On a previous thread, the hawkster made some comments about global warming etc. He said:

"To tell you the truth, it isn't the sea level or extreme weather that I'm worried about, it's the increasing cancer rates at lower age levels. We're starting to see lots of people dying of cancer in their 40's and 50's because they have been living near freeways and factories breathing poisonous gases their whole life."

Maybe you have been living near a freeway too long, and it's caused brain damage. You seem to be so concerned about people, but the way you present yourself I doubt you have concern for anyone else but yourself. You are not only an authority on airliners, global warming etc, but now you are a medical expert!

You also seem to think that industrialisation is bad. Why don't you pack your bags and head off to a third world country for a while and see how you go. I would think that more people there have health problems from pollution due to cooking on open fires inside their huts. Industrialisation would help them.

I doubt that anyone in their right mind would take you seriously with the outlandish things you come up with...

-- Mr. Sane (hhh@home.com), March 28, 2000

Answers

Hawk IS a mistake!

-- Ra (tion@l.1), March 28, 2000.

Hey, kiss my ass fuckwad!

ROTFLMAO!!! :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 28, 2000.

Sane..You sound just like one of the "culprits" Hawk is
talking about complete with the debunker mentality.
"debunk everything that you can't get your brain around"
seems to be the objective of the x bunk crowd. Grow it up a bit eh!!

-- bilko (sgt@arms.net), March 28, 2000.

I'm not entirely convinced that Hawk is a person at all. He sounds like a demented version of the Eliza program -- I think it was originally called Perry, an AI paranoid. See, you create a database of generally paranoid positions about everything, triggered by keywords relating to almost anything. On any issue, does anyone here ever need to be curious about where the "Hawk" program will stand?

On the one hand, the programming is fairly sophisticated, often able to spout extensive nonsense, and to respond to reasonable replies with more than pure non sequiturs. On the other hand, the mindless and content-free profanity should probably be regarded as a bug, if not simple programmer laziness. Or maybe it's the default if mockery lacks a keyword.

One thing in its favor, though. The "Hawk" program managed to make even Will Continue look sentient occasionally.

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), March 28, 2000.

Haven't seen anything about freeways but the reality is that younger and younger people ARE getting cancer. Suggest the smart asses do a seriousn search. Try endcrine disruptors for a new world of cancer, intersex babies and other not very nice things.

Todd

-- Todd Detzel (detzel@jps.net), March 28, 2000.

Hawk, I believe you left your fingerprints on this post:

***I wonder what this world would be like if we did not have teachers! Thanks teacher, I learned something from you today, and that is: When you teach an ungrateful slacker bitch a thing or two, they will usually remain one. ROTFLMAO!

-- studious student (studiousstudent@studiousoneee.xcom), March 28, 2000.***

Nice try though, AH.

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), March 28, 2000.

Thanks Todd, finally an intelligent person. These trolls aren't interested in any serious discussion, they're just baiting us like they always have. Ra and Mr. Insane probably just got bored shooting boogers at each other. Admit it, you guys would be bored out of your shit-stained shorts if it wasn't for me livening things up around here.

Hey Flint, you can kiss my ass too! :-) LOL!!!

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 28, 2000.

I didn't post that you fucking worthless cunt! Quit making false accusations or I'm going to stop by Long Beach and fuck you senseless.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 28, 2000.

Todd, I wasn't disputing the opinion that cancer rates are increasing, only that hawk/dork had made the statement that IT WAS BECAUSE they have been living near freeways and factories breathing poisonous gases their whole life.

-- Mr. Sane (hhh@home.com), March 28, 2000.

Hey pussy boy, dont forget to stop and see me on your way to Long Beach. Never seen a 63, 230-lbs. detective and bounty hunter disguised as a 56, 135-lbs. red-assed transvestite. Of course we both know you are just a punk and will hide behind your keyboard.

-- Ra (tion@l.1), March 28, 2000.

Flint, that was Too Much! A paranoid, demented version of Eliza, indeed!!!

I laughed so much that I almost fell out of my chair.

One thing that keeps me addicted to this forum is the wit and spirited disagreement of the participants.

It would be interesting, though, to have some of you "old timers" speculate on what Trolls are really Who in disguise. I haven't been around long enough to be able to discern such things with any degree of accuracy.

-- Flash (flash@flash.hq), March 28, 2000.

Aaaah, Ra my good buddy, I'm definitely coming to visit you down there in Newport. BTW, that's 240, not 230. :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 28, 2000.

Whatever happened to Dancr, anyway? ahem

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), March 28, 2000.

You put on 10 pounds? You forget not to swallow?

-- Ra (tion@l.1), March 28, 2000.

Ya know Hawk, you really should clean up your language. What would your mother think if she heard you addressing a lady the way you do?

Pretty disgusting if you ask me (which, of course, you didn't)

BTW, it's just as emphatic to say "d*mn" as "FUCKWAD" online IMHO.

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), March 28, 2000.

Hawk, you said, "These trolls aren't interested in any serious discussion, they're just baiting us like they always have."

They're just baiting us? ROTFLMAO!

Regarding the more serious topic, I don't dispute that exposure to air pollutants is a risk factor for cancer. But I would suspect our degraded food supply as a much stronger risk factor. For instance, Americans consume an average of 150 pounds of sugar per year.

-- David L (bumpkin@dnet.net), March 28, 2000.

>> He sounds like a demented version of the Eliza program -- I think it was originally called Perry, an AI paranoid. <<

Ah, yes! Perry! Flint, you are a scholar and a gentleman, and a fine judge of wine, women, and AI programs.

I myself have entered the lists of AI inanity. Lo, these many years ago, I wrote an AI program similar to Racter (another golden oldie of AI), called CLAUDE. I still get postcards about it. It is obtainable through the web, in an archive of such dusty, long-forgotten arcana. You can find a link to said CLAUDE at:

http://www.basicguru.com/mclaughlin

Sorry for the cold link. No time to look up the appropriate HTML for a hot link.

-- Brian MCLaughlin (brianm@ims.com), March 28, 2000.

Someone,

Are you saying you don't like having an "uncensored" forum??? Do you mean that you think people should treat each other with respect? Hmmm, that's interesting. I agree with you, but unfortunately, we are a very small minority. Most of the people on this forum like the fact that they can verbally abuse each other, and make derogatory insults.

David L.,

You don't think that Mr. Insane was trolling when he started this thread to bait me?? Then why didn't he just continue the conversation on the original thread, instead of starting an entire new one using my name in the title? Because he likes fucking with me, that's why. But that's okay, I'm having a lot of fun with these retards. LOL!! :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 28, 2000.

Link

~*~

-- (No@hard.feelings.), March 28, 2000.

Hawk,

Frank is a gentleman. He is being gallant, and he does it well. Thank you Frank =o).

Honestly Hawk, all you're ever going to attract with that mouth and attitude is trailer trashy sleezy ho's that hang out in scuzzy bars and truck stops. Unless maybe that's your style. No self-respecting woman would ever allow herself to be treated or spoken to in such a way.

Just trying to be helpful, of course. =) {smirk}

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), March 28, 2000.

cin,

I know. I don't date any women unless they are self respecting, and I don't need to talk to them the way I talk to people here. Must be something about people who spend a lot of time on the internet, but I've never seen so many rude insensitive people as on this forum. I'm merely giving them a taste of their own medicine. I've never been rude to anyone without first being offended or provoked by them first. I think you were way off-base to accuse me of posting something that someone else posted, and you really should apologize.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 28, 2000.

Funny, Hawk never swears on the OTHER forum.

-- 007 (spy@t.large), March 28, 2000.

Cin...

Dancr occasionally posts on EZBOARD. Maybe someone who can post there should invite her over here.

-- Flash (flash@flash.hq), March 28, 2000.

I'm sorry Hawk. Can we have make-up sex? =)

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), March 28, 2000.

Hawk makes Ladylogic appear sane, logical and sweet.

Careful people, don't push him too much.

-- Dr. Spock (retired@home.now), March 28, 2000.

Thanks cin, I'm sorry I said what I said. Please don't draw conclusions about me by the way I react to antagonists, I'm just reflecting their own insensitivity. Take this thread for example. Do you think the comment that Mr. Insane has quoted from me on the other thread deserves this kind of attack, implying that I have brain damage? Why did he start a whole new thread just to mock me? This is the reason that many people prefer the new forum. Call it censorship if you like, but there is no place for this kind of behavior in a civilized society. Can you imagine what would happen out in the real world if everyone walking down the street or having a conversation told other people that they thought their ideas suggested brain damage?

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 28, 2000.

How in the hell can anyone with enough intelligence to be online, have brain damage?

cin, meet Hawk. Hawk, meet cin. I happen to think that cin is one of the most beautiful, intelligent posters on the face of this earth, and I hope you two will be happy together.

~*~

-- (trying @to facilitate.two lovers.), March 28, 2000.

LOLOL Laura! You're crackin me up =P

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), March 28, 2000.

Hawk-

Uncensored or not you're way out of line. What kind of man would say what you said to Cin? I found it disgusting.

Why don't we post that statement to Cin on EY's board? If Flint was banned for what he posted on another board surely you would be banned for posting this. How could you think that ANYONE would believe it possible to have a "serious discussion" with you? How could you think that anyone would want to?

After that comment I don't even feel sorry for you anymore.

-- Debra (takeitto@ey'sboard.com), March 28, 2000.

Deb, take ye to a convent.

-- (tired@of your.stupidity), March 28, 2000.

Debra, you are right about hawk being way out of line, then you asked what sort of a man would say that.

I don't think he is a man, certainly not from the way he normally conducts himself. Maybe a high school computer nerd....

-- Mr. Sane (hhh@home.com), March 28, 2000.

"I don't think he is a man, certainly not from the way he normally conducts himself."

Yeah, you're a real man too Mr. Insane. Instead of posting an intelligent reply to my comments on the other thread, or even offering a legitimate debate, you start a whole new thread with the single intention of mocking me. You're not a man at all, you're just a spineless coward jerkoff.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 29, 2000.

So hey...How about those Lakers

-- cin (cinlooo@aol.corn), March 29, 2000.

hawk, i did post a number of times on the other thread, but you made so many ridiculous statements that i felt compelled to make an example of one.

As for legitimate debate,don't make me laugh, the only debate you seem to be capable of is masdebate.

-- Mr. Sane (hhh@home.com), March 29, 2000.

Can we PLEASE cut the crap here! If you guys want to fight, do it via e-mail. This is a PUBLIC forum.

Don't make me go to the archive, and post how silly both of you are!!!!!!!!!!

-- 007 (spy@t.large), March 29, 2000.

Careful Laura, you and cin are starting to look like the same poster..

I'm sorry Hawk. Can we have make-up sex? =) :-)

How you doing? ;-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), March 29, 2000.

Thanks cin, I'm sorry I said what I said. Please don't draw conclusions about me by the way I react to antagonists, I'm just reflecting their own insensitivity.

Horseshit Hawky once again blames his own churlishness on others. To wit his own words:

Hey, kiss my ass fuckwad!

I didn't post that you fucking worthless cunt!

Why did he start a whole new thread just to mock me?

Why indeed? You do such a fine job of it yourself one wonders why you should require any help.

Hugs and smooches,

6'5", 235 (minus 10 pounds for my pecker, so call it deuce and a quarter)

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), March 29, 2000.

Netghost, Laura said she's not cinlooo, and you know Laura would never lie.

-- (untitled@to:...), March 29, 2000.

I'm well aware of that :-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), March 29, 2000.

Mr. Insane,

Hope you don't mind, I took the liberty of copying your replies from the other thread, just so that everyone else could see. Geee, you weren't trying to conceal these by starting a new thread, were you??? It would have been a shame for everyone to miss your intelligent responses! :-)

---

Hawk said:

"....If I am right, but global warming is still ignored, then we're ALL doomed."

You are probably wrong on 2 accounts there Hawky.

1) You are never right

2) If global warming is part of the earth's natural climate cycles, how are we all doomed?? Surely it has happened before, so why are you here? Even if global warming is being caused by greenhouse gases, steps are already being taken to reduce emissions.

-- Mr. Sane (hhh@home.com), March 27, 2000.

---

This is what hawk said in his latest piece of crap:

"that's the beauty of Global Warming. No matter what happens, we're not ALL doomed." Oh, you know this for a fact? How do you know that this isn't what killed the dinosaurs? Humans are a lot more sensitive to climactic changes than most other species.

You really are a little child. Isn't cooling more likely to affect reptiles? From what I've seen, dinosaurs were flourishing in times of higher average temperatures than what we have now. Anyway it is pretty well accepted that a catastrophic event caused the demise of dinosaurs. Mammals for some reason carried on.

Why are humans a lot more sensitive to climatic change than most other species?? I haven't noticed many other species whose individuals have engineering and science degrees. Give us humans more credit than that for god's sake.

Or maybe you aren't human? In fact what planet are you from?

-- Mr. Sane (hhh@home.com), March 27, 2000.

---

Hawk, you complete and utter fool, where did 200 degrees come from???? Out of your ass?

I was trying to say that the human race has the capability to come up with viable solutions to adapt to global warming.

You are talking about something else with this 200 degree scenario. But that's ok, it's about average for you to post completely ridiculous shit.

-- Mr. Sane (hhh@home.com), March 28, 2000.

---

Then of course you made some more very lovely comments on this thread, including this one...

"I don't think he is a man, certainly not from the way he normally conducts himself."

Who do you think you're fooling jerkoff?? You must have been looking in the mirror when you said that. Anyone with half a brain can see that you're nothing but an antagonistic shitwad!

ROTFLMAO!! :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 29, 2000.

Hey Uncle Dildo, kiss my sphincter, you loony piece of trailer trash horseshit!!

You're right, when you take off that strap on dildo that you wear, you really only weigh 225 lbs.

LOL!!!!!!!!! :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 29, 2000.

Hey Horseshit Hawky, Isn't it way past your bedtime!

-- Mr. Sane (hhh@home.com), March 29, 2000.

What's the matter Insane imbecile, this cute little thread isn't so fun anymore now that people can see what a lying little fuck you are??

No, I think it's your bedtime, you might miss the school bus that takes you to your 2nd grade classes. Run along now little pissant! :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 29, 2000.

Hey Hawk,

Don't fuck with my favorite Uncle. You can go ahead and fuck with Mr. (In)Sane all that you want. After all, most of us doomers have had a round or 2 with this ..... (fill in the blank).

But Unc, come on now...

I've never had a problem with you, Hawk, but if you continue to attack my favorite uncle, well, you know..........

-- 007 (spy@t.large), March 29, 2000.

tired-

I thought I was at a convent.

-- Debra (don't@botherme.com), March 29, 2000.

007,

Your "favorite Uncle" has been acting like a complete asshole the last few weeks, jumping into disputes between me and some of these little dipshit punks that are trolling this forum. He has decided to take sides with these rude offenders and antagonists, even though I never personally addressed him until after he insulted me.

Take a closer look at this thread for example. Immediately upon entering this discussion, he calls me "Horseshit Hawky", even though I had never addressed him.

You really shouldn't let your personal bias distort your perception of what is really happening here. If he stays the fuck away from me I won't bother him, but if he wants to fuck around, he's going to get fucked with. An eye for an eye, it's as simple as that.

I can certainly appreciate your concern, but you may want to talk to Deedah about that. :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 29, 2000.

Hey, you Americans stay the fuck out of our bidness, sure, Hitler is wiping up the face of Europe, but you should mind your own bidness.

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), March 29, 2000.

As usual Hawk, you got it all wrong. On this forum YOU are the TROLL. Take your act back to the EZ board where they cut your balls off so you could sing like the good little soprano that you are. Here, the sysop will allow you to squeak away unfettered and provide us with some much-needed entertainment. Nobody cares that you cant get it up so get over it.

-- Ra (tion@l.1), March 29, 2000.

Double H said the following:

"What's the matter Insane imbecile, this cute little thread isn't so fun anymore now that people can see what a lying little fuck you are??"

A big statement yet again, where have i lied? Tell me please and for all those who enjoy a good laugh at your expense.

-- Mr. Sane (hh@home.com), March 29, 2000.

IMHO, Hawk and Uncle Deedah are the two most disgusting, foul- mouthed, ill-tempered people in this forum.

-- (my@two.cents too), March 29, 2000.

Mr Sane,

You are too sane to be talking to trash. If you get too close, you might catch some of their nasty germs.

We need to get out of this thread NOW! Before we catch an STD from one of them!!

-- (my@two.cents too), March 29, 2000.

And I give a shit what you think because.....?

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), March 29, 2000.

Wow, Now this is some kinda thread. Guess that's what happens when you leave those lonely farmhands alone with the lifestock too long....not a pretty site....

-- FactFinder (FactFinder@bzn.com), March 29, 2000.

FactFinder, you said,

".not a pretty site."

LOL, Thx,

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), March 30, 2000.

Now how can I the rudest, shortest, quik witted one resist...(ready cin, watch here...)

HAWK, ARE YOU 'EVER' GONNA ANSWER ME, DO YOU STILL DO THE GERBILS?

XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), March 30, 2000.

Consumer, the gerbils told Hawk to come back when he 'grows up'.

-- Ra (tion@l.1), March 30, 2000.

Your "favorite Uncle" has been acting like a complete asshole the last few weeks

Acting? Who's acting? It's the real deal HH.

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), March 30, 2000.

UNCLE!! why do YOU keep giving constructive critisisms to HAWK? wouldn't it BE easier to teach an EARTHWORM to jUmP through hoops??

Hawk has NO self-esteem and YOU THREATEN what he doesn't have! bignasty words ARE his shield AND weapons.

YOU HAVE REACHED THE LAST PAGE OF THE INTERNET

now GO play outside AND enjoy life!

-- ePIphANy (hello@anyone.home), March 30, 2000.

You are too cool, ephiphany.

I love your html, and I too think unc should go play "outside" (outside the internet.)

-- (love@html.edu), March 30, 2000.

Epiph,

Hawk is fun to mess with, no worries mate! It's all a game, as is life.

and to you other one,

I care less about what anon cowards think than I care about what Hawk thinks. At least Hawk, for all of his faults, has the guts to post his handle to his words, unlike you, coward.

Have a nice life timidly lurking in the shadow of those of us who use a name, loser.

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), March 30, 2000.

Lol Unc!!

Yes Epiphany, you "DiETeR" wannabee, you don't have the integrity it takes, you're just another insane cowardly asshole. :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 31, 2000.

Hey Mr. Insane,

I think you're right, I do make big statements! If HTML was a little better I might try to make even bigger ones. I make big faces too, see?...

:-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 31, 2000.

HH,

You still didn't answer my question, where did I lie???

-- Mr. Sane (hhh@home.com), March 31, 2000.

UNCLE, could you please TELL Hawk that this IS my real handle!? IT IS even more real than his because IT is mine!

Did you hear about the new sushi bar that caters exclusively to lawyers?

It's called, Sosumi.

-- ePIphaNy (hello@anyone.home), March 31, 2000.

Ephiphany, you're starting to sound as boring as Uncle Deedah and Hawk.

All three 'o ya'll need to go out and play in traffic.

-- (love@html.edu), March 31, 2000.

Odd- I sold some Viagra™ to a small pimple faced man who told me "call me 'hawk' please". He said he needed it for the "hamster dance" (I don't know what that means, and I'm not sure I want to)

This little guy was SOOOoooo excited about taking the stuff, he popped a few right then and there! I told him "you better get home right away....you might be embarrassed to be in public when that stuff kicks in!" (he mumbled something about not being worried, he had his walnut shell athletic supporter on)

Well, to my astonishment, this young man started to grow taller and taller....RIGHT THERE IN THE STORE!

I exclaimed, "That drug is only supposed to affect the penis!"

Then it hit me.

-- Pharmacist (pharmacy@drug-store.comedy), March 31, 2000.

Pharmacist

That is priceless!!!! Have not had a good belly laugh in a while and that little ditty did the trick.

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), March 31, 2000.

LOL Pharmacist. Your story was very believable until the part about the walnut shell cup. Try to tone down the exaggerations in the future.

-- Ra (tion@l.1), March 31, 2000.

perhaps "pistachio half-shell" would have been more truthful?

I will try not to make such errors in the future!

-- Pharmacist (dispensing@humor.n.drugs), April 02, 2000.

hah hah hah, Laughing loudly "pharmicist"!

-- Jocqular Joe (lol@t.this), August 26, 2000.

A thread from 5 months ago?? Lol, the trolls are getting desperate!

-- (get.creative@mr.insane), August 26, 2000.

DAMN!

I thought this was going to be an update on the big fight with Andy!

But NOOOOO, it's OLD NEWS...

Hummm, speaking of warming, what was that about that lake up north, at 0,0 ???...???

<:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), August 26, 2000.

He sounds like a demented version of the Eliza program

Interesting, Flint. I ran a BASIC version of Eliza back in the late 80s for fun (I copied it from a book). Eliza was triggered by key words and had a relatively large database of replies - not all of them made sense.

-- aqua (aqu@fin.a), August 26, 2000.

Ya didn't spell Hawk with a capital "H". Respect where due, please.

-- Hawk Fan (Where's@the.real.Hawk?), August 26, 2000.