Whateverybody else here said about it. It truly is enough to make buzzards wretch.

-- (just@amazed.com), November 04, 1999

Answers

Hmmm, buzzards may retch or they may feel wretched. Perhaps they're so wretched thay retch

-- Magnolia (Magnooliaa@yahoo.com), November 04, 1999.

I'm in Orange County (behind the Orange Curtain). Could you be more specific...else we'll think you a troll....save yourself now.

-- Donna (moment@pacbell.net), November 04, 1999.

"Just have your checkbook ready, and enjoy the new millenium!!"

-- Bob Cringely (i_sold_out_@_to_.kosky), November 04, 1999.

Ah-clem, Ah-clem - - - that's "Disconnect" NOT "DISCONTENT"

Night train

-- jes a picky ol footballer (nighttr@in.lane), November 04, 1999.

Well, youz guyz are right. Sorry that I left the impression I was a troll. I'm not. I typed the post quickly because the Dale Way segment of it was coming on, and I was interested in what he had to say. I knew after I hit send I had made a couple of spelling "Disconnects."

I am quite puzzled by how Dale Way got roped into participation in that video. I just got done today reading word-for-word his "Critique of Ed Yourdon's End Game Essay." I read it as having a more cautionary tone than what he said in the video.

-- (just@amazed.com), November 05, 1999.

Interesting to note that Dale Way's answer to Yourdon's End Game essay was released October 28, ... two days after the first airing of the Cringely show.

My guess is that Dale was so badly edited out of context for the propagandistic purposes of the show that he felt it necessary to clarify his real position. Hardly seems like the same person.

I heard someone say they're going to send a can of Spam to their PBS station instead of a check, the next time they have a pledge drive.

-- (fiver2000@yahoo.com), November 05, 1999.

Fiver2000, I think you are right.

I've been in broadcast reporting, so I can somewhat envision this: Dockers Boy (great name, Arewyn!) says to Dale Way on interview set-up, "...and now please don't use the word remediation. Oh yeah, and steer clear of embedded chips. Nobody knows what those are, and we don't have time to go into explanations. We need you to communicate PLAINLY. Remember, you need to *relate* to the audience [yada, yada]."

Dale Way probably said quite a bit that was interesting, but I'm sure it hit the cutting room floor the minute it came out of the camera. Nonetheless how DID such a sap as Dock Boy get Dale Way into this to begin with? I mean, Cringely (and his noxious agenda) strikes me as a pretty easy read upon first sight. How this happened is the story I'd like to know.

Maybe it was the seduction of "face time" for D. Way. It's a real head-scratcher.

-- (just@amazed.com), November 05, 1999.

"How this happened is the story I'd like to know."

Well, PBS usually seems to like to stick to the facts without much spin. But on something this heavy they were undoubtedly "influenced" to make sure the script stays within certain limits, which they were told was in the interest of the "safety of the public" which of course is ironically the opposite of the actual safest approach, which would be to tell the truth. My guess is that government or some powerful corporate forces made a generous donation to PBS on the condition that they be allowed to in essence "write the script." As far as Yuppie Boy goes, he was probably happy to go along with any theme they suggested, as long as the payoff was good. Did you see the nice new shiny red convertible he was driving at the end of the show? Fringe benefits! Our tax dollars hard at work. And people wonder why I want to destroy the system... "sigh."

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), November 05, 1999.