Great Y2K/Martial Law info

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It's here and there is tons of data. Seems to take awhile to load though.

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Realm/9485/index.html#y2k

-- wide awake (preparing@now.com), November 13, 1999

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Just went there. Man is there a ton of data. Now...watch all the FBI agents come and say its just a bunch of kooky bs. Take note of who these pigs are. They monitor all these sites and when one starts unzipping the Bureau fly, so to say, these monsters start bagging on it.

-- Yeah. (cool@site.com), November 13, 1999.

I can't believe you wackos are still talking about y2k! It's over! Get a life people.

-- i am (laughing@you.com), November 13, 1999.

Now I love this kind of NWO paranoia,but the link;"Tanks in Texas - alot of TANKS, with no markings" takes you to a TB2000 thread listing a VERY unverified rumor as proof.This website is right out of the weekly world news.And I'm a paranoid feces eating doomer for goodness sakes!This acclomplishes nothing except supply the pollyanna crowd with more "all y2k doomers wear tinfoil hats"type of ammunition.

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), November 13, 1999.

What's this about the Egyptian president? It said my access is "forbidden."

-- Mara (MaraWayne@aol.com), November 13, 1999.

I posted this link on another thread and I will post it again here.

This document is from earlier this year.

DoD Year 2000 (Y2K) Support to Civil Authorities

-- Pete (pberry1_98@yahoo.com), November 13, 1999.



Who with any intellegence and has done the research cares what the pollyannas think!

-- me (me@santacruz.com), November 13, 1999.

Didn't the US President order martial law in March? or was it April? no, I think it was 990701...no wait, it was 990901...

Amused Regards,
Andy Ray



-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), November 13, 1999.

While there may be some useful information at some of the links provided, at least some of what is there is pure rubbish.

For example, let's address the claim that the Y2K is 'manufactured hoax'. Clearly, Y2K is systemic design flaw. As a programmer, I've been guilty of coding that will not function properly after rollover. But there was no conspiracy, no one held a gun to my head and told me to do it. More often than not, it wasn't even my fault. The code I wrote was just a small piece of a much larger project and often the interface requirements were handed to me. I could code to the specifications given or I could find a new job. Sorry, no evil subplots here. Just lack of foresight combined with business as usual.

One of the articles claims that it is easy to program your computer to function of 1/1/2000. This is true as far as it goes. But like many such argumnets, it is also a moot point. It is easy IF the engineer behind every line of code in your computer (firmware, operating system, and every single application) takes proper date processing into account as the design is unfolding. But that's just not where we are.

For what it's worth, I attribute the majority of Y2K programming issues to newness of the industry. We've only been building software for about 50 years. Just wait until we have 10,000 years of experience under our belts. Then we will have something to boast about.

In short, this site seems contain as much misinformation as information. Keep your critical analysis hat on.

-- Arnie Rimmer (Arnie_Rimmer@usa.net), November 13, 1999.


This website is just a bunch of kooky balogna.

-- Mr. Nugget (catsbutt@umailme.com), November 13, 1999.

Here's the text of the document Pete is referring to, for those who have difficulty with PDF formats:

DEPUTY SECRETARY OF DEFENSE 22FEB 1999 1010 DEFENSE PENTAGON WASHINGTON, DC 20301-1010 MEMORANDUM FOR SECRETARIES OF THE MILITARY DEPARTMENTS CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF UNDER SECRETARIES OF DEFENSE ASSISTANT SECRETARIES OF DEFENSE GENERAL COUNCIL OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE INSPECTOr GENERAL OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE ASSISTANTS TO THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE DIRECTOR, ADMINISTRATION AND MANAGEMENT DIRECTORS OF THE DEFENSE AGENCIES CHIEF, NATIONAL GUARD BUREAU SUBJECT: DoD Year 2000 (Y2K) Support to Civil Authorities References: a. DoD Directive 3025.1, Military Support to Civil Authorities (MSCA) dated 11 93. b. DoD directive 3 025.15, Military Assistance to Civil-Authorities (MACA), dated 15 February 1997

c. DoD Directive 5 100.46, Foreign Disaster Relief, dated 4 December 1975. In order to ensure its operational readiness, the Department is engaged in a sustained and comprehensive program of Y2K systems, network, and operational testing, as well as contingency assessments. The results of these efforts are demonstrating that the Department will remain fully mission capable throughout the millennium change. Similar efforts in the public and private sectors have resulted in great strides in Y2K compliance. Despite these efforts, it is possible that localized system failures will occur, and the possibility for more widespread, systemic problems, both domestically and internationally cannot be ruled out. Accordingly, the Department is taking prudent action to ensure its ability to meet its national security responsibilities and, consistent with those responsibilities, to respond to requests for assistance from civil authorities both domestically and overseas throughout the Y2K date transition period. To that end the Mowing guidance is provided. DoD support to civil authorities will only be provided in accordance with applicable law, DoD directives, and implementing service regulations. The above references provide broad authority, direction and evaluation criteria for DoD responses to civil emergencies and disasters. They have been tested in numerous situations and have proved to be effective. However past DoD responses typically have been applied to localized acute situations, most of which have not been simultaneous. By contrast the Y2K problem, has the potential to involve a large number of events that occur over broad geographic areas, within a short time frame. The broad, near simultaneous, systemic nature of potential problems during the Y2K date transition could lead to two types of stresses on DoD resources and operational readiness: Immediate responses that appear rational from a local perspective, but could collectively undermine the Department's ability to execute operational missions, and Prioritizations, which are made on a basis of requests as they are received, but which may become outdated as higher priority requests are received for support already committed elsewhere. Against this background, it is important to establish a set of criteria that more clearly establishes the Department's focus and response to domestic and foreign requests for military assistance. Accordingly, this memorandum amplifies existing guidance both to utilize and to protect DoD resources for warfighting priorities through the Y2K date transition.

As a basic principle, commanders will not compromise operational readiness in providing support to civil authorities. As directed in reference b, all requests by civil authorities for military assistance shall be evaluated by DoD approval authorities against their impact on DoD's ability to perform its primary national security missions. Within the United States, local commanders may undertake immediate, unilateral, emergency response actions that involve measures to save lives, prevent human suffering, or mitigate great property damage, only when time does not permit approval by higher headquarters. Overseas, immediate response may be undertaken when time is of the essence and humanitarian considerations require action. Except for immediate response as described above, requests for DoD support will be considered only if submitted through the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) or appropriate offices of the Department of State. The National Guard will continue its traditional role of proving military support to civil authorities through their respective State Governors, and will simultaneously ensure its ability to respond to national security requirements. Accordingly, the following priorities will be adhered to in responding to domestic emergencies and to any Department of State requests for foreign DoD assistance throughout the Y2K transition period. For the purpose of this memorandum, the Y2K transition date period is defined to be from 1 September 1999 through 31 March 2000. Priority 1. The Department will retain the capability to take all actions necessary to carry out its essential national security missions. Military units and organizations, to include the Reserve Components, with the assignments indicated below will not divert resources during the Y2K date transition that could compromise operational readiness without the authorization of the Secretary of Defense or his designated representative. a. Direct support to the National Command Authority. b. Conduct of ongoing or imminent military operations. c. Conduct of ongoing or imminent intelligence operations. d. Conduct of nuclear command and control. e. Maintenance of Defense and commercial infrastructures essential to support of the above. Priority 2. Except for immediate response situations, resources in military units and combat support organizations, to include the Reserve Components, assigned to support standing operations plans must be monitored closely particularly if they fall within early execution (first 60 days) of Timed Phased Force and Deployment Data (TPFDD). Responses to requests for consumable or irrecoverable resources in this category must be approved by the Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff (CJCS) or his designated representative. Priority 3. Maintence of domestic public health and safety. Such activities may include: a. Maintenance of emergency services (e.g. fire, ambulance, police, hospitals, and related communications). b. Maintenance of air traffic, rail, port, and ship navigation systems (e.g. Air Traffic Control System). c. Food distribution. d. Support to public information dissemination (press, television and radio). Priority 4. Maintenance of the economy and the Nation's quality of life. These activities include, for example: a. Support to other Federal Agencies. b. Support to local mass transit systems. Adjudication of FEMA and State Department requests involving multiple, systemic, or seemingly equal priority requests for domestic MSCA or Foreign Disaster Assistance (FDA) that could affect the Department's ability to conduct the above operations, will be made by the Secretary of Defense or his designated representative in consultation with: o Secretary of the Army (for domestic requests for MSCA). o The CJCS and appropriate CINC's (for FDA requests). This policy memo is the first in a series designed to ensure the Department's ability to effectively respond to the many and varied demands that may be placed upon it during the Y2K date transition period. I solicit your active and continous support as we prepare to meet these potential challenges. Signed, John J. Hambre DEPUTY SECRETARY OF DEFENSE

-- John Whitley (jwhitley@inforamp.net), November 13, 1999.



Could America be occupied by UN troops and Vehicles? Russian vehicles? Martial law? - PHOTOS- check out website--www.newswatchmagazine.com

Can someone do a link-I'm link impaired.

-- (I Believe (Repent@time is now.com)), November 13, 1999.


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