, 2000.

Well... you certainly won that argument... thanx for all your well thought out, intelegent coments.. you are a whizzzz :-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 05, 2000.

Netghost, no way on God's green earth are his daughters and sons going to keep their zippers zipped and their panties on.He's been admonishing us about that for quite a while, and HE's the programmer who said it is not good for man to be alone, so I don't think He is too harsh on that aspect of humanity . I'm saying that when the panties drop and the zippers slide and consequences become apparent, it's an act of humanity on all our parts to welcome the brother or sister who rides into this world on the tides of passion:will-he(or she)-nill-he. It would be a sad, dull and colorless world if it weren't for sexual passion. All of us share in its energy and consequences and marvelous effects. The focus of sex, however, happens to be the introduction into our midst of another eternal being-and we young and old take a part in the programming of that person. God gave youth the powers of the flesh to celebrate that aspect of creation. Not everyone uses those powers wisely. It falls to those with wisdom and understanding to guard-and guide-the innocents arriving on the scene if their parents cannot do so. How they-the newcomers- got here isn't relevant. They're ours-we're all the crew of the Narrenschaft.

-- little wifey (littlewifey@home.com), April 05, 2000.

little wifey..... EXELLENT !!!!!!!!!!!!

I wish I could write like that.... no blame... no PC.... just wisdom...

My cyber-hat is off to you :-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 05, 2000.

Netghost....tsk tsk tsk.

Persons who are referring to the IQ of others, really should be able to spell the word intelligence. Wouldn't you say?

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), April 05, 2000.

cin..... what does spelling, or for that matter IQ have to do with wisdom?... spell checkers are free and easy to down load.... what will be your next personal attack?.... or do you have a point? :-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 05, 2000.

Gawd NG, personal attack? You are so lame. You started this shit. What a baby you are. Quit yer snivelin!

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), April 06, 2000.

:sigh::

Could you really be this hopeless and deluded?

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), April 05, 2000.

Netghost...FO!

=)

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), April 05, 2000.

Netghost....tsk tsk tsk.

Persons who are referring to the IQ of others, really should be able to spell the word intelligence. Wouldn't you say?

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), April 05, 2000.

Gawd NG, personal attack? You are so lame. You started this shit. What a baby you are. Quit yer snivelin!

I stand corrected :-)

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), April 06, 2000.

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 06, 2000.

Now cin..... do you have a point?.... or are you just flapping your jaw? :-)

I didn't think so....

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 06, 2000.

Stop it. Stop it. This skit is getting too silly.....

Just wanted to say welcome back to LittleWifey-you said you had not posted in awhile-things are getting interesting here again!

-- FutureShock (gray@matter.think), April 06, 2000.

You know NG...for all the posting you do, you never really have anything of much importance to say. It's mostly copy/pasting.

Do you actually have a personality of your own? Or is it just this annoying "thing"?

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), April 06, 2000.

You know cin... I do very little posting... and only copy/paste others words to respond to them... confuse?.... again? :-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 06, 2000.

Oh well.. cin, keep your hate of men close to your chest.. I'm sure it will keep you warm/cold for the rest of your life.... enjoy :-)

Nite...

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 06, 2000.

so...was that a counter-attack then?

I see you are just trying to provoke me into argument. It's cool. But I almost feel bad beating up on a weak little guy like yourself.

And I do NOT hate men. I can think of a few things I need a guy for...ok a couple. =)

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), April 06, 2000.

<<< Passing cin a whirlpool, therefore no need for 'men'....

Net, a little 'testy' tonite? Get it...????

No, didnt figure you would.....lol.

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), April 06, 2000.

Cin:

Netghost has the facts on his side on this one. Sterilization [of either male or female] is actually the most popular method of birth control in the U.S., with oral contraceptives coming in second and condoms coming in third. Although the number of abortions per year DOES seem high [1.6 million in 1991], more than 57.4 million women are in their reproductive years, and at least 92% of those use some form of contraception.

More data is available here

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), April 06, 2000.

Actually Anita, I wasn't being literal. But thanks for pointing that out. =)

Consumer, lolol thanks =0)

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), April 06, 2000.

Now that's a good way to CYA cin... you said something really stupid, then claim you weren't being literal.. sheesh !!!!

consumer, I got it. I just wonder what cin's excuse is :-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 06, 2000.

Could it be that you're just too stupid to get it?

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), April 06, 2000.

cin.... you need to work on your reading and comprehension skills. they're as bad as your grasp of the real world, and that's BAD !!!! :-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 06, 2000.

Netghost...I think you are in love with the sound of your own voice. You make no sense; talk much and say particularly little. Oh little man! ::sigh::

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), April 06, 2000.

ME?.... in love with my own voice?.... LMAO !!!!!!!

Active Contributors cinlooo@aol.com (235)

I'm not even on the list... but that fits right in with the rest of your twisted view of life :-)

BTW... I'm done with you... I don't know if you were born a bitch, or studied really hard to be a bitch... congratulations... you are a success :-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 06, 2000.

Okay ANNOY-BOY.

Whatever you say (wink) =)

-- cin (cinloo@aol.corn), April 06, 2000.

Hey,

What the heck, studied, born, dont matter WE ARE WOMEN and dont much matter HOW we got to be bitches.....now does it?????

Just that we ARE...and we RULE.....

looking for the pool.....

{{{{consumer

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), April 07, 2000.

Netghost:

You said: "I'm not even on the list..." Um...but you are...ng@no.yr (97). However, just to be fair, if anyone seems to post to simply hear their own voice, I'd have to confess to being guilty at (300). That figure doesn't even INCLUDE the posts I've made using this new e- mail address.

Life's a bit too short to bicker over such little things, though, dontcha think? I'm looking for input from meat-grinders over on the bestiality thread, Netghost. [grin] Of course, based on what you've stated on that thread already, I don't think you fall into the oldway thinking of which I have questions, but guys talk, and maybe you can shed some light based on discussions in the locker room?

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), April 07, 2000.

Anita, you said,

"and maybe you can shed some light based on discussions in the locker room? "

What specifically do you want to know?

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), April 07, 2000.

Hi, Frank.

I asked the question on the thread which asks Mr. Decker if folks had sex with their pets in the olden days [or something to that effect.] I don't want to repeat the question here, as it involves expectations of sexuality. Not everyone feels comfortable discussing such topics.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), April 07, 2000.

Anita,

I know the thread you mean, but didn't find it in the "new answers" section. Am too lazy at present to dig through all the other areas, so guess I can't help out.

You're probably not missing much though, as I can't say I'm "into" any esoterica.

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), April 07, 2000.

Frank, I hope I cleared up the small misundrestanding? :-)

Anita, I'm not sure I know you well enough to answer your Q's... locker room or not :-) I was really supprised at how many post I had on this forum... guess I really am a motor mouth...3rd class :-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), April 07, 2000.

Netghost,

About the BBS? Yes, although there aren't too many Franks around. (But oddly enough there appears to be a second one on this forum.)

Regards,

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), April 08, 2000.